View Poll Results: Don't you think the WP UI overuses/underuses space too often?
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Yes, WP needs to be tightened up and refined.
No, the UI is exactly how it should look.
- 01-23-2012, 12:46 AM #1
The major issues I have with Windows Phone besides the obvious detriments that come with being a "new kid on the block" is that Windows Phone's UI tends to use the space on the screen in a yet-to-be-optimized manner.
-The long, unused space under the arrow on the home screen seems like a waste of potential design choices.
-The titles of every screen seem too large, too overzoomed to make sense if you were emulating a Metro station's signs.
-Messaging notifications have a lot of space above the message and next to the time that is ALWAYS empty. Why not put the person's name up there next to the time and have the message scroll by under like a stock ticker (or not if you need privacy.)
-Transition screens such as the "Send from" screen have very small text compared to the rest of the vast screen space, again not doing justice to the idea of a Metro station sign.
-Live Tiles, considering how BIG they ALL are, could definitely be more informative. Perhaps less informative ones could be made smaller? Custom sized like widgets?
-The media playback buttons when you play a video are HUGE. WHY?
-Context buttons at the bottom of every screen are too closely spaced together and you get the feeling more buttons should be added.
-Artist/Album/Track lists in the Zune section have WAY too big a font.
-The IE9 toolbar is kinda wide for the little information it shows. I like that its at the bottom, but does it have to be so big?
There's probably more I missed, but does anybody get the same feeling I do? I know this is something that can be tightened up over time, but these are my thoughts so far.
Last edited by Calidude; 01-23-2012 at 12:54 AM.
- 01-23-2012, 02:18 AM #2
IMO, MS knows it has to changes the UI ever so slightly. the 800x480's ~16:9.5 ratio is going out, and moving forward, 16:9 is the (sadly) standard (well, all except Apple, whom uses a massive 16:11 ratio on the iPhone/iPod touch - which I like), so the GUI will need to be tweaked (or MS has to move to softkeys...), and hopefully, that tweaking will bring along other UI changes, too.
- 01-23-2012, 04:00 AM #3
I think you need a third option - that in some cases more use could be made of space, but to overdo it would make the UI far too "busy" and take away from what makes it different.
For example - a few toggle switches for wifi, data etc. underneath the start screen arrow a la the charms on Windows 8? Yes please - would be a very useful addition and not detrimental to the style. But I think e.g. live tiles have to stay how they are. Smaller, and they just become icons and the larger ones effectively become widgets, and the look is broken - you then effectively have a mishmash like Android and it's awful, inconsistent widget/icon soup.
- 01-23-2012, 07:40 AM #5
- 01-23-2012, 08:16 AM #7
Sounds to me like MS left room for features in a future updates. but I like the clean look.. If they fill that space I think it would be to "clutter"
I agree for keyboard in landscape doh.. That should take up the screen
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- 01-23-2012, 08:49 AM #8
i personally love the way it looks... although the only two things i would change would be a full keyboard in ls, and add some toggle switches under the arrow, make so the slide out when not using them , but when you touch the area the slide back in, just like the signal and battery up top... that would be perfect!
01-23-2012, 09:40 AM #9-The titles of every screen seem too large, too overzoomed to make sense if you were emulating a Metro station's signs.-Messaging notifications have a lot of space above the message and next to the time that is ALWAYS empty. Why not put the person's name up there next to the time and have the message scroll by under like a stock ticker (or not if you need privacy.)-Live Tiles, considering how BIG they ALL are, could definitely be more informative. Perhaps less informative ones could be made smaller? Custom sized like widgets?-The media playback buttons when you play a video are HUGE. WHY?-Artist/Album/Track lists in the Zune section have WAY too big a font.
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01-23-2012, 01:25 PM #16
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I really like the design. We have clarity without clutter.
I think a thing to keep in mind is that the design needs to work on a variety of screen sizes. So what may seem like a lot of space on large screens may not seem like that much space on smaller screens.
In design, you learn that space is important. It doesn't always need to be filled. Sometimes the best use of space is to just leave it as space.
With that said, I'm sure there are going to be small tweaks here and there as time goes on. There's always going to be the challenge of form vs function. We want it attractive, but we also want to cram in as much information as we can. And those two things are hard to gel together.
- 01-23-2012, 01:35 PM #18
I do think some space is wasted, but not much. The whole point of WP7 is minimalism and putting a bunch of toggles and icons in the unused space would just make it look cluttered.
I do agree the tiles should take up more of the screen and the arrow should be gone. I think at this point its almost common sense to swipe right to get to your app list. In fact, I'd prefer it they just got rid of the arrow and app list altogether and make the app list a tile, one that can't be deleted.
- 01-23-2012, 02:39 PM #22
The UI does waste a lot of screen real estate on white/blank space. Tiles really don't have to be that big, and there should be a way to group apps on the Start Screen (sorry!), the app list needs some work. Text runs off the screen with no way to see what things really are... The header in many apps and hubs serves no purpose but to waste space. I'd rather they just had a splash screen or something, personally.
Additionally, Tile sizes would probably be fine if the OS supported higher DPI displays and there were devices using those displays out. Becuase they aren't so startlingly big on small devices like the Focus Flash (in fact the UI actually looks rather pleasant at that screen size, provided the screen is of a decent type - which SAMOLED is), but they are heinous on bigger devices like the HD7 (borderline) and Titan (showstopping).
So, if the Titan had a 720p Display the Tiles could potentially not be so huge (same for Focus/HD7/etc. if they had qHD displays) and it would also allow for more text to be visible in things like Zune and the app list - not to mention the quality improvement on media viewing (pictures and video) which would come as a side-product of a higher DPI.
Sorry, but text running off the screen like that coupled with the lack of landscape support is beyond sloppy.
And I have several albums where this issue is in full effect. It makes getting to tracks a total PITA. You either have to remember the track number, it's placement in the list, or simply play one and scan through them until you find the one you need. None of that should be necessary. Should be able to flip to landscape and see what you want.
And how about a setting to control text size? Wouldn't that be brilliantly innovative in 2012?
- 01-23-2012, 02:52 PM #23
Based on your posts, you don't appear too receptive of Metro in general. Have you considered other OSs that better suit your needs?
- 01-23-2012, 03:00 PM #24
I love the homescreen just like is. The only place I would do changes is in the Zune music player to bring it more in line with how the ZuneHD was.
But the homescreen is perfect. If they removed the slide over button and assume you just knew you could slide over and filled the whole screen with squares it just would look awful and boring. Even Windows 8 doesn't allow the tiles to use every inch of the screen, thats the beauty of Metro. Its thoughtful, because there is a very small line between simple and having the look that you didn't bother to design at all.