1. jrdatrackstar1223's Avatar
    I will be picking up a 920 for use on Straight Talk, but since NFC will be carrier dependent, how will that work? Will you be forced to sign a contract to use NFC now...? Also, will the NFC work without an app (like Google Wallet has to be installed to pay for things) or will you simply be able to use the Wallet App itself to pay for things (like at a gas station with an NFC station)?
    11-08-2012 10:44 AM
  2. jrdatrackstar1223's Avatar
    Really.....no one has the answer to this? This will make or break whether I can pick up a Windows Phone 8 device to use on Straight Talk....
    11-08-2012 12:49 PM
  3. Residing's Avatar
    Really.....no one has the answer to this? This will make or break whether I can pick up a Windows Phone 8 device to use on Straight Talk....
    Well, technically, the Lumia 920 will not be in anyone's hands until tomorrow, so....

    Why don't you just chance the purchase, and test the functionality yourself? You'll have 14 days to return the device if it doesn't perform to your standards.
    11-08-2012 01:08 PM
  4. jrdatrackstar1223's Avatar
    Well, technically, the Lumia 920 will not be in anyone's hands until tomorrow, so....

    Why don't you just chance the purchase, and test the functionality yourself? You'll have 14 days to return the device if it doesn't perform to your standards.
    If I purchase it outright...? I'm not going to sign a contract for it, but only want to use it through Straight Talk...
    11-08-2012 01:10 PM
  5. jrdatrackstar1223's Avatar
    Does anyone else have want insight on this? I would like to pick up a Lumia 820. What would be nice is if Microsoft offered the secure SIM element from their own shops for respective carrier. For example, they would have an ATT secure NFC SIM without having to sign a contract for the SIM through ATT.
    12-06-2012 07:08 PM
  6. inteller's Avatar
    I thought that the secure sim just authenticates the user, not a carrier billing transaction. if the case, ST should be able to issue their own secure sim once the isis folks get their head out of their ***.
    12-06-2012 07:28 PM
  7. jrdatrackstar1223's Avatar
    I thought that the secure sim just authenticates the user, not a carrier billing transaction. if the case, ST should be able to issue their own secure sim once the isis folks get their head out of their ***.
    So, as I understand it, there has to be a secure SIM card you put into the phone for the Wallet feature to open up? When I tested Wallet at the AT&T store, there was nothing I could do with it. I'm assuming this is because of the secure SIM, or do you need to insert the secure SIM as you are making an NFC purchase at a gas station, for example?
    12-07-2012 08:49 AM
  8. inteller's Avatar
    no you can use Wallet right now to store numbers and such, you just can't pay with it. Also, as apps like Groupon come along they will store offers in Wallet. To make an actual payment you would need an ISIS SIM.
    12-07-2012 08:51 AM
  9. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    no you can use Wallet right now to store numbers and such, you just can't pay with it. Also, as apps like Groupon come along they will store offers in Wallet. To make an actual payment you would need an ISIS SIM.
    So basically, that locks out UK users like myself correct?
    12-07-2012 09:02 AM
  10. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    So basically, that locks out UK users like myself correct?
    Correct! Our tech is pretty low compared to US
    12-07-2012 09:06 AM
  11. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    Correct! Our tech is pretty low compared to US
    Gah ffs... I was kinda hoping to get something like that in time... guess we'll get this version of ISIS after MS decides to make it no longer work with Wallet forcing us to use a 2000 year old phone to use it...
    12-07-2012 09:18 AM
  12. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    ^ It took as ages to after US to get a micro-SIM! (Thank iPhone for that)
    12-07-2012 09:27 AM
  13. inteller's Avatar
    no i thought every other place besides the US would get NFC payments enabled without ISIS. ISIS is just for US 920s because we have a cabal of carriers here who think they should be the middle man for all mobile payments. I have no idea how NFC payment works outside US
    12-07-2012 09:39 AM
  14. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    no i thought every other place besides the US would get NFC payments enabled without ISIS. ISIS is just for US 920s because we have a cabal of carriers here who think they should be the middle man for all mobile payments. I have no idea how NFC payment works outside US
    So what about those of us like me who are in the UK and then visit the US taking our International Unlocked GSM Lumia with us? Will we still be able to use our system or would we then need an ISIS SIM?
    12-07-2012 10:06 AM
  15. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    So what about those of us like me who are in the UK and then visit the US taking our International Unlocked GSM Lumia with us? Will we still be able to use our system or would we then need an ISIS SIM?
    If like me you get a EE locked Lumia, you are out of luck. But if you are going to wait out and then shell out 550+ to get a truly unlocked one, then sure you can pop in a ISIS SIM!
    12-08-2012 02:58 AM
  16. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    If like me you get a EE locked Lumia, you are out of luck. But if you are going to wait out and then shell out 550+ to get a truly unlocked one, then sure you can pop in a ISIS SIM!
    I'm likely getting mine from CPW. Which means truly unlocked. Shamefully Tesco aren't selling them commitment-free, else I would buy from there and get their insurance. I'll ask at the Bradford store.
    12-09-2012 09:51 AM
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