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       #76  
    Reworded all the points to be "suggestions".

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveGx View Post
    For the browser, why can't they have a hidden bar on the top, that comes down if you swype down from the top of your screen?
    It makes no sense to me. With Windows 8, they are all-in on edge gestures. With Windows Phone, there are so many instances where edge gestures would make perfect sense... but they've done zilch. Maybe they really did run behind schedule due to the kernel charge and seriously had no time to do much else.

    Quote Originally Posted by wpcautobot View Post
    You can multi-select texts and emails by pressing at the very left edge of the screen for one of the items. A check box will appear and you can check each item you want.
    Clarified the point slightly. You can multi-select in email, but no select all is the complaint there. You cannot multi-select text messages in Windows Phone 7, if it is different for WP8 then I am all ears.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bacchus1976 View Post
    You need to put WiFi Sync at the top of that list in big, bold font. It's by far the biggest gap in the product considering it existed in WP7/Zune.

    Also, Podcast support in XBox Music and auto-playlists. I guess that could be called a Win8 issue, but since it limits WP8 functionality it's worth noting.
    Thanks, I added these to a new syncing category. Am I right to assume that "auto-playlists" is akin to what Smart DJ was in Zune?
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    Quite thorough list. Let's pray MSFT will listen
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    1. A way to stream .m3u files
    2. Pushing "delete" goes to the next email
    3. A way to print (PDF or Office) from the phone
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    After reading a little bit of the thread (sorry I couldn't read all of it because there was just too much bickering, which is normal) I am going to share what I always thought Microsoft did wrong with WP8. You may not AGREE which is completely fine I just wanted to bounce my ideas off you guys.

    First and foremost I think Microsoft completely blew the design and implementation of WP8. If they wanted a 3 screen vision they should have made WP8 more in line with W8 and the UI on the Xbox which are grouped into into clusters, but more importantly implement side scrolling. There were a lot of fan renders showing how this would have looked on the phone and I absolutely loved it. They could have still allowed the live tiles to use three different sizes as well.

    On the topic of live tiles themselves. They are pretty but limited in their use. I know they CAN do a lot more than widgets per say but I would have liked to see increased usability with them. I was thinking the other day that for some live tiles we should have the ability to execute quick actions. For example (and I just thought about this the other day so relax) what if for text messages you were able to double click on the tile to quick respond to one of your contacts who sent you a new message. Honestly I would just like them to behave slightly more like widgets. You know, like being able to scroll through your text messages so you can quickly see who texted you and what they said.

    Obviously this has been a hot topic the last couple of weeks and IDK if MS is planning something, but they need to figure out a notification hub. For the people saying its not necessary please respond with your opinion because I have not seen one that I thought was more EFFICIENT than a notification center accessible from anywhere in the OS. I will leave that alone now...

    Ok, now I love the way that apps take up the whole screen but I feel that they messed up here as well. Let me bounce this idea off of you and I actually do want to hear what you guys think about this because I always thought this to be genius lol. I don't mind if they allow apps to take up the entire screen but why not have the swipe down motion bring up the status bar over the app? (or just allow the status bar to always be there......another interesting omission on their part) Not only would you be able to swipe to bring up the bar no matter where you are, but then I would like to introduce the webOs style ability to adjust wifi, bluetooth, and other settings from this bar with possibly a touble tap? Is this where they could implement the notification center in a new and different way.

    I have a lot of stuff floating around in my head but I'll stop here because it is a jumbled mess lol. I guess all in all I still love W8 and WP8 from an aesthetic point of view, but I feel there is not enough continuity across platforms (UI wise) yet. I think this really hurts them in what they are trying to do. I don't want to be that guy but I feel like they got this out there but it is soooooo far from polished. When you think about, there are a lot of great features they implemented in WP8 from WP7 but a lot of the hot topics that people were complaining about....they didn't do sh*t.

    Bring on the hate!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by twint7787 View Post
    If they wanted a 3 screen vision they should have made WP8 more in line with W8 and the UI on the Xbox which are grouped into into clusters, but more importantly implement side scrolling. There were a lot of fan renders showing how this would have looked on the phone and I absolutely loved it.
    I think it is very difficult to implement the side scrolling paradigm for phones used primarily in portrait. Could you point us to some of these renders?

    Quote Originally Posted by twint7787 View Post
    I was thinking the other day that for some live tiles we should have the ability to execute quick actions. For example (and I just thought about this the other day so relax) what if for text messages you were able to double click on the tile to quick respond to one of your contacts who sent you a new message.
    I added this, though I think this is a fine line to tread and I can see why Microsoft hasn't done it yet. Double taps or some other gesture could work, but I wouldn't want scrolling on the tiles themselves - the home screen itself scrolls so it would become rather fiddly.

    Quote Originally Posted by twint7787 View Post
    I don't mind if they allow apps to take up the entire screen but why not have the swipe down motion bring up the status bar over the app? (or just allow the status bar to always be there......another interesting omission on their part)
    It's not new for apps to be able to omit the status bar. I support your idea since I like the look of apps without the status bar and I'm always for wider use of edge gestures. It wouldn't be very different from Android though, since it will still be a swipe from the top.
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    -Fix podcasts in Xbox Music. I am still experiencing the bug where hitting the 'subscribe' buttons on podcast does nothing.

    I've tried searching these forums and Googling all over the place to no avail. I find it rather irritating that such a crucial feature is broken right out of the box, causing me to pay for a third party app to fulfill my needs (most of which are terrible as well).

    -Allow emails to be sent from Outlook.com aliases. Quite the head scratcher that MS allows this to be done from the web, but not from WP.

    -Make IE suck less. I get the idea that implementing Webkit may introduce more problems than it solves, or that MS is fundamentally against it, or whatever. However, as I user I honestly don't care. All I know is that IE Mobile (or whatever it's called) is insufficient for most of the sites I use (Paypal, a few sports websites, Reddit, and I could go on). On that note, I find it very ironic that MSN.com is far more better looking and intuitive on iOS devices than it is in WP8. FIX IT.

    -Wireless printing would be welcome.

    -A way of dialing numbers faster. It takes an absurd amount of steps to call someone (e.g. click phone app --> then address book --> then the magnifying glass --> search for the contact --> click the number you want to dial). This could be easily remedied by adding a sticking a search button in the phone app that searches ALL contacts and not just those you've recently dialed.
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    Are you saying that if someone has an outlook account, they cannot send emails using a windows phone device?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaqvi91 View Post
    Are you saying that if someone has an outlook account, they cannot send emails using a windows phone device?
    Assuming you mean Outlook.com, you cannot send emails from an alias, only the primary email of the account.

    Quote Originally Posted by thor_molecules View Post
    Fix podcasts in Xbox Music. I am still experiencing the bug where hitting the 'subscribe' buttons on podcast does nothing.
    Is this to do with your location (podcasts don't work in Australia, for example) or simply a bug?

    Quote Originally Posted by thor_molecules View Post
    Make IE suck less. I get the idea that implementing Webkit may introduce more problems than it solves, or that MS is fundamentally against it, or whatever. However, as I user I honestly don't care. All I know is that IE Mobile (or whatever it's called) is insufficient for most of the sites I use (Paypal, a few sports websites, Reddit, and I could go on).
    Tell web developers to stop screwing over the web. The web will evolve past Webkit at some stage or another. It is stupid to target your site to only work well on one engine. People hate sites catering specifically for IE6, you should also hate sites catering specifically for Webkit. That blame may fall on Microsoft itself for MSN, point still stands.

    Quote Originally Posted by thor_molecules View Post
    A way of dialing numbers faster. It takes an absurd amount of steps to call someone (e.g. click phone app --> then address book --> then the magnifying glass --> search for the contact --> click the number you want to dial).
    This can be reasonably addressed through speed dial and predictive dialing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryNil View Post
    Assuming you mean Outlook.com, you cannot send emails from an alias, only the primary email of the account.
    Sorry what's alias?


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    I have my own lil detailed list after using my lovely Lumia 920 for a lil while. But I'm way too hungry to type it all up. And I'm sure most, if not all, have already been mentioned in this post. But in hopes that MS will peruse this thread, I'll add on to the voice.

    1. Yep, I know it's "coming" but an always accessible notification center would be welcome. At first I thought I could live with the notifications to item on the start screen. But this I finally realize doesn't work well. What keeps happening is this; I have a few apps (games) with push notifications, if the notification comes in, the rings and I'm alerted and the app responsible flashes on the top of the screen. Issue is, if I'm not near, I'll hear the notification get to the phone and unless it's pinned, I have zero idea what the notification was for. Only that it's not a message, email or what I have pinned so here I go checking all apps, lol.

    2. As the second post said, better formatting for all apps on full screen. I realized that using my phone while on a call is very easy! However MOST apps and games are hard/impossible to use when on a call. The top bar becomes ever present to remind you you're on a call, and so it pushes or squishes stuff in the app down. So games like Alphajax (where your letters on on the bottom) or minesweeper (need to see that bottom row?) become hard or impossible to use.

    3. Minor but useful, full audio controls for all audio producing events. So, I can set notification tones to stop beeping loudly during a call, seek through a track in a song or whatever else.

    4. And essentially everything else in this great thread.

    I think the heartache for most of us users is that a lot of these features are kinda there r kinda available. So we know the platform/OS can do it, we have some aps that replicate it, or see it enabled on other phones. Or there's a place in the phone that does a basic feature, but it's not a device feature when it should be. So the nice clean smooth OS hint's at it, but we can't do it, so it's a lil bleh. So, hope MS peruses this thread for us, :D

    Oh, and though the mail client is great, I wonder if it's possible to have a sent from option. I have everything forwarded to one account and I quickly realized sending it from my phone meant not using the incoming address's alias.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snaqvi91 View Post
    Sorry what's alias?
    This article should give a reasonable overview.

    http://winsupersite.com/windows-live...-email-aliases
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    I've managed to look past the notification center, my live tiles seem to work well enough. What I'd love to see though is some kind of thin, rectangular divider tile that sort categorizes my tiles, kind of like tabs on a folder. Not looking for a multiple home screen thing, I just want my tiles to be a little less cluttered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryNil View Post
    This article should give a reasonable overview.

    http://winsupersite.com/windows-live...-email-aliases
    Never mind it's too confusing. Thanks anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halimaw96 View Post
    I've managed to look past the notification center, my live tiles seem to work well enough. What I'd love to see though is some kind of thin, rectangular divider tile that sort categorizes my tiles, kind of like tabs on a folder. Not looking for a multiple home screen thing, I just want my tiles to be a little less cluttered.
    Kinda possible using custom tile creators or apps such as Groupy, but I think it would help if this was a system feature. Kind of sucks to hit a Groupy tile and get taken into the app anyway.
    Quote Originally Posted by poken1151 View Post
    2. As the second post said, better formatting for all apps on full screen. I realized that using my phone while on a call is very easy! However MOST apps and games are hard/impossible to use when on a call. The top bar becomes ever present to remind you you're on a call, and so it pushes or squishes stuff in the app down.
    Great point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryNil View Post
    Assuming you mean Outlook.com, you cannot send emails from an alias, only the primary email of the account.


    Is this to do with your location (podcasts don't work in Australia, for example) or simply a bug?


    Tell web developers to stop screwing over the web. The web will evolve past Webkit at some stage or another. It is stupid to target your site to only work well on one engine. People hate sites catering specifically for IE6, you should also hate sites catering specifically for Webkit. That blame may fall on Microsoft itself for MSN, point still stands.


    This can be reasonably addressed through speed dial and predictive dialing.
    1) I'm in the US on Verizon. The built-in podcast function just does not work and the third party options aren't much better. Too much to rehash here, but I know it to be a bug/defect in the OS.

    Search around the forums here. Plenty of people are having similar issues.

    2) I get that sites catering to Webkit isn't Microsoft's fault, but it hurts WP adoption nonetheless. Joe or Jane Average simply doesn't know (or care) enough to go the route of emailing site devs to complain about it.

    All they'll know is websites look like crap on WP, and will pass on it for another platform. Personally, I can live with a little ugly. What irks me is that certain sites just don't plain work.

    3) Agreed that WP desperately needs some kind of speed dial functionality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thor_molecules View Post
    -A way of dialing numbers faster. It takes an absurd amount of steps to call someone (e.g. click phone app --> then address book --> then the magnifying glass --> search for the contact --> click the number you want to dial). This could be easily remedied by adding a sticking a search button in the phone app that searches ALL contacts and not just those you've recently dialed.
    Yes! I returned my 8X for many reasons, but this was the biggest. The thing simply fails at being an easy-to-use phone. I was amazed to discover that Microsoft recommends using recently-dialed contacts as a speed-dial replacement.

    Too, I thought it was ridiculous that answering the phone is a two-step process (slide to unlock, then tap the "answer" button).

    I've never been as frustrated with something that's so easy to do in all competing smartphone platforms. Both Android and iOS provide a favorite contacts list that's just a swipe away from the dial pad, and Android also provides functionality to search contacts using the letters on the dial pad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thor_molecules View Post
    1) I'm in the US on Verizon. The built-in podcast function just does not work and the third party options aren't much better. Too much to rehash here, but I know it to be a bug/defect in the OS.
    I haven't really included many bugs, but I think I'll add them starting with this one. Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by djrakowski View Post
    Too, I thought it was ridiculous that answering the phone is a two-step process (slide to unlock, then tap the "answer" button)
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    Great thread. Very useful for WP8 users to check against future updates. I really think MS needs to work on a big update (and very soon!) to keep WP8 at the forefront of smartphone OSes. Like someone else mentioned earlier, Portico reallyy needs to be the Jellybean of WP8 if MS wants to boost adoption rate.

    Just 2 things to add:
    1. System-wide tap to top
    This has to be implemented. I don't want to be scrolling up all the way after reading a long *** list.

    2. Easier way to access tabs in IE
    Right now it takes 2 taps to go to tab view ('...' then 'tabs'). There really should be a tab button somewhere on the page or activated via a gesture (left swiping beyond page limits for example).

    3. (yes this was already mentioned but I need to say it again) Easier way to answer calls.
    I shouldnt have to look for the button to answer even after swiping up. This makes answering calls on the go (eg, while walking) difficult because you have to locate the button on the screen. Reduce it down to one general gesture please.
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    Status bar at the top of the screen would kill all aesthetics.
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    Better skype integration. Add it as an Account in Email/Account. Then allow skype calls (using credits) to mobile/fixed line from WITHIN People Hub. Right now this can't be done. If Android can do this, Meego can do this, then I expect MS to be able to do this.

    Display Album art in the lock screen when playing music instead of a blank screen.
    Display Artist information regardless of location. Mine shows a blank background besides the album art.
    Display lyrics.
    Display ratings instead of just a heart.

    Week view, month view for calendar.

    USB Drive mode in Mac instead of relying on Windows Phone app.

    Support for more video format (heck if Android can do it, so can you).

    Display the wifi, mobile network indicators permanently. Why hide it??

    Bug with kids corner. IF you turned on the phone lock code and then the kids corner, it will force your kids corner to have a lock as well. If you turn on the Kid's corner first, and then the lock, the kids corner won't have a lock. To me, this is a bug. There should be an option to enable lock on kids corner or not. MOST people will not want the lock on kid's corner which defeats the purpose of having a kid's corner.

    Add a integrated account with Dropbox. I know this competes against Skydrive, but cmon, everyone uses multiple offline storage. If MS wants to be successful, this should be built in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryNil View Post
    Assuming you mean Outlook.com, you cannot send emails from an alias, only the primary email of the account.
    Although it isn't a perfect solution, you actually can now.
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    Problem: Inconsistent behavior of the capacitive back button

    This is a seriously annoying design and potentially confusing for new users that is pervasive throughout the WP UX. The capacitive back button behaves in two different ways depending upon how you enter an app.


    • If I freshly launch an app (either from the start screen or from the app list) and navigate down into a few screens (or a few web pages in the case of IE), each successive tap on the back button will take me back one screen (or web page). If I am at (or return to) an app's main screen, one additional tap of the back button closes the app.
    • If I resume an app (there are several ways to do this: app switcher, tapping the title from the volume control, perhaps others I can't think of); a single tap of the back button returns to the prior app no matter how many screens I navigated through to get to the "current" screen. It's as if an app's history associated with the back button was lost when the app was resumed.


    The times that I have found this most annoying are the following two:


    • When resuming IE from the app manager (in which case the back button doesn't step back through past web pages). Yes, I know I can use "recent" but it doesn't conform to conventional use of a 'back' button, and it isn't even consistent with the behavior of the 'back' button had I not resumed.
    • When the music app is resumed either from the app mamger or the volume control (by tapping the current track info). In this case IE opens the music app, but there is no way to navigate to higer level music screens without relaunching the music app from either the start screen or app list.


    This inconsistent behavior forces me to remember how I got to the current screen so that I know where the 'back' button will take me. Moreover, because some apps (such as Music) don't provide links from deep screens to higher level screens, it may not be possible to get to some screens without relaunching the app.

    Now imagine that I'm someone considering purchasing a WP device and launch an app, play with it, use the back button a few times... I think I know what to expect. Then at some later point I try to resume the app and tap the back button. My response would likely be WTF!
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    This is a great thread, thanks AngryNil.

    If only Microsoft would show the same dedication to Windows Phone as its users do... :(
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    These are my suggestions

    IE
    • No folders in IE favorites
    • No dedicated forward/back buttons OR Swipe left/right for forward/back


    Messaging

    • No copy text from received messages.
    • No search text/SMS


    Xbox Music+Video

    • Crappy playlist creation, editing, sync
    • Can't clear "current playing" list (currently only able to by power cycling the phone)
    • Lots of duplicates in music after awhile.
    • Be able to add Podcasts from other sources.
    • No search local files.
    • A desktop application for Windows 7 (access/pay/buy/steam Music, and Videos from the store) that will synchronize existing music/videos to phone.


    • No DLNA - Client or server


    SD card

    • Need to add "store documents", "email attachments", and "PodcastSeries" to store on SD card.


    Speech

    • More speech recognition in more areas of the phone (all text boxes).


    Phone

    • No Call length in Phone history


    No quick switching of WiFi and Airplane mode on or off.

    Search

    • Need to include local files and calendar.


    Lock Screen

    • No "Screen times out after" = never
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guzzler3 View Post
    Lock Screen

    • No "Screen times out after" = never
    When would you want that?
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