- 12-15-2012, 09:01 PM #76
Target figured out that a 16 year-old girl was pregnant before her father knew. How Target Figured Out A Teen Girl Was Pregnant Before Her Father Did - Forbes
Google isn't any worse than other companies in terms of privacy.http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/ma...pagewanted=all
- 12-15-2012, 09:05 PM #77
You guys do realize that Microsoft gives you a lot of free services that you don't pay for (aka you are the product) and that Bing has similar privacy issues as Google, right?
There is no privacy when you use a smartphone or cloud services in general.
- 12-15-2012, 11:09 PM #78
Although every platform has privacy issues, the difference between Microsoft and Google couldn't be more different. Microsoft will never sell the data it collects to anyone (read their license agreements), and as a result of that they also collect much less.
- 12-15-2012, 11:32 PM #80
That Target figured out a teen girl was pregnant before her father did doesn't surprise me in the least. That is actually quite low tech stuff compared to what is possible. I've worked on some of these systems myself. One system tracks down stolen credit cards or cell phones, simply based on behavioural patterns, such as how telephone numbers are dialled, the purchases that are made, or to whom calls are placed. Success rates were extremely high whilst spitting out zero false positives. I thought that was impressive at the time, but it's child's play compared to what Google can put together based on behavioural patterns analysis.
- 12-15-2012, 11:44 PM #81
Read the user agreements for Google services and Microsoft services sometime. For the former, your eyes will be the size of soccer balls when you're finished.
- 12-15-2012, 11:44 PM #82
Of course 99% of consumers couldn't be bothered looking at the licensing agreements or even thinking about them. Consumers can stick their heads as deep into the sand as they wish, the differences won't go away.
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- 12-16-2012, 12:23 AM #85
You thought the Human CentiPad was bad? Wait until you see the Human Surface!
PS, looks like Gmail is falling apart already, now that proper sync services are gone:
Gmail wobbles again on Friday, fourth incident since late last week - Computerworld
- 12-16-2012, 07:55 AM #88
- 12-16-2012, 08:18 AM #90
Google collects data. Microsoft collects data.
Google sells data for ads. Microsoft uses data for it's own services.
Google won't make money without your data. Microsoft will make money by selling you something else, not selling your data.
Why would I be concerned about my privacy with Microsoft as much as I'm with Google?
At the end of the day, one company survives on selling your data to advertisers and the other company survives on selling you software and hardware. - it's that simple.
- 12-16-2012, 08:20 AM #91
- 12-16-2012, 08:35 AM #92
Do you really think that Microsoft will continue giving out web services like Skydrive, Calendar, Bing, Bing maps, Outlook mail, to anybody with any web browser until the end of time without doing something to keep the whole operation financially stable?
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- 12-16-2012, 09:30 AM #93
Lets stick to reality not speculation. To your point do you really think the majority of people will be happy with 7 gbs on Skydrive? No people will purchase more and guess what they can. You think Microsoft entered this game without a plan to make money? Seriously?! Bing, Bing Maps, Outlook all have advertising on the page. If you want like I did you can pay $20/year to opt out of advertising in Outlook. Rest assured Microsoft has ways of making money without selling your information in place now. Again they already collect data on some of these but if you like you can opt out.
12-16-2012, 09:54 AM #94
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- 12-16-2012, 09:57 AM #95
This isn't like Apple's system where you can only use their services like iCloud if you buy a relatively pricey Apple product. Microsoft is closer to the Google model of doing things, and as the userbase grows, so will the need for monetize the platform. Microsoft's model won't get as bad as Google's model, but it will very likely end up doing some of the same things that Google does, like collecting what kind of files and filenames you upload to the cloud.
- 12-16-2012, 10:10 AM #96
- 12-16-2012, 10:13 AM #98
The point being, Microsoft is a software giant, not an advertising giant. It wouldn't need to do that as long as it can make Windows and as long as it can make Xbox. The cloud, enterprise and PCs make so much money for Microsoft that advertising doesn't even matter. Look at Bing, how many years has that struggled? What has Microsoft done to make it a hit so far, nothing. It can make same revenue if it is used as much as Google. But Bing is there only to make sure Google doesn't eat it all.
- 12-16-2012, 10:43 AM #100
Back on topic... Google is truly trying to change the OS wars by limiting services available to WP. This can be good or bad depending on your preferences. Google fanboys wont like it when trying to adapt to WP life. For those who use Microsoft services this wont matter. When I started using Google Android devices I moved from WinMo I really hated the stranglehold Google had on the OS. You will use Gmail you will like it and that's that. Why shouldn't it be the same way on WP? I guess all the OS's are doing everything possible to make it hard to change platforms. Its the ecosystem wars I think Google is stepping up its game to try to stop the bleeding.
I have a Gmail account I use it for Spam and Youtube and that's it. If Microsoft would make a real competitor to Youtube I would gladly delete my Gmail account.
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