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  • Yes, they will.

    20 38.46%
  • No, they won't.

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  • They will do something new and different so they don't undermine the Tiles

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  1. Byzantium's Avatar
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    I know a lot of people aren't going to like this, but...... I don't think Microsoft will ever give WP users a notification center, simply because it makes Live Tiles seem rather useless in comparison.

    Microsoft has been really banking on Live Tiles as being what makes Windows Phone unique and if they were to suddenly add a Notification Center, people would start to stop looking at their Tiles and instead swipe down from the top of the screen like they do with the other platforms and those big tiles would start looking like well...a big waste of space.

    The only way for Microsoft to get out of this branding conundrum is to innovate and create something as unique as Live Tiles which performs the same function as a Notification Center without making it surpass the so-called "glance and go" Microsoft touts with their Live Tiles.
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    They have allready said that they are making it. They just didn't have time to finish it when wp8 came out.
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    +1000 A notification center has never been an issue to me, and I have used all 3 OS. I actually found it annoying on iOS and android, especially if I didn't check it for a while and had to scroll thru pages of notifications. On WP7/8 I can see at a glance if i have a new message, email, missed call, whatever on my lockscreen, and a quick tap of the appropriate tile gives me the info I need.
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    I get what your saying, but having an Apps live tile also show you a history of its notifications may not be the most efficient way of tracking notifications. That scenario would work if you have one or two apps pinned that receive notifications, but if you have a few of such Apps, then it becomes a chore to go into each live tile and see the notifications. One place for all missed notification is much easier and convenient for the user. Maybe they have a better idea, which I would totally 100% support, but it has to make sense and make it easy for the user. The concept should not just be different for the sake of being different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byzantium View Post
    I know a lot of people aren't going to like this, but...... I don't think Microsoft will ever give WP users a notification center, simply because it makes Live Tiles seem rather useless in comparison.

    Microsoft has been really banking on Live Tiles as being what makes Windows Phone unique and if they were to suddenly add a Notification Center, people would start to stop looking at their Tiles and instead swipe down from the top of the screen like they do with the other platforms and those big tiles would start looking like well...a big waste of space.

    The only way for Microsoft to get out of this branding conundrum is to innovate and create something as unique as Live Tiles which performs the same function as a Notification Center without making it surpass the so-called "glance and go" Microsoft touts with their Live Tiles.
    You definitely seem to be a new crew member. If you were here few weeks back, there was a story on this too. Notification center IS COMING.
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    Live tiles aren't just about notifications, though. I don't use my Groupon, Failbook, Weather, People, Alarms, Calendar, Urban Dictionary, Music, or Pictures tile for notifications at all. They're used for deeper information than just another. Even the WPCentral on its flip side gives deep information. A notification center and live tiles can easily coexist. In fact, I think a notification center would push developers to make better live tiles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockstarzzz View Post
    You definitely seem to be a new crew member. If you were here few weeks back, there was a story on this too. Notification center IS COMING.
    Yeah one guy from Microsoft said they didn't have time, but I don't buy that. They've had 2 years to make one since WP7 came out. I think what is actually happening is that they're still trying to come up with a way to centralize notifications in a manner that doesn't seem....redundant.

    I mean if you look at the Windows Phone 8 UI it pretty much already looks like one big notification center except it has a flaw where if you don't put all the tiles you need on your homescreen you lose those notifications.
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    Your poll doesn't match your subject question. :)

    Yes, I believe that adding a notification center will undermine live tiles to a certain degree. At least... the way I use live tiles it will. But I don't think that's going to stop Microsoft from putting in some sort of a notification center, whether that's a swipe-in-from-the-top-or-side kinda thing, a notification center app which has a live tile all it's own, or something else entirely. It's documented that Microsoft said they were going to put one in but ran out of time; the fact there wasn't one in WP7 is irrelevant given that WP8 and WP7 are different OS's (albeit they have similar UIs and the ability to run the same apps. Mostly. Heh.)
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    YES! Another Notification Center thread! If I respond to one more I win a kewpie doll! Quick, somebody start another one. :)


    For some reason I never, ever use the iOS one, but I use the **** out of the Android one. Weird, eh? Anyway, I hate getting a bunch of ESPN toasts then not having anywhere to go to figure out what it was for.... Maybe I follow too many teams. Haha.
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    I have a feeling that Microsoft is going to pull a Meego and have notifications appear when you swipe to the left, which Meego called "Events view" as you can see in this video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...oNlsY_40#t=41s
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    Quote Originally Posted by tk-093 View Post
    YES! Another Notification Center thread! If I respond to one more I win a kewpie doll! Quick, somebody start another one. :)


    For some reason I never, ever use the iOS one, but I use the **** out of the Android one. Weird, eh? Anyway, I hate getting a bunch of ESPN toasts then not having anywhere to go to figure out what it was for.... Maybe I follow too many teams. Haha.
    If you follow so many teams, surely ESPN is a big part of your life. Why won't you pin that? Imagine "Meet tk-093 and this is his Windows Phone" followed by no ESPN tile shown!! Go on PIN IT! ;)
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    I read most of the posts in here concerning a notification center, and I have not seen anything definitive indicating that a notification center is on the way. All I have read is that MS ran out of time, and they were giving it some serious consideration. If someone has seen something definitive from MS that a notiification center was going to be included in some future update, could they post it here? That would be much appreciated. Until then it's just a rumor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockstarzzz View Post
    If you follow so many teams, surely ESPN is a big part of your life. Why won't you pin that? Imagine "Meet tk-093 and this is his Windows Phone" followed by no ESPN tile shown!! Go on PIN IT! ;)
    I have an ESPN tile along with 3 seperate team tiles pinned (the team ones are from the Nokia ESPN app) but they don't really do anything.
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    I don't think a notification center would undermine live tiles... but I have never felt the need for live tiles. Up until yesterday I also carried an Android phone and I would just constantly clear the notification bar because my OCD side got annoyed if there is any notification. I don't have an iPhone, but on my iPad I never use the notification drop down.

    I am indifferent, and understand that its useful to some people, I just hope it isnt ugly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sullibr01 View Post
    I read most of the posts in here concerning a notification center, and I have not seen anything definitive indicating that a notification center is on the way. All I have read is that MS ran out of time, and they were giving it some serious consideration. If someone has seen something definitive from MS that a notiification center was going to be included in some future update, could they post it here? That would be much appreciated. Until then it's just a rumor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tk-093 View Post
    I have an ESPN tile along with 3 seperate team tiles pinned (the team ones are from the Nokia ESPN app) but they don't really do anything.
    Where do your toasts go? Isn't there any tile count? If not, it's super rubbish considering Nokia did that app!
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    If you go do a quick bing/google search, you can find the screenshot of the notification center that MS plans on implementing.
    Quote Originally Posted by rockstarzzz View Post
    If you follow so many teams, surely ESPN is a big part of your life. Why won't you pin that? Imagine "Meet tk-093 and this is his Windows Phone" followed by no ESPN tile shown!! Go on PIN IT! ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhguth View Post
    I don't think a notification center would undermine live tiles... but I have never felt the need for live tiles. Up until yesterday I also carried an Android phone and I would just constantly clear the notification bar because my OCD side got annoyed if there is any notification. I don't have an iPhone, but on my iPad I never use the notification drop down.

    I am indifferent, and understand that its useful to some people, I just hope it isnt ugly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1jaxstate1 View Post
    If you go do a quick bing/google search, you can find the screenshot of the notification center that MS plans on implementing.
    Why you no quote the right person? :s
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    Been using wp8 since it came out, and I don't really miss notification centre at all...I have all my info on my live tiles..
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockstarzzz View Post
    If you follow so many teams, surely ESPN is a big part of your life. Why won't you pin that? Imagine "Meet tk-093 and this is his Windows Phone" followed by no ESPN tile shown!! Go on PIN IT! ;)
    The ESPN tile doesn't give any indication of the toasts you receive. They are separate all together. For example, I have my ESPN app set to give me toast notifications of news events of my favorite teams, plus score updates. If one of those toasts comes in and I miss it, it's gone forever. No record of it, no live tile notifications, nothing. Pinning live tiles isn't always the answer unfortunately.
    Some might argue that's a developer error. Then I might ask, what if my ESPN tile had a little "3" in the corner, and it flipped to give me a summary of the last toast received? How does that help me with the other 2 I missed? A notification list in the app itself? Then why not an aggregate of all notifications the phone gets, aka a notification center?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockstarzzz View Post
    Where do your toasts go? Isn't there any tile count? If not, it's super rubbish considering Nokia did that app!
    They don't go to a Notification Center, that's for sure. :)

    I only use the Nokia app to pin individual teams to my home screen, mainly because it looks cool. The toasts I have setup are using the standard ESPN Scorecenter app. They don't go anywhere. If I miss one I can launch the ESPN app and then find the list of my teams and see what's going on, but it would be much easier and a lot quicker to swipe into a Notification Center and see them there.

    Somewhat unrelated is there are no custom toast sounds. The thing that was sweet about the iOS score center app was for their toasts, it would play the ESPN jingle when one came in. Just a cool feature.
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    No, end of discussion. The omission of a Notification Center is a design flaw that must be addressed.

    What's the point of debating this? In a year (hopefully) when WP has a properly implemented Notification center nobody will ever say "do we need this?". If you don't want to use it, don't use it. But I guarantee you that everybody will use it.

    And Microsoft has already confirmed that they are working on it, so all we can do now is wait (and then wait some more).
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    Quote Originally Posted by sullibr01 View Post
    If someone has seen something definitive from MS that a notiification center was going to be included in some future update, could they post it here? That would be much appreciated. Until then it's just a rumor.
    Hmm. Looks like you're right. Going back and re-reading the original post on the matter (at least, the original post from my POV - Microsoft admits it 'ran out of time' on Windows Phone 8 notification center | The Verge), they admit to running out of time and state that they've gotten a lot of requests and are thinking strongly on the issue. But nothing actually definite.
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    It won't be what the other os's have. It will be a "toast archive". Though will be similar in practice.
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