- 09-03-2012, 02:30 AM #5
- 09-03-2012, 03:01 AM #6
I feel that this (in limited capacity, at least) and app resuming from tiles / app list will be imperative for WP8 to be well-received by the press and power users (the people who make the most noise on the Internet).
You can make all the arguments you want, but at the end of the day Live Tiles provide but a subset of notification centre functionality and the app relaunching model has absolutely no justification. It may be enough for you, but have any of the Live Tile defenders ever wondered why Apple, the company renowned for simplicity (at times, to the point of annoyance) includes a notification centre in their products, instead of something akin to Live Tiles?
Live Tiles serve an important purpose against icons and widgets, but the market has moved beyond those concepts. Now, Microsoft has to continue to tout (and "improve") Live Tiles because they have no full-blown notification solution, and they really can't create one without significant functional overlap with the tiles.
- 09-03-2012, 08:18 AM #7
Well, I know why Apple does it... because they're stubborn and generally push what THEY want you to use and HOW they want you to use it until they get an uprising of dissent requesting something. Then and only then do they bow and grant the masses their wish. And if you notice, their notification center came after everyone clamored about how good Android's was. I've been watching Apple get away with that for 28 years.
Live Tiles are great, and I rely on them, but I would like something more advanced like a notification hub. On the flip side, I don't want it to be like Android where I get crap notices from every flipping thing and I spend more time clearing the list than doing something productive.
- 09-03-2012, 10:29 AM #9
If you cannot live without a notification center you need to get a phone that has one. I don't really have a problem with how live tiles work and the new larger ones will be able to give your email and text messages just like a notification center. What is the difference besides implementation?
- 09-03-2012, 11:09 AM #12
I want a notification center too, but I LOVE my live tiles and WP, and happen to be a big advocate of the platform. Should I switch back to Android too, because I think a notification center could prove useful?
I mean, you essentially suggested that Microsoft might as well pack up and go home, because they're never going to attract the billion or more users of iPhone and Android because they don't have a notification center. No, no, don't bother adding it now... it's too late.
- 09-03-2012, 12:36 PM #13
I have no idea but I suspect the answer is "No" there hasn't been any evidence in any in Windows 8 on a whole. The idea of the Live Tiles is to provide similar information but on the tiles themselves and then only of the apps you want to see without having to open a drawer and what not. Apple had to provide one because once you dismissed a notice all you had left was the little red circle dot over the icon which told you nothing of the message you may have received. At least Live Tiles can give you information about the alert.
But I don't think we will see one until the next version update if it ever comes.
- 09-04-2012, 03:29 AM #15
- 09-04-2012, 12:15 PM #16
Swipe to the left is for that new Kid's Center feature I think.
Isn't the new lock screen supposed to be a "notification center?" If I turn my phone on I'm hoping I see how many missed calls, or new emails, or IM's or ESPN score updates, or whatever.... Otherwise maybe keep a running list of notifications in the Me tile...
- 09-04-2012, 05:47 PM #17
- 09-04-2012, 06:11 PM #18
As for live tiles being better than a notification center? Not in its current form. As it stands, I get much more information, much quicker, on both my iPhone and moto atrix than my samsung focus can. On my iPhone, I can even choose which apps will notify me, and in whichever way I want them to be able to. Most live tiles tell me NO more information than the numerical app badges iOS has had since launch.
- 09-04-2012, 06:18 PM #19
I've said elsewhere that the only real thing I personally would find a notification center useful for is all of the toast notifications I miss because they don't stay on the screen after a few seconds which annoys me a bit. But other than that the tiles do it for me.
- 09-04-2012, 07:03 PM #20
And the Me Tile isn't accessible system-wide, nor is it particularly geared towards notifications specifically.
- 09-04-2012, 07:44 PM #22
Nobody here has said or even suggested that Live Tiles are bad or ineffective. They never said toasts weren't good either. I'm a HUGE fan of using Live Tiles. That doesn't change the fact that I WANT something more central for all the notifications I might miss.
I'm a Windows Phone user, and I love the platform. So again I'll ask... who the heck are you or anyone else to suggest I or any other WP customer use a different platform just because I want Microsoft to improve or add something that will benefit us? Is it a must have? No. Desirable? Absolutely.
I tell you what... why don't you name a feature YOU want, and I'll tell you why it's not necessary, and how you should go get a different phone or OS if it's important to you.
Sorry to go on the offensive about this, and I get what you're trying to say, but I hope you get MY point now too. There is NOTHING wrong with asking a company to improve something... even if it's already a good thing.