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  1. TheWeeBear's Avatar
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    It was only a matter of time before they abandoned it for future mobiles.

    Exclusive: Adobe ceases development on mobile browser Flash, refocuses efforts on HTML5 | ZDNet

    Just Sharing. :)

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    Yeah this isn't much of a kill-joy. Most of the videos I attempt to watch on my Focus work. Even on a bad day I'm Batting 300. I guess it'll suck for tablet users but I've never liked the idea of a tablet anyway. Just not for me.

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    No great loss I agree d03jke.

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    About time. Kudos to both Apple and Microsoft for sticking to their guns and helping bang the nails into the coffin of mobile flash - a lousy solution to a problem that didn't even need to exist.
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    It will NOT be missed :P
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    ****ty job adobe. Glad to see current phones will still be supported.

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    Wow who could have guessed that that was going to happen... ijs ;)

    No big loss for me here.
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    Flash loyalists better stock up on some old Android devices because soon that's the only place you'll see flash.
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    Lol soon as in 10 years from now. Non Android phones better find the two html5 web pages that are actually worth visiting.
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    Yeah, flash was awesome up till 5-10 years ago. People loved it. Designers loved what they could do with websites. I would say way over 80% of web sites use flash. In the end just about every web site has flash adds. It is an awesome tool for doing interactive websites. Now that something new has been developed its suddenly a resource hog pile of junk that should have never been used???? I am pretty sure just about everyone has a dual or quad core in their computers so I think some resources are free. A little more support from developers and adobe could have easily made it better for the mobile market. I guess not many people remember the internet before flash. It was pretty boring.

    No reason not to move on but I always hate the backlash on existing tech making it out to be the devil incarnate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by power5 View Post
    Yeah, flash was awesome up till 5-10 years ago. People loved it. Designers loved what they could do with websites. I would say way over 80% of web sites use flash. In the end just about every web site has flash adds. It is an awesome tool for doing interactive websites. Now that something new has been developed its suddenly a resource hog pile of junk that should have never been used???? I am pretty sure just about everyone has a dual or quad core in their computers so I think some resources are free. A little more support from developers and adobe could have easily made it better for the mobile market. I guess not many people remember the internet before flash. It was pretty boring.

    No reason not to move on but I always hate the backlash on existing tech making it out to be the devil incarnate.
    Technology moved ahead, got lighter, faster, more secure and more efficient. Adobe didn't keep up. That's the reason for the backlash. I'm more worried about the 750 people at Adobe that will lose their job. However, that's the price you pay when you become complacent.
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    The mobile revolution has only been happening for 4 years. Go ask microsoft how long they have been working on windows phone. Way more than 4 years I would bet. Adobe is just a bit behind just like WP. They are catching up though, and its just too bad they did not get to finish I guess.
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    I don't really have a dog in this race, as this isn't the sort of thing that I tend to get worked up about, but.... I think it's interesting how basically no one cared about HTML5 until the big browser makers decided to insist that we all love it and Flash sucks. I suspect this has as much to do with browser marketshare as anything else.
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    Adobe was really under a lot of pressure because of the mobile market boom. Bottom line is they had a hard time getting Flash to NOT use up a lot of battery and resources.

    Let's not even bring up the security vulnerabilities that come along with Flash, eh?
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    My first smartphone was the iPhone 3G, I've had the iPhone 4 since, still have an iPad, and have a WP7 phone. I can count the number of sites I've had problems with because of flash in all that time on the fingers of one hand. If there wasn't an app for it, or a mobile optimised version of their site, I went elsewhere - business lost because of a reliance on a clunky software engine.

    As D5 said, no big loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by power5 View Post
    The mobile revolution has only been happening for 4 years. Go ask microsoft how long they have been working on windows phone. Way more than 4 years I would bet. Adobe is just a bit behind just like WP. They are catching up though, and its just too bad they did not get to finish I guess.
    While Microsoft has been in the mobile market for a long long time, WP7 is less than four years old. WP7 was still in the early stages right before the original KIN hit the market. Including development time, I would guess WP7 took MS no more than 3 years. But that's besides the point.

    Adobe isn't just a bit behind. The problem with Flash is that it needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. In fact, if we were to make a comparison, I'd say Flash is more like WinMo than WP7. Microsoft (rightfully) decided to put WinMo to rest because WinMo is too archaic for today's computing needs. MS was, at best, only applying patches to WinMo instead of fixing it. That is exactly what Adobe is currently doing with Flash. Everything Adobe does is only making Flash slightly better but still keeping it from being a true competitor in the mobile market. It's time for them to try a new approach before the HTML5 conversion is complete.
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    Adobe confirms Flash Player is dead for mobile devices -- Engadget

    "We heard the talk and now here's the confirmation: Flash Player for mobile devices is officially dead. Adobe is reaffirming its commitment to "aggressively contribute" to HTML5, a platform with broader support and capabilities than Flash was ever able to deliver. Adobe will of course also be pushing developers to work in its AIR platform for a more native experience, and the company will continue to work on Flash Player for desktop operating systems, but one can't help but see the platform as a whole standing on fairly shaky footing at this point. "


    Ive complained about not having Flash since moving from Android to WP7 so this seems as good news really in the long run. I think more sites or at least mobile sites will soon or eventually have HTML5, which WP7 can support!
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    Yeah mentioned in the Bye Bye Adobe Flash thread below DaveGx. :)

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    Flash isn't going anywhere anytime soon. HTML5 isn't even projected to be complete until like 2022. Flash is much more powerful than the current subset and we will see it run side by side for some time.
    Unfortunately Flash is officially dead for mobile platforms now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Engadget
    We heard the talk and now here's the confirmation: Flash Player for mobile devices is officially dead. Adobe is reaffirming its commitment to "aggressively contribute" to HTML5, a platform with broader support and capabilities than Flash was ever able to deliver. Adobe will of course also be pushing developers to work in its AIR platform for a more native experience, and the company will continue to work on Flash Player for desktop operating systems, but one can't help but see the platform as a whole standing on fairly shaky footing at this point.
    Source: Developers (Adobe Featured Blogs)

    Guess it's good that M$ didn't waste time and money to make mobile IE9 Flash-compatible.

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    No it didn't.
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    It doesn't hurt my feelings that we won't have flash. I barely used it on my droid so I don't miss that capability at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desmonium View Post
    Unfortunately Flash is officially dead for mobile platforms now.



    Source: Developers (Adobe Featured Blogs)

    Guess it's good that M$ didn't waste time and money to make mobile IE9 Flash-compatible.

    =P
    Not entirely true. Blackberry will continue to support Flash, because they do not rely on Adobe for the mobile plugin. They do their own support from the source code. Android can do the same. This just means Adobe wont do the work anymore. Although I highly doubt Android will go from a mobile Plugin to core OS support (Like Blackberry Playbook uses). Adobe will still provide bug and security fixes too. This is also the reason Flash works much better of Blackberry's tablet than Android devices.

    The bad part about WP not supporting Flash and only HTML5 is how poorly HTML5 is actually supported in EI9. While streaming video or basic tasks may work excellent, fact is they are quite below the competition for overall compatibility. Check HTML5test.com for example.
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    Why does nobody care about this? I look at plenty of websites that host videos which require flash player. And therefore I never get to see the videos ??!!? :(
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    flash worked perfectly on my HTC incredible s, and I used it a lot. I definitely do miss flash on my phone
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    I do wish I could see Flash videos.

    But while HTML5 isn't up to snuff yet in terms of functionality, it is good for video. And more sites will move towards it. So the problem of not being able to see videos will lessen with time.
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