12-08-2013 06:46 AM
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  1. prepraise's Avatar
    i have to admit that when it comes to IM services such as whatsapp and Line, our wp7.5 did not perform that well. What i understood is that those apps are not written in "native code", therefore has limitations to accessing the OS's core, making it few steps behind the iOS and android, or even Symbian S60

    right now the app is sluggish, notifications are delayed, and push is inconsistent.


    When WP 8 was announced, native code was introduced. how do you think whatsapp will perform? in terms of app performance? in terms of push notifications?
    10-22-2012 09:24 AM
  2. aniym's Avatar
    Hard to tell. The Facebook app was developed by Microsoft and even then the notifications on new messages would be very late, anywhere from 15 mins to 1 hour late. I'm not surprised 3rd party apps like Whatsapp did not perform well.
    10-22-2012 09:37 AM
  3. metalchick719's Avatar
    Hmm, so WhatsApp isn't all that great on WP? I've never used it, but I was considering getting it when I get a WP8 phone. Is it really that bad?
    10-22-2012 09:47 AM
  4. jimski's Avatar
    I almost never IM, but it's always interesting when I read threads like these. I use an app called Pro Sports Scores that can update a Live Tile via push every 10 to 30 seconds. So during a baseball game, for example, I see the results of almost every pitch. If a small third party developer can setup a push server to send data consistently and reliably, why can't they big guys do the same. I suspect it's not a problem with our WP7.x devices and more a server side issue. Just sayin.

    Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express Pro
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    10-22-2012 09:50 AM
  5. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    IM+ is free now. It's OK at best. IDK what's the deal with notifications. The 1st party twitter works flawlessly notification wise. The FB app, good luck. I only used whatsapp for a few hours, I didn't have any problems with it, but I had more friends using so many different services, it was of no use to me.
    10-22-2012 01:52 PM
  6. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    You don't think it could be the old endpoint issue showing up again?
    I almost never IM, but it's always interesting when I read threads like these. I use an app called Pro Sports Scores that can update a Live Tile via push every 10 to 30 seconds. So during a baseball game, for example, I see the results of almost every pitch. If a small third party developer can setup a push server to send data consistently and reliably, why can't they big guys do the same. I suspect it's not a problem with our WP7.x devices and more a server side issue. Just sayin.

    Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express Pro
    10-22-2012 01:53 PM
  7. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I've used WhatsApp since I've had my WP7.5. I've never had issues with it.

    I would hope it is available for WP8, since it is probably my most used app.
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    10-22-2012 01:55 PM
  8. dkp23's Avatar
    whatsapp worked great prior to two updates ago. Now it has issues with pictures loading priperly. before it worked perfectly with no delays
    10-22-2012 03:01 PM
  9. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    whatsapp worked great prior to two updates ago. Now it has issues with pictures loading priperly. before it worked perfectly with no delays
    That's odd. I have a friend who sends pictures every day, and I get them all. He has an Android device and uses Sprint, and I have AT&T.

    Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling WhatsApp?
    10-22-2012 03:16 PM
  10. a5cent's Avatar
    What i understood is that those apps are not written in "native code", therefore has limitations to accessing the OS's core, making it few steps behind the iOS and android, or even Symbian S60
    Whoever told you that is talking out of their a55 and should never be asked for smartphone advice again. That statement is complete rubbish. Garbage. Trash. Junk. Native code capability is completely unrelated to any features involving Microsoft's push notification service.

    The main reason people think push notifications do not work is because they have deactivated data over cellular and/or don't have a data plan with their carrier. That is always the first thing to look at. If changing that doesn't solve you problem, then your issues are the app developers fault and have nothing to do with Microsoft or WP7.5.

    Beyond that, IM apps under WP8 will behave just as well/poorly as they did under WP7.
    Last edited by a5cent; 10-22-2012 at 04:15 PM.
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    10-22-2012 03:19 PM
  11. Heron_Kusanagi's Avatar
    Well, it depends on the developers, no?
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    10-22-2012 05:55 PM
  12. eric12341's Avatar
    Well it depends on if the specific app is compiled for WP8 or not, if its still compiled for 7.5 then performance will be exactly how it is currently on a 7.5 device. That being said kik has been really solid so far with its push performance.
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    10-22-2012 07:54 PM
  13. prepraise's Avatar
    thx for the correction. just hope devs would invest more on their apps on WP8.

    unfortunately,the small market share of wp7.5 prob isnt worth their effort polishing their apps(?). not sure if thats the case.
    10-23-2012 08:39 AM
  14. SnailUK's Avatar
    From what i've seen & read about skype on WP8, it should be ready for notifications all the time, as such, i'm sure IM clients should be the same.
    10-23-2012 09:16 AM
  15. thed's Avatar
    I use an app called Notify My Windows Phone. It lets you send notifications with a custom message to your phone by sending an HTTP request to the developer's server. I use it to monitor some of my home PCs as well as a web site that I developed.

    When I test the service, the notification always comes through a few seconds after I send the request to the server. This tells me that it's very possible to have instant push notifications as long as the app developer's server is well implemented. If you're experiencing delayed notifications, it's probably because of the developer's server, not MS's push servers.
    10-23-2012 10:04 AM
  16. X0LARIUM's Avatar
    Can confirm the lag on HD7 too. Notifications were late, the app never opened instantly...blah blah blah.

    If MS is going to test waters, so am I now. ..

    Sent from my RaZr 4X HD...
    10-23-2012 11:25 AM
  17. TMavC5's Avatar
    I just hope Facebook app runs better on WP8.
    10-23-2012 11:40 AM
  18. AaHaa's Avatar
    Is there anyone who has been able to test Whatsapp on a Windows Phone 8? I'm pretty curious about the performance since it's about bigger than text messaging here in the Netherlands.
    11-04-2012 12:20 PM
  19. Xsever's Avatar
    Is there anyone who has been able to test Whatsapp on a Windows Phone 8? I'm pretty curious about the performance since it's about bigger than text messaging here in the Netherlands.
    I have the 920 and I use whatsapp. The app definitely loads faster but the bugs that are in wp7 are still here as the app didn't get updated yet.

    No more than one picture can be downloaded in one session, sometimes you receive notification but can't see the message inside until you relaunch a couple of times, and it still sometimes fails to smooth transfer from cellular data to wifi.
    11-04-2012 12:54 PM
  20. Xsever's Avatar
    I just hope Facebook app runs better on WP8.
    The Facebook is definitely much better on WP8 but notifications are still hit and miss.
    11-04-2012 12:55 PM
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    11-04-2012 12:55 PM
  22. Crabby Abie The Queen T-Flo's Avatar
    Symbian is the king of all....hahaha. I dont know why Lumia lineup is crappy when it comes to messaging. I really do hope that the nokia devs fix this once and for all. Smartphones are all about connectivity....and bcoz of this issue, that makes nokia lumia not so smaaaart...i am starting to hate it. My whatsapp is getting delayed sending and receiving messages.
    12-08-2013 05:26 AM
  23. Crabby Abie The Queen T-Flo's Avatar
    Whoever told you that is talking out of their a55 and should never be asked for smartphone advice again. That statement is complete rubbish. Garbage. Trash. Junk. Native code capability is completely unrelated to any features involving Microsoft's push notification service.

    The main reason people think push notifications do not work is because they have deactivated data over cellular and/or don't have a data plan with their carrier. That is always the first thing to look at. If changing that doesn't solve you problem, then your issues are the app developers fault and have nothing to do with Microsoft or WP7.5.

    Beyond that, IM apps under WP8 will behave just as well/poorly as they did under WP7.
    Hello. I have my data plan on. I leave it on overnight, and next day, i send a msg via whatsapp, it shows the small clock symbol...meaning message hangs , not sent...i dont know if its the server, or my phone, or the whatsapp itself. I changed cellular operators coz i thought it was my cellular network thats faulty...my 3g was also good in my area.
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    12-08-2013 05:32 AM
  24. pmhgeneral's Avatar
    Hello. I have my data plan on. I leave it on overnight, and next day, i send a msg via whatsapp, it shows the small clock symbol...meaning message hangs , not sent...i dont know if its the server, or my phone, or the whatsapp itself. I changed cellular operators coz i thought it was my cellular network thats faulty...my 3g was also good in my area.
    You know, I try to use Skype and have the same thing as you the spinning wheel, also this morning IM+ is just saying connecting and not loading, so what's going on with messaging services. I do remember seeing a posting MS is working on a update for Skype do out soon for WP 8 I wonder if this maybe the problems?.
    Last edited by pmhgeneral; 12-08-2013 at 06:36 AM.
    12-08-2013 06:18 AM
  25. Crabby Abie The Queen T-Flo's Avatar
    You know, I try to use Skype and have the same thing as you the spinning wheel, also this morning IM+ is just saying connecting and not loading, so what's going on with messaging services. I do remember seeing a posting MS is working on a update for Skype do out soon for WP 8 I wonder if this maybe the problems?.
    A lot of people say that 3rd party messaging is crappy on WP8...i think its true. I hope they fix it...
    12-08-2013 06:44 AM
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