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    it seems the instructions are a little vague on how to revert back to nodo... i was told to go to zune>settings>phone>update, then click resotre. sounds easy but there is no restore option there. when i click on update it says checking for updates, then it says your phone is up to date and it shows my 7720 version... so i then read that you had to place your backup file (the one with the long series of letters and numbers ) into the windows phone update folder (c:/users/username/appdata/local/microsoft/windowsphoneupdate/) which i have done. ***note*** my mango file was in there still as well. tried to see if restore option was there now and no success. so i then tried removing the mango file out of the folder and making sure the backup file was the only thing in the folder, and again no success. it still says your phone is up to date. however i then tried deleting the mango file altogether, but everytime i check for update, zune duplicates that mango file into the windows phone update folder... same on both my wifes phone and my phone. so how the heck do i get back to nodo? my backup was done properly, i have them renamed htc hd7 backup and it is the right file size...
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    make sure you have Zune 4.8 ,
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    i do.... i checked that... i may trying redownloading zune altogether...
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    every thing i find online discribe it exacly like you did , but it works lol.

    thats weired. maybe try Re-instaling it like you said. i just hope you dint corrup your backup file . ( witch im sure you can find on XDA )
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    Did the tool you used to update contained a file named restore.bat? Because you can use it to restore to NoDo.

    In that case you'll have to move your backup folder to C:\PreMangoState\ and then run the restore.bat file
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    it did, i am 99% sure that was the file i renamed "htc hd7 backup" but it was never in a folder c:/premangostate, in fact i dont even have a folder by that name

    i need step by step instructions if anyone can help, thanks
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    well what i think is going on now is that you dont have the proper backup file.

    id look arround or ask , im sure some one has one they can send you.

    i dont think the one for my FOCUS is gona help you,
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    Let me see if I still have my file...if so I will send it to you
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    i appreciate it uptowndc, but i am pretty sure my backup file is good to go. i am not doing something right. i will play around some more when i get home, worse case scenario i will look for another backup file... thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by DizzyMaker View Post
    i appreciate it uptowndc, but i am pretty sure my backup file is good to go. i am not doing something right. i will play around some more when i get home, worse case scenario i will look for another backup file... thanks
    No problem. Good luck.
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    It seems you'll have to make sure Zune sees the backup so you can restore. About the folder I told you about it could have been created depending on what you used to update to mango.

    About using another backup file, I doubt it will do any good. As I believe a backup for a device can only be used on the device it came from.
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    thats the question, how do i get zune to recognize the file? because right now it doesnt see it.... any ideas on trouble shooting? where do i start? because the only idea i have left is to renistall zune.
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    Why are you trying to revert back to NoDo?
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    Well, anyone who is currently running Mango will have to revert back to NoDo before updating to their official carrier version of Mango.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DizzyMaker View Post
    thats the question, how do i get zune to recognize the file? because right now it doesnt see it.... any ideas on trouble shooting? where do i start? because the only idea i have left is to renistall zune.
    Well, if it helps, my folder structure looks like this, first there's the folder you already know:

    C:\Users\<my user>\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update

    Inside it there's a bunch of numbers indicating the device id

    Inside it there are 2 folders: Properties and Restore Point, inside Properties there's an xml file also named properties :D

    Now, inside RestorePoint there's a file named ActiveId.dat and another folder with a bunch of numbers and letters.

    Again, inside the new folder with a bunch of numbers and letters there's a folder named Data, and finally inside that folder there's the backup.

    The backup it's actually a series of small files starting with Data.0.dat and going up.

    That should be the folder structure you need for Zune to see the backup, in my case that's how Zune 4.7 sees it.

    Finally, and this is important, I believe you need the windows phone support tool installed and Zune 4.7 (not 4.8) to see the backup properly (if your folder structure is like mine) because now that I have updated to Zune 4.8 it doesn't see the backup I made, when Zune 4.7 could see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reflexx View Post
    Well, anyone who is currently running Mango will have to revert back to NoDo before updating to their official carrier version of Mango.
    Not according to @winphonesupport and @zunesupport

    Updating to Official Mango from 7720 RTM | Windows Phone Forums
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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjaap View Post
    Not according to @winphonesupport and @zunesupport

    Updating to Official Mango from 7720 RTM | Windows Phone Forums
    pretty sure i am going to have to go back to nodo to manufacture release of mango... for example, there was a radio update on my phone (htc hd7) that isnt updated with this version of mango, and zune doesnt tell me there is an update either... i was under the impression for those of us who have the rtm leaked mango, we wont be getting future updates. therefore we would have to revert back to nodo once the official relase comes out this october...

    on the topic, i am currentyl running zune 4.8 because thats what i was told i would need. so how do i go back to 4.7 , just to see if it recognizes the file...

    what version of zune that is needed to restore nodo, probably depends on what tool that was used to install mango... i know i needed zune beta to install mango on my devise
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    Quote Originally Posted by X7or360 View Post
    Well, if it helps, my folder structure looks like this, first there's the folder you already know:

    C:\Users\<my user>\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update

    Inside it there's a bunch of numbers indicating the device id

    Inside it there are 2 folders: Properties and Restore Point, inside Properties there's an xml file also named properties :D

    Now, inside RestorePoint there's a file named ActiveId.dat and another folder with a bunch of numbers and letters.

    Again, inside the new folder with a bunch of numbers and letters there's a folder named Data, and finally inside that folder there's the backup.

    The backup it's actually a series of small files starting with Data.0.dat and going up.

    That should be the folder structure you need for Zune to see the backup, in my case that's how Zune 4.7 sees it.

    Finally, and this is important, I believe you need the windows phone support tool installed and Zune 4.7 (not 4.8) to see the backup properly (if your folder structure is like mine) because now that I have updated to Zune 4.8 it doesn't see the backup I made, when Zune 4.7 could see it.
    this is exactly how mine is structured too, so that being said, maybe i need zune 4.7 to get it to see my backup
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    Quote Originally Posted by DizzyMaker View Post
    pretty sure i am going to have to go back to nodo to manufacture release of mango... for example, there was a radio update on my phone (htc hd7) that isnt updated with this version of mango, and zune doesnt tell me there is an update either... i was under the impression for those of us who have the rtm leaked mango, we wont be getting future updates. therefore we would have to revert back to nodo once the official relase comes out this october...
    Gotcha! Better safe than sorry. I guess I'll cross that bridge when I get there :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DizzyMaker View Post
    this is exactly how mine is structured too, so that being said, maybe i need zune 4.7 to get it to see my backup
    Yes, in my case I had Zune 4.7 installed and also windows phone support tool (because I had an app that could create backups when I wanted and it needed that tool) so, at least it seems you need Zune 4.7, if it doesn't see the backup, try installing the support tool.

    You can download zune 4.7 from here:

    Download Details - Microsoft Download Center - Zune Software 4.7

    And the support tool for 32 bit systems:

    http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...rtTool-x86.msi

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    http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...Tool-amd64.msi
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    I was running mango beta for the past month and went back to nodo last night with the expectation that mango will get an official release in the next week.

    Prior to upgrading to mango, i thought nodo ran pretty well. After using mango for a month, i can't believe how sluggish nodo feels. i'm not sure i'm gonna be able to wait a week for mango to release. i may have to switch back to mango beta for the time being.
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    sweet thanks, crossing my fingers and hope this works!!!
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    What reason do you think that Mango will be available in a week? I haven't really seen anything indicating that. I'm actually expecting it to happen some time in November.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reflexx View Post
    What reason do you think that Mango will be available in a week? I haven't really seen anything indicating that. I'm actually expecting it to happen some time in November.
    Apparently rtm mango builds have already been sent to the handset makers

    Microsoft's marketing chief: It's now up to our OEMs to launch Mango | wpcentral | Windows Phone News, Forums, and Reviews

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    HTC has a mango event planned for Sept 1st.

    HTC September 1st Event to focus on Mango? | wpcentral | Windows Phone News, Forums, and Reviews

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    Just looking at the history of the carriers... I think they're going to sit on it for a while.

    I do believe that new devices with Mango will be coming out fairly soon. But the update? That may take a while.
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