- 11-06-2011, 01:15 AM #1
- 11-06-2011, 10:04 AM #3
I can give you a devil's advocate position on why iOS/Android is better then WP7. The primary reason iOS is better is with folders you can fit a TON of app shortcuts on the first page of the homescreen. With WP7 you can only fit several app shortcuts on the first page, the rest you have to swipe down or go to the app list. It's going to be hard to convince people why they should accept less app shortcuts on the first view.
- 11-06-2011, 10:47 AM #4
Unless you know what apps are in the folders its very very hard to determine what the apps actually are. The icon is about 3mm x 3mm with no description. May be a bit clearer on retina displays though.
- 11-06-2011, 10:48 AM #5
In turn I say that live tiles beat a static icon or collection of icons in a folder in ios/android any day. My BBC News Mobile and USA Today tiles show me the latest headlines via text and images and help me decide if I need to go into the application itself. Jumbling all those static icons together into one just means more work to get to them.
PS poll is useless, personally not sure why anyone is happy with WP7 being in second place, aim to be the best or nothing at all.
- 11-06-2011, 10:54 AM #6
A caveat though is if you actually prefer the Metro UI compared to iOS/Android that's reasonable, but I expect 95% of current smartphone users to be put off from it. It's just too radically different from their rows of icons.
- 11-06-2011, 11:39 AM #8
And I struggle to see how a live tile with pertinent information on it could possibly give an "inferior" UX to a static icon. Stacking tons of stacic icons together in a folder would be even worse than a single one, having to scan through all of them to find the one you want. And if you have tons of them as you suggest then its no better than a start screen of non-live tiles, you're still going to be swiping to get to the object you want.
As for current iphone/android users being put off" by WP7, I think that speaks more to people's tendency to be conformist rather than to any deficiencies in the WP7 platform. Why so many minds think alike - CNN.com
- 11-06-2011, 11:49 AM #9
#2 - I've seen people create a dozen folders to organize their icons on the iOS home screen. Somehow they are not complaining about their UX there.
#3 - Yes people are conformist and I fail to see how Microsoft/Nokia/HTC can break that. A family of 4 goes into Verizon Wireless and ends up coming out with iPhones or Galaxy SII/Nexus phones. Microsoft will be lucky if even 5% of smartphones sold in this quarter are WP7. To me it's a stillborn platform.
- 11-06-2011, 11:53 AM #10
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- 11-06-2011, 11:55 AM #11
I think the real headline is that Windows Phone is generally accepted to be one of the top 3. People have given up on Blackberry. I'd say MS needs to start pushing Chasis 2 so it is ready for Blackberry converts.
- 11-06-2011, 11:56 AM #12
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- 11-06-2011, 12:16 PM #14
- 11-06-2011, 12:48 PM #15
According to Market Share
#3 Blackberry ( So Far)
I like the way WP7 is going and I see a Future to it, I have the SGS2 and thinking for switching. As for any people talking about hardware, it only needs a certain amount of hardware to improve performance, a 1.5 single core processor, can run as smooth as a 1.5ghz dual core processor, or even better, Software matters too, and Windows did an Excellent job with theirs, making performance their number 1 priority, the browser, is the best I have seen, and dont get me wrong IOS Browser is good. Android Browser on the other hand is sluggish at times. Now there are more things that Windows needs to do to improve the OS, but Im happy to see they way they are going, I might switch soon, if we get any more WP7 options on T-mobile, Right now the Radar is ok, but I want more storage, or at least Expandable Storage.
- 11-06-2011, 12:52 PM #16
I don't see it that way and the unique style of the Metro UI is what makes WP7 attractive to me and I have no inclination to change it into an ios clone in any way. If everyone else wants to be a clone and follow the crowd that's fine for them but that doesn't make WP7 any less of a good, uniquely different platform.
- 11-06-2011, 09:45 PM #18
The argument would be that hundreds of millions of people using iOS/Android have no UX issues with rows of pretty icons. Sure you can make the case for the WP7 live tiles/typography/integrated hubs. The social network timeline is a wonderful achievement in software engineering alone. My initial motivation for wanting to go to WP7 is I don't want to be one of the iClones. But the more I research the platform, the UI, the workflows the more I fell in love with.
For now I'm holding off on the Focus S or Focus Flash, waiting to see what will be unveiled in NYC this week. I need to see more.
- 11-06-2011, 09:52 PM #19
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- 11-06-2011, 11:04 PM #21
Microsoft has the ability to come out on top but they have to pull from their strong markets business and gaming.
WP make it business friendly imagine WP + Active Directory support. Domain sign on BAM all your corp contacts, e-mail, apps are all setup for you.
Gaming put out more waypoints, make a Halo Gears and Forza game and BAM get those Live gamers to switch over.
Keep improving services Zune and Skype
It will take a couple of years but come on it can for SURE beat Android and Blackberry iOS can be done but needs more time.
- 11-06-2011, 11:07 PM #22
You also have to consider Windows 8 unified platform. Once businesses start using Windows 8 and people learn to utilize Live Tiles etc people will jump over to the Windows phone platform.
I say 3 - 5 years focus on beating Blackberry then Android
- 11-06-2011, 11:30 PM #24
- 11-06-2011, 11:32 PM #25
Heh you dont need folders etc more folders becomes a bigger mess i realized this.
1st screen live tiles all notifications
2nd screen all apps you can easily search apps or search them by alaphetical order
What MS should do is allow users to group apps in the second screen while leaving the live tile screen alone that way people can get their notifications alot easier.
3 touch process greater than going through folders to find something