12-02-2012, 03:22 PM #27
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I don't know why you would care about word of mouth on WP8 so much. Regardless, u are correct that the phone should work as advertised. Try a hard reset and see if it helps. Now as a warning the one issue I did have with my L920 was when I reset back to factory. It got stuck on the reset screen and wouldn't reboot. But there is a fix for it if it does happen.
- 12-02-2012, 03:27 PM #29
- 12-02-2012, 03:30 PM #30
- 12-02-2012, 03:36 PM #31
Look, every phone model and OS has problems. What's going to cause more problems than the issues themselves is when people hold on to bad phones and complain about them instead of taking them back and getting them addressed.
- 12-02-2012, 03:40 PM #32
- 12-02-2012, 03:42 PM #33
Although I'm keeping my Lumia because I enjoy the fluidity of the OS, I cannot at this point recommend a WP8 based phone to anyone that I know unless they like to "tinker" with their phone.
How awful is it when every time someone asks me how I like my new Windows phone I tell them it is great BUT...is it ever good when you have to epilogue it with various issues that have been experienced?
As I have stated before...EVERY OS has issues/bugs and I expected a certain amount of problems when trying to switch from iOS to WP8 BUT, a new kernel/new OS or whatever, is no excuse for the music sync and music player not to work properly at launch. Everyone I know uses their smartphone as an music player even if they have an iPod just so they don't have to always carry multiple devices around and the broken music sync/player is a huge issue.
The broken music sync/player situation hurts anyone that is trying to transition from iOS and/or anyone that has used iTunes to 'RIP' their music collection as I know unequivocally that I am not the only one who's phone cannot "see" their music once it has been moved over to the phone that has purchased music from iTunes or has used iTunes to 'RIP' their music collection...and no it is not a DRM issue as I have no DRM'd songs in my library.
...and for anyone to state "nothing to see here...move along" is just BS - there are issues with WP8
Last edited by AZBrowncoat; 12-02-2012 at 04:01 PM. Reason: fixed grammer
12-02-2012, 03:42 PM #34
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I'll give you the music app and sync experience - though that doesn't as much seem like stability issues as just plain poor design and missed opportunities. It also feels, unfortunately, like something that hurts those of us who came from WP7 and Zune music collection management more than newer users who weren't used to that (near perfect imo) experience.
Otherwise, I have to report my Lumia 920 has been behaving perfectly. Truly, my single complaint about the entire experience is Microsoft's music app - in every other category I can find nothing to complain about.
- 12-02-2012, 03:43 PM #35
- 12-02-2012, 03:49 PM #38
- 12-02-2012, 03:50 PM #39
All phones have issues at launch from android to IOS, it seems like some people in this forum make it sound like WP is the only os with issues, I've experienced freezing, random shut off, battery drains, reception issues on many android and iPhone devices. No company can test as effectively as the general public. Most of the time when there is a issue it's not do to rushed software, but the actual hardware running it. There is no best phone or os, only the best phone for you.
- 12-02-2012, 03:59 PM #41
- 12-02-2012, 04:04 PM #42
I have activated two 822's (previously had a Trophy) and while I agree that the syncing of music is not as good as WP7, it is workable. I had "activation issues" on one and had to call Verizon and they activated it manually. The other activated itself. When you have a 4G device on Verizon, it takes 20-30 minutes to get going on the network. It's just the way it is.
As far as not opening core apps, that is certainly a problem, but it is not one I have read about on these forums and I am on here every day.
Exactly what problems are you having with texting and email?
I'm sorry your experience has been negative, but especially with the 822, I think it is the exception.
12-02-2012, 04:11 PM #44
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- 12-02-2012, 04:18 PM #46
If they don't have anything invested in either platform (switching to a smartphone) or they don't have a significant investment in either platform I suggest to them only to look at WP8 if their music is all MP3 files but if they have predominately AAC files I suggest that they get an iPhone.
I'd love to be able to tell them without reservation that WP8 is solid...but it is simply not.
Microsoft's only chance at this point with WP8 is to "build a better mousetrap" which so far they have not done, so they need to fix the software problems and count on synergies that can be built between Windows Phone 8, Windows 8 and Xbox to capture market share, but if enough users have a negative experience with WP8 and negative word-of-mouth spreads than WP8 will join the Kin and Zune in the scrapheap.
- 12-02-2012, 04:19 PM #47
Interestinly enough she asked about certain apps that are not available for WP & I told her that the OS is new & that their would be more apps in the coming months she was total ok with it. I pointed her to some WP apps with the same functionality & she was good to go.
- 12-02-2012, 04:31 PM #48
But it's clear that some people haven't been so lucky, and some have run into problems in the show-stopper range. In at least some cases, replacing the phone clears things up, so that might solve the problem. And, as some have suggested, your daughter may need some help getting over the initial transition to a new phone and operating system. The 822 won't do everything an iPhone can do, but it can do things the iPhone can't. My wife and kids all have iPhones, and I'm the tech consultant on my wife's phone (believe me, she needed a lot of help making the transition from an aging Palm Pre). But when it came time to buy a new phone for myself, after a brief Android fling I jumped to the Nokia. I'm very happy with the choice.
- 12-02-2012, 04:37 PM #49
MS needs to make sure their OS new kernal or not, new hardware or not, has fewer not the same amount or more issues than the leading iphone & droids. Droid has made that pretty easy with all the issues they have & Apple is stumbling more lately...
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