- 01-27-2012, 05:21 PM #1
My wife and I went to T-Mo today so that I could show her the Lumia 710. I had been to a different T-Mo store last week to see it for myself. While speaking with the T-Mo rep today I told him I was not interested in getting a 2-yr contract. I want to buy the phone outright and go on a month-to-month plan. He said that's fine but I would lose access to roaming on other non-T-Mo towers. That I would only have access to T-Mo towers, not to any other towers that T-Mo has roaming agreements with. Is this true? I have never heard of that before.
He said that the only way I could get access on non-T-Mo towers is by going with a contract on T-mo. My BS meter shot up to 100% when he told me that. Am I right and he's wrong?
- 01-27-2012, 05:49 PM #3
that makes no sens! .. 50% BS lol,
strait from the T-mobile site:
Can I roam with my account?
T-Mobile HotSpot Unlimited National Annual and Month to Month customers can roam in all international and domestic roaming locations. DayPass, Pay as You Go, Prepaid, and Portable Electronics rate plans have access to thousands of locations on the T-Mobile HotSpot Network, but cannot be used at roaming locations.
basically as long as you have a MONTH TO MONTH your ok if you have day pass or pre-paid then it looks like they block you. but it doesn't make sens , its the FIRST time i hear a RTM claim that .
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- 01-27-2012, 06:40 PM #4
I called the number that Winning Guy posted. I spoke with a rep named Thomas who was very nice and helpful. He confirmed that I definitely can roam to other towers while off-contract with T-Mo.
Also, Thomas offered me a great deal of $50 flat per month for unlimited minutes, unlimited text, and 2GB data. He said the $50 includes all regulatory fees and taxes. Wow!
Also to the also, the T-Mo guy at the store here in town said I could buy the Lumia 710 for $350. Thomas over the phone said I could buy it for $299.
I think it's time to say g'bye to my wife's Palm Pixi on Sprint. Hello T-Mobile.
- 01-27-2012, 06:41 PM #5
I think because if they sell you a normal postpaid plan you "need" to sign a two year contract. I don't know if that's true or not, but that's what it seems.
So if you wanted to go non-contract, then what he was referring to was Monthly4G which is their prepaid service, which is why he said no roaming.
Now if you already have an account with T-Mobile and are out of contract, I don't see any reason why they couldn't sell you a device outright, but who knows.
- 01-27-2012, 06:41 PM #6
Oh, and thanks to both of you, Winning and Self. I appreciate your inputs.
My BS meter is usually correct. And in this instance it was very, very correct. Thanks for the web site quote, Self.
- 01-27-2012, 06:47 PM #9
And I think the Lumia 710 was $299 online, maybe it's an online/phone only price.
- 01-27-2012, 06:50 PM #10
- 01-27-2012, 07:53 PM #12
Ok, here's the deal. I just finished the call with T-Mobile.
The $50 plan is a 4G plan. However, it is not the 2GB plan, it is the 100MB plan. I spoke with Tully, the T-Mo rep on the phone, and he said that the 4G data is throttled to about 2-5Mbps once you reach 100MB of data usage. So, you still have data at fairly good speeds...just not the full bandwidth of 4G. Not a big deal. In fact, he told me he has that very plan and can still stream Netflix even after he's being throttled.
The $50 plan is indeed for one line only. It is not a 2-line plan and it is not a 2-yr contract. It is month-to-month. Which is exactly what I wanted. I have sworn off contracts. I never want to do one ever again and I made Tully, who was a very nice and helpful guy, swear to me that the $50 plan is not a 2-yr contract deal.
Also, I mentioned this before, the $50 plan includes all regulatory fees and taxes. It's a flat $50 per month for unlimited minutes, unlimited text, and 4G speeds up to 100MB, then it's throttled to 2-5Mbps until the month is finished. Period.
What a deal.
I ordered a new Lumia 710 for $299 plus tax, free shipping, directly from Tully at T-Mobile. (T-Mo store wanted to charge $350 plus tax.) It includes the SIM kit. Once I get the phone I'll call a phone number, port my wife's Sprint number over, and sign her up on the $50 plan.
Edit: Oh, one drawback with buying an off-contract phone from T-Mo: no white phones are available. Only black.
- 01-27-2012, 08:19 PM #13
Monthly4G Prepaid Plans | Prepaid Data Plans | T-Mobile
And I always though it was throttled to EDGE, but if they throttle to 2-5Mbps then that's pretty good.
- 01-27-2012, 08:30 PM #14
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01-28-2012, 12:57 AM #16
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The prepaid plan you are describing is T-Mobile's $50 Monthly 4G plan, which doesn't have a contract and does include everything you said. It really is a great deal, especially if you can afford to buy for device outright. You pay for your "discounted" contract phones through your monthly payments.
In my opinion, T-Mobile's Monthly 4G plans are by far the best prepaid plans from any of the US major carriers. I'm thinking about just paying my $200 ETF to switch to Monthly 4G just for the savings alone.
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- 01-28-2012, 01:35 AM #17
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- 01-28-2012, 04:01 AM #20
Since most devices are either triband or quadband 3G devices, what usually happens is if a device is made for AT&T, it'll have 850/1900/2100 or like the iPhone, 850/900/1900/2100. As a result, these devices are incompatible with T-Mobile's 3G.
See, if T-Mobile had 850 or 1900 or 2100 for their 3G, we'd be able to use the iPhone, Lumia 900, HTC Titan series, and many other phones on their 3G network, but since they use AWS (1700/2100) we're stuck with either a good device and only EDGE (2G) on T-Mobile or whatever devices are specifically designed for T-Mobile and have those 1700/2100 3G frequencies.
This is why I'm saying T-Mobile needs to get manufacturers to make high end devices for them, but they haven't been doing that. All they've gotten is the Lumia 710 and HTC Radar. No iPhone 4S, no Galaxy Nexus, no Lumia 900, no HTC Titan II. It really disappoints me, and that's why I've left for the time being.
- 01-28-2012, 07:42 AM #21
As for data speeds after that 100 mb....trust me on this....you are not going to be able to stream netflix or let alone anything on youtube.
I can't tell you how many times I had customers come into the store complaining about how they can't even get onto Facebook or if they do.....it takes forever....and I as soon as I get into their account and notice they have been throttle back.....they complain like crazy.
I'm in Chicago and we have great speeds here and being throttled back here....its slow. At times it would seem even slower than EDGE.
Good luck though. If it doesn't work out at 100mb you could go up $10 more a month and get 2gig plan.
- 01-28-2012, 08:24 AM #22
T-Mobile 2G isn't bad. If you are just looking at news sites, it's fine. I switched from AT&T to T-Mobile for a while when I had my Treo Pro and the 2G worked ok.
Pentaband phones, like my Nokia N8, works on either AT&T or T-Mobile for 3G.
- 01-28-2012, 10:02 AM #23
I am in a relatively poor reception area with AT&T, so I usually get about 2.5 mbps DL speeds.
I use WiFi a decent amount, both at work and at home, and don't do any long-video streaming such as Netflix.
My typical monthly data usage is about 2.1 GBs.
I do not know how long my sanity would last using the above described data plan.
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- 01-28-2012, 10:30 AM #24
American 710 prospective buyers, you are getting ripped off by tmo! Rogers in Canada will be selling the 710 for $255 off contract, and they will carrier unlock it for you in store for an additional $30 = $285 unlocked and off-contract!
Also, rumor is Rogers will be getting ALL the colors!
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- 01-28-2012, 04:24 PM #25