View Poll Results: Who do you think will grab third place in smartphone market?
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Blackberry OS 10
Windows phone 8
- 08-24-2012, 03:28 PM #1
- 08-24-2012, 03:50 PM #2
MS... Simply put, right or wrong, people will be buying new PCs with Win8 and the Win8 style will be in everyone's face. While I can understand resistance to change, I think people will start to like the new UI and if so, that should translate to WP8 purchases.
However, if Win8 flops on the PC, then it's anyone's ballgame and BB has a chance to succeed in mobile.
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- 08-24-2012, 03:53 PM #3
- 08-24-2012, 04:18 PM #4
Windows will win not because it is better but simply because RIM isn't largely enough to compete in the mobile space in 2012/2013. Their whole market cap is less than what samsung and Apple are using to gain economics of scale in the supply chain, let along the massive marketing budgets they have.
MS has the scale and profitable products to support their activities, RIM does not.
- 02-05-2013, 11:46 AM #5
Short version: I'm more downbeat about the future of WP and more positive about BB10.
* Because even if you don't want apps yourself, being able to attract top-flight app developers is a positive sign.
- 02-05-2013, 12:18 PM #6
Does BB offer anything unique anymore? They grew from gaining a great corporate email foothold. They were the best at using the smartphone as a productivity and quick messaging tool. At their peak, the iPhone was seen as an entertainment-first device by corp IT departments.
Now, since we can all get our exchange access with any smartphone....so BB is no longer 'standard' for that. Also, BB used to be the clear productivity leader in terms of who can bang out an email more easily on the go. Used to be that the advantage in quickly checking and responding to big boy communications was much greater. Now with how great type-ahead is on soft keyboards (also voice input) that advantage is gone. Sure BB may still best for that, but it's certainly debatable at this point instead of a universal nod in their favor.
So between the 4 existing ecosystems. Which one has a truly unique advantage? They are all pretty much different flavors of doing the same thing. All of them are now easy to use and move around in. All do great email, maps, apps, etc. We can debate the details but its no longer about productivity vs entertainment. They are all good at both now. But apple, MS, and google are huge ecosystems that aren't going away. BB isn't an ecosystem, its just a device that can access your Gmail, ms corp exchange, etc. That's fine, I connect to Gmail with my winphone. Last thing we want is 3 big walled gardens. But for new users, people are able to associate winphone and windows, google with android, etc.
I can see BB winning back die hards, but for a new smartphone user....what is the draw? At least MS created a unique interface, BB just made another app-grid-widget solution like android.
I hope BB succeeds as well as winphone and everyone has at least 10% of the market. But MS can absorb a lot of mobile loss for years as they push their new skydrive/win8 ecosystem. Kind of sucks that BB's very existence is riding on them carving out a niche by trying to become a 'good enough' alternative that does the same stuff as the others.
- 02-05-2013, 12:46 PM #7
The only reason RIM was ever big was because it was THE smartphone. Blackberry was the first secure smartphone that business could trust and consumers could understand. Old BlackBerry users have moved on, I not know anybody who has purchased a BlackBerry device within the last 2 years. I don't even know anybody who is still holding on to a Blackberry device! (except my dad, but he's about to buy a windows phone) They waited too long and the market has moved on.
- 02-05-2013, 01:15 PM #8
BlackBerry 10 excels where WP is weak: Notification center, multi-tasking, universal search and a gesture based UI. Microsoft has to include these features, has to develop WP faster.
Microsoft has to leverage its current assets to gain an advantage. I hope to see the next year the platforms unified: Phone, Tablet, Xbox and Desktop running the same OS and services, giving a continuous and seamless experience for users and developers.
- 02-05-2013, 01:47 PM #9
- 02-05-2013, 01:54 PM #10
- 02-05-2013, 06:06 PM #11
...and I wonder why WP8 is winning. Windows Phone forum ftw! :P The more options the better. We've had Apple and Android as the major players the last years, be happy that two more players will be on the scene now!
02-05-2013, 06:59 PM #12
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Its really hilarious and yet unfortunate that we need to decide as consumers an "ecosystem" devide and.... Blablabla... If the system works for your needs regardless of the "it" app or that notification swipe than be it,.. Were all educated customers or so we like to project, saying that we can justify our needs accordingly. Funny observation wp8 users wish to be the underdog champs yet whine that instagram app or gameloft doesn't cater to their mass needs. Kinda odd if u wanna be apart from the heard yet seemingly desire assimilation. I want this platform to succeed, its unique, I'm no fanwhore, and as we all know completion breeds?..