- 02-22-2012, 08:08 PM #1
I love my damn phone. I've defended my phone with my near-disrespectful debating skills to the gritty death against android and iOS users countless times on a daily basis, (I refrain from arguing online since its useless.) However, despite constantly swaying the votes and opinions towards pro-WP7; even I have some gripes that I seriously need addresses right away. For some reason, even my a few of my fellow WP7 people here criticize my arguments for some reason. The biggest example comes from those who don't understand why my need for a device with more than 16GB of storage is enough. Guys, just because you don't listen to music, or record videos, or take photos as much as some of us, does not mean that we're crying and whining when we complain. We really need the storage space. I've got 56GBs of music on my laptops hard drive which I've kept meticulously organized and listen to ALL THE TIME. I feel that WP7 and its awesome music player and cool Zune software are a fit for me but when I only have 16 GBs to work with and have to constantly play the "Survivor" sacrifice game with my albums, it gets really really annoying. Where do I need to go to petition for bigger storage spaces? I can't do this 16GB crap any longer. And no I wont go to iOS. Ive already got an iPad 2 but its music player and my iTunes software is crap compared to my phone and Zune. As soon as this storage issue is solved, I will be in cellular Nirvana, which after using an iPhone, Blackberry, Palm, and finally HD7, I've still yet to achieve
- 02-22-2012, 08:14 PM #2
I agree with you. You can complain here no problem, I myself do it a lot. No one has being banned from complaining with their real problems, of course someone will argue against it, this is why this are discussion boards.
Also, use paragraphs, wall of text are pretty difficult to read, specially while on the phone.
- 02-22-2012, 09:42 PM #6
Well here is a hint that can help. Is alot of your music at 320kbps? You can have Zune auto convert it down to 128kpbs when you sync it to your phone. That will allow you to fit more music on your phone.
Hopefully Nokia will come with 64GB soon, but I understand their current focus and for most 16GB is more than enough.
I think the problem is expecting too much and complaing about the same thing over and over. Especially when you used by outsiders to critcisize WP7. So yes we become defensive.
You have to realize that anything above 32GB+ Music collection is out of the norm. And you cann't listen to that in a week, let alone a day.
02-22-2012, 10:55 PM #7
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MS needs to give us more storage on Skydrive for music, and then make said music accessible via Zune.
In the meantime, might I suggest putting all of your music on Google Music (20,000 songs stored for free) and then install the Gooroovster app from the Marketplace. The app syncs with Google Music and voila! All of your music at your fingertips!
If you have moral issues with using a Google service, just think it's hopefully only temporary until MS gets us a better solution. Put your pride away and enjoy your music. :)
02-22-2012, 11:33 PM #8
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you are correct we need more storage mooooooooore but we will have to wait for some reason or another
try here maybe
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- 02-23-2012, 07:54 AM #11
The only argument I cringe everytime someone it brings up is when ppl defend WP7 by saying its still too new. That may very well apply to software, but not hardware. If I started a football team this year, of course we wouldnt have any experience against the other teams, but I wouldnt be giving them leather helmets either you know?
- 02-23-2012, 08:00 AM #12
Most of my WP "issues" are nitpicks - I have a phone that does most things I want, and does them well most of the time. But I'd be lying if I didn't say I've had more nitpicks - and more nitpicks about critical stuff - with WP than I have with iOS. The (lack of) backup/restore issue needs sorting ASAP, lack of wifi sync and disparity of function between Mac and PC software needs sorting, the games situation is still poor (Splinter Cell good, fact that a 1-2 year old iOS port is pretty much the ONLY 3D third-person shooter on the whole system and is arguably the most technically advanced game is laughably bad), and core app sync needs to be improved. Six or seven times this week I've checked my mail, then checked it seconds later and messages that should have appeared the first time suddenly download the second time. Why do I check it seconds later? Because I don't trust the mail app anymore.
But I'm most disappointed by the flat out unreliability of my Lumia. It shuts down occasionally. It won't start up again occasionally. It needs soft resets occasionally. The battery life can be great one day, awful the next. The camera is utterly schizophrenic in performance and in video mode is downright useless on occasion. There are strange omissions in functionality - a phone with great music features but no equalizer controls, and a phone widely available off contract still with no tethering option.
Despite all this, I still like my phone and like the OS. But I'm getting bored of "just wait until...". Stuff needs fixing faster, and really things need to be less buggy to start with. And just tell us, MS, for definite, what phones will upgrade to WP8. I don't care what people on forums expect to be the case, or that it'd be "crazy" for MS not to do this, or "crazy" for Nokia to launch handsets with built-in obsolescence within 6 months of launch. I want it from the horse's mouth - because the longer nothing is said, the more inclined I am to believe that it is because they know there are some people who won't be happy with what they hear.
- 02-23-2012, 08:04 AM #13
- 02-23-2012, 09:00 AM #14
Storage sizes on WP is something I've never been able to figure out. I know the price of memory fluctuates quite a bit, and it's not as cheap at the moment as it used to be. But there are a lot of 8GB phones out there. Why not stick £20 on the handset price and give it twice the amount of storage?
Likewise 16GB phones. Just charge a (relatively) small amount more and double the memory. I'm pretty sure no-one would complain about a small cost increase to buy the phone with the trade-off being a really useable amount of memory.
One thing that I really like about WP & the Zune software is that Zune is pretty good at organizing videos. I convert all my DVDs to MP4s to play in Media Centre and stream to my Xbox. I like that Zune lets me organise these well (adding all the info that I want) and I can sync them with my phone to watch when I'm out (also works great with Media Centre recorded TV!). But I have 8GB in my Omnia 7. So, after the modest amount of albums I have on my phone, and pictures, I get room for a couple of TV shows, or one decent-length movie.
That's pretty rubbish really. It seems such a waste given that, IMO at least, I think WP/Zune is a great media device. It's just crippled by low storage amounts. And the nuts part about it is that it needn't be. Just charge a bit more for the handsets, and add more storage!
- 02-23-2012, 10:30 AM #15
There is more than the cost of memory to account for. Changeover on assembly lines. Different packaging. Labeling. Multiple SKUs. I don't need more than 16GB, but to quiet those that do, each OEM should offer one (or two) models with expanded memory, using the iPhone model; +$100 for 32MB, +$200 for 64MB.
Sounds fair to me.
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- 02-23-2012, 05:33 PM #17
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- 02-24-2012, 04:42 AM #19
The MS attitude to WP features and fixes seems to be "we'll get around to that". Which is an odd approach for the company playing catch-up.
- 02-24-2012, 09:38 AM #21
i would rather wait for these things then have updates that make things worse.
02-24-2012, 10:31 AM #22
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- 02-24-2012, 11:11 AM #23
I have waited AND had updates that have made things worse - or at least, no better. But the point is some of these things that are oversights should have ALWAYS been in there, or at least been put in place in Mango.
Like I say, the whole "just wait until..." thing is getting old. I don't want to be excited about getting feature parity and bug fixes - I want to be excited about brand new features no one else has.
- 02-24-2012, 11:19 AM #24
it doesn't have the htc sound EQ, but neither does any phone other than HTC. that's why it's called HTC sound EQ. that's like complaining that your nokia doesn't have the HTC hub.