View Poll Results: Does it disappoint you that Windows Phone doesn't have all the legacy Microsoft smartphone features
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- 12-07-2012, 06:11 PM #1
In case you guys weren't aware, Microsoft has been making smartphones since the year 2000, 7 years before the iPhone came out. It had TONS of features to compete with the featureset of Symbian, Blackberry, and Palm Treo.
I can see why Google and Apple don't have all the features of those smartphones since they entered the smartphone market late, but why is Microsoft not putting the 12 years of features they've had in all those mobile platforms into Windows Phone? Where's the separate volumes? Where's the notification center? Where's the advanced email functionality? Why can't I directly attach a PDF to an email in WP8?
Is anybody out there old enough to remember that Microsoft was rolling out stylus-based smartphones WAYYYYY before the iPhone? Why are all those features suddenly gone? Why has Windows Phone been out for 2 years already and Microsoft still hasn't put those 12 years of legacy smartphone features into Windows Phone? Don't you guys think that Windows Phone could take off so much faster if Microsoft took advantage of those 12 years of features and rolled out the most feature packed smartphone on the market, making both iPhone and Android look like toys in comparison?
Where's all of this?
Seriously, guys, why are we suddenly ok with a company who has made advanced smartphones for 12 years suddenly roll out a smartphone with very few legacy smartphone features the same way Apple did with the iPhone?
Last edited by Byzantium; 12-07-2012 at 09:19 PM.
- 12-07-2012, 06:25 PM #4
I understand the UI is modern, but functionality is another thing.
I want Windows Phone to do well for the sake of competition, but recently I realized that Microsoft should have blown iPhone and Android away with their 7 year headstart with legacy smartphones like the HP iPAQ and they just aren't doing it. Why? Seriously. Why does Microsoft get a pass at ditching their legacy features as if they never existed?
- 12-07-2012, 06:29 PM #5
...because in the long run, Windows Mobile was a failure. Who wants to identify their shiny, sleek, awesome new product with a line of failures?
If Windows Mobile and all its features were really so awesome, the wPhone would have people lining up for miles to get the newest version every other year or so. But no, people are doing that for the iPhone.
- 12-07-2012, 06:37 PM #7
You can have a fresh approach to the smartphone while still using the decade of experience to make a platform that is both easy to use and has everything people need to get the most out of their purchase.
Microsoft had the opportunity to roll out a smartphone that made the iPhone and Android phones look like a joke since they've been in the business for only 5 years and Microsoft has 12 years of catering to power users, IT people, enterprise users, etc, but Microsoft isn't rolling out that device. Why?
- 12-07-2012, 06:39 PM #8
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- 12-07-2012, 06:44 PM #10
Seriously, its 2012 and Windows Phone doesn't have things like separate volume controls, yet back in 2005, Windows Mobile 5 had separate volume controls.
Why would Microsoft gimp itself when it could easily make the competition look like kid's toys? They should be wiping the floor with the iPhone especially, but there's still more people buying the iPhone, even after 2 years of Windows Phone.
- 12-07-2012, 06:47 PM #11
Accusations of fanboyism in 5... 4... 3... 2...
- 12-07-2012, 06:47 PM #12
The current start screen is still as customizable and can show even more information than that start screen in the OP. Only difference is back then, the more stuff that was on that start screen the slower the device performed and to me that's a step ahead. With WP8 now on the NT kernel the possibilities are now limitless but gotta start somewhere. That being said its a little unfair to compare something that's on a new kernel for ARM devices to something that's been exhausted in capabilities long before WP.
- 12-07-2012, 06:52 PM #13
12-07-2012, 06:53 PM #14
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In case you weren't aware, Windows Phone 7 came out in 2010 and we had all the discussion about WM vs WP then. So I'm not really sure why this tired debate is coming up again. I assume it's purely to troll. It's been two years. Either stick with WP, jump ship, or whip out your HD2. Don't know what else to tell you.
12-07-2012, 07:00 PM #15
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I dont see why some people get so defensive when it comes to the WP OS. To bulk at those who think some good features should be available on WP8, just because it is noted that even Windows Mobile had some of these features, is just silly and comes off as very defensive.
The comment about more features getting in your way was just classic....in a I cant believe you actually said that sort of way. Perhaps you dont care for more features, some that shouldve been there from day one, doesnt mean many others dont care. I dont really think theyd get in your way either, Im sure you can just ignore them....but of course if they were there, I bet youd take full advantage.
- 12-07-2012, 07:00 PM #16
12-07-2012, 07:36 PM #18
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Ok this might be a little out of topic but Some people don't understand that in order to move forward you have to kill some stuff that even if it worked out in the past doesn't mean that is going to work well in the present or future because of compatibility. Example, Windows Vista was a failure but it was the base to create Windows 7 which was successful. XP was successful and is old but is still being use all over the world everywhere you go. Microsoft is going to kill XP in a year or two and it was very good for them and generated a lot of revenue. Why kill it?
As a IT student recently graduated i can tell you that everything is moving forward and in order to be successful and be within the time you have to leave certain stuff in the past. They made me memorize how to do subneting in the mind , when you go to the work field you use a calculator. Ahhh Technology always moving forward at an accelerated pace.
- 12-07-2012, 07:37 PM #19
Would it be to simple to point to their change in architecture...WP7 was a nearly built from the ground up. Alot of those mobile api's simply didn't cary over or likely wasn't compatible. They switched out the core to windows so maybe many of those features will come back over the years.
- 12-07-2012, 08:07 PM #20
Actually I feel like I'm more productive on my HD7 (and will be even more so when I get my 8X) than I ever was on my TP2, and Dell Axim X51v. To be fair there are also a number of features that iPhone lacks that WP has and is exactly why I would never get an iPhone.
- 12-07-2012, 08:22 PM #21
I was a big wm fan back those many years ago and found myself very disappointed with the new wp8. I personally liked the old UI and its more varied functionality, not to even mention the total customizations that could be done with different roms. I also completely understand microsofts need to modernize and that's what they did in trying to compete with the likes of the iPhone. I was planning on getting a WP device but after checking it out pretty thoroughly I've decided to pass on it. I'm not putting w8 on my computer either tho. Just me, old school functionality all the way. ;)
- 12-07-2012, 08:26 PM #22
They added something like 200+ features since WM, and you're complaining about 4 that didn't make the cut?
You're acting like a Windows Phone is crippled or something. Volume control. Blah.
- 12-07-2012, 08:55 PM #23
- 12-07-2012, 08:58 PM #24
Do you not see anything wrong with that? Why are you ok with the gimping of functionality when the software maker is by no means a stranger to the smartphone market and is losing the competition against absolute newcomers?
- 12-07-2012, 09:03 PM #25
What I want is for Microsoft to make a serious effort at giving their Windows Phone userbase the features that they had in their earlier iterations of a mobile OS. As we can see from their offerings for the past 2 years, this is simply not the case. People should have basic things like separate volume controls in their mobile OS as well as the many other things that have been left behind.(For what it's worth? I *am* a new adopter and I don't feel limited in any way, shape, or form.)
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