- 11-14-2012, 08:24 AM #28
I'm what I like to call, Hyper Organized, when it comes to my mp3 Collection.
This is just an example. Every artist, alphabetically, then into their discography, labeled in a manner that keeps them in chronological, not alphabetical. Then, in each album folder, every mp3 is tagged the exact same way. Track # in 2 digit form, a space, then the title of the track. It keep it neat, clean and simple.
But this stupid setting on my WP8 is pissing me off to no end. Changing album titles and pretty much re-organizing my collection on the phone. At one point, each of the Metallica albums I put on my phone were in 2 folders to make one album... because this setting allows Xbox Music to update song information on the device. So what I have as 1983 - Kill 'Em All, was also Kill 'Em All. The 10 tracks that make up the album were in 2 folders.
After re-syncing my selected music onto the device for a 3rd time and still seeing the problem, I started to look through the setting and saw that setting defaulted to on. Turning it off stopped the problem. Sanity returned.
I tag my music the way I like, and I hate when these services pretty much undo it. It's why I had to turn SmartDJ off of my Zune HD and the software itself.
I do hate, however, that when I turn the feature off, it no longers give the artist bio or pictures or anything like that. I can deal with it, but it kinda sucks.
Last edited by Loiselle; 11-14-2012 at 08:42 AM.
11-14-2012, 09:18 AM #29
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I synced some albums by Silversun Pickups, and while the phone recognizes them as the artist, it doesn't show their picture in the background/on the tile. When I go to the Store and look them up there, it says that all of their albums are "in my collection."
The properties of the tracks show the artist as being correct, so I'm not sure why it isn't working. All of my other MP3s show their respective photos in the background. Blah!
11-14-2012, 10:37 AM #31
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Yeah, I keep getting an error message when I try to download the desktop sync app (beta? total side note wtf btw) and I keep getting an error message:
"Windows Phone requires .Net framework 4.0 Please install from 'http://go.microsft.com/?LinkID=186913/' and restart setup"
But when I try to go to that address it's a dead end. Best part now, as I read this blog, even if I were to download the sync a bunch of people are having problems with it. Was the windows 8 release a total surprise to microsoft or do they just expect people won't notice their ****s not working?
I also subscribed to the super expensive xbox music pass but I can't get it to work on my 920. Online it says music pass should appear under the "new" menu in the xbox video/music app but, NOPE!
I must say this has really got me thinking if windows 8 mobile is ready. I'm burnt out on iphone and its lack of innovation but at least their **** worked. I'm wondering now if I should return my 920 and xbox and get a galaxy with a sweet speaker system instead.
I would appreciate any suggestions on how to trouble shoot / thoughts about making a switch to a better functioning ecosystem.
11-14-2012, 10:51 AM #32
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Well I've solved my sync issues for now. I'm on Windows 7 and use the Zune pass and have a 920. The two devices basically are incompatible. It's as if they're made by two different companies...so, I've decided to continue to use my Lumia 900 to listen to music. 90% of what I listen to is in my car, so I'm just going to leave my 900 in the car and continue to use that. Thanks Microsoft, you really f'ed this up.
11-14-2012, 11:02 AM #33
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Theres a way round it. I had this issue as well and it was bugging the sh*t out of me. All my albums on zune pass and stored on my PC came up with the DRM error when i went to play it on my HTC 8x - easiest way to solve it is let the album play and come up with all the drm errors once its done hit the ... in the bottom corner and select "more from store" it should then come up with the same album from the marketplace and flick to already in collection - once its done this hit the back arrow and go back to your album and the DRM error disappears
- 11-14-2012, 11:07 AM #34My smartphone history.
11-14-2012, 11:21 AM #35
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I was looking for help with this. I am new to the whole Windows phone. Just got the 920 and can't sync with Windows 8. I can stream from xbox music but I think it's using a lot of data for that cause I don't think it caches the music.
I too am kind of blown away by this. Microsoft should have had this ready for the product. Or at least mentioned that it wasn't ready and prepared us. I hate it when something should work but doesn't and you wonder if they know it or not. How could they miss this? How does this go all way to release without being ready.
My playlists on XBOX Music do not sync to the Lumia 920. The songs appear to be on my phone, locally. But the playlist to play them is not. I can play a song or an album, but I can't create a playlist on the phone. So since I can't create a playlist on the phone and I can't sync a playlist from the Windows 8 app, I simply can't have a playlist at all unless I stream from XBOX music. Microsoft??? What the heck man? Are you stupid or something?
11-14-2012, 11:26 AM #36
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Thanks for the eloquent description. I've spent the afternoon struggling with the same problem.
The artist was renamed on some (but not all) of the tracks on an album I was trying to sync, confusion reigned!
I'm hoping that this is actually a bug and that it will get changed so that it only updates missing data.
11-14-2012, 12:40 PM #37
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The inability to manage playlists on the phone itself is shocking.
The ONLY thing you can do on the phone is turn whatever is in the "Playing Now" list into a playlist. Actually seeing what is on the "Playing Now" list seems to be impossible and as far as I can tell, if you try and add one track, the whole album gets added.
It's broken, or not developed, I can't decide which. Either way, for a subscription service like Xbox Music, it's embarrassing.
11-14-2012, 03:22 PM #38
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How are you syncing your music to the phone?
I'm also meticulous when it comes to tagging & disabled the xbox music option on the phone but everything I've tried to get music onto the phone has either not worked or creates duplicates of every track.
Any help would be appreciated.
11-14-2012, 04:38 PM #39
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- 11-14-2012, 04:57 PM #40
I think everyone is going to have to live with this. Xbox (and most other media companies, Google Play, iTunes, Spotify) is trying to allow you to stream all your music to all your devices using the Cloud Collection's matching function. In order to do this effectively you need to let Xbox Music own and manage your track information. I was anal like you back in the day and eventually I just gave up and let Zune handle the organization, it's an adjustment but I haven't really found myself bother by it since I used Zune/Zune HD and WP7 to play all my music in all cases. It basically forces you into the ecosystem, which of course is why they are doing it. I came willingly.
The fact that they've ditched any WiFi syncing ability makes me think they are pushing towards this model exclusively and it's always going to be very difficult to both use the Cloud services AND to manually drag your files onto your phone. Personally, I'd rather my music stay local and spare me my bandwidth but we shall see what the end result is when MS gets their **** together with Xbox music.
- 11-14-2012, 08:58 PM #41
- 11-14-2012, 11:00 PM #42
My previous experiences with the Zune software and my archaic Zune 30 is one of the reasons I have no intention initially of using the Lumia 920 I've ordered for music or podcasts at all...for that I'm going to continue using my iPhone 4 (re-purposed for all intents and purposes as an iPod).
11-14-2012, 11:29 PM #43
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I seem to have found a workaround. Browse the device and go to the hidden Album folder inside /Music. For split albums you should 2 ser files, delete the bad one. I think I had to sync again after that (Mac user here).....but after that all songs stayed in the clean album on the device. Let me know if this works for you.
- 11-14-2012, 11:38 PM #44
I'm gonna miss the Zune software for my phone. I can't believe it's not compatible with WP8. That seems to be a ball dropper. It's pretty weird Windows products needs iTunes to sync (from what I'm reading). I still use my Zune HD for most of music listening, but I like to keep some stuff on my phone for when I'm not by my Zune. They should just rebrand the Zune software as XBox Music, and move on.Sprint (9 1/2 years) - Samsung SPH-A460, Sanyo PM-8200(S), Samsung A900 "Blade" & Samsung SPH-M620 "Upstage" simultaneously (2 lines), Samsung Instinct & Samsung Upstage simultaneously (2 lines), Palm Pre & Palm Pixi simultaneously (2 lines), HTC Evo, HTC Arrive::::Verizon (since March 2012) - iPhone 4s, HP Pre3.....[S]Looking forward to going back[/S] Finally back to Windows Phone with the HTC 8x [S](iPhone 4s as work line, HP Pre3 to play with)[/S]...now on a Nokia Lumia Icon. Love my Gen 1 Surface RT!!
11-15-2012, 02:19 AM #45
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- 11-15-2012, 02:23 AM #46
This is hilarious. I remember threads and tons of them complaining about how crap and restrictive Zune software was and why we can't have drag and drop. MSFT gave drag and drop and burnt that Zune down. Now we have people missing that software more than those happy with drag and drop. I feel for ya MSFT! ;-)
btw, got my phone last night. Took me 4 minutes 12 seconds in total from plugging my phone, opening WP app on W8 and getting 650 DRM'd Xbox Music songs on my Lumia 920 and 302 photos from my old Titan onto Lumia, using WP app on W8.
So, I am yet to face this frustration you guys have been talking about.
- 11-15-2012, 06:21 AM #47
This might sound weird but if you have access to a mac use iTunes on the mac and the mac windows phone software. I was surprised that it works a lot better on the mac then it does on windows 7 or windows 8.
I ended up using the mac software to get all my iTunes somngs and playlists to the phone then use windows media player to sync up the rest to the 920.
- 11-15-2012, 09:22 AM #48
I was able to get everything synced via drag and drop on the desktop. It did work fairly well but with the need to convert files from Mp4a format to WMA format, it took a very long time, as in most of a day, to get it done. As of now, it does seem to be synced up properly.My smartphone history.