- 12-17-2012, 12:39 AM #51
So Microsoft is pushing out a defective update to unlocked device owners and doesn't want carrier-locked versions to get a defective update?
Seriously? That's the counter-argument?!?
- 12-17-2012, 03:57 AM #52
- 12-17-2012, 05:35 AM #53
If you don't like it... organise a 10'000'000 people strong protest to Redmond, blast open their doors and Windows (oh wow, I instinctively capitalised that), and then start complaining asking for better updates. Then, you might get noticed. Maybe for all the wrong reasons, but you'll get noticed nonetheless.
- 12-17-2012, 11:52 AM #58
As I said before, it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. The "why" of crap experience is less important than the fact that it is crap experience.
All consumers will care about is that Apple can deliver timely and reliable updates, and Microsoft can't.
- 12-17-2012, 11:54 AM #60
And an important note: it is the FIRST update on a NEW OS. Rolling out to a small test segment first is SMART. You're *****ing now? Imaging if the patch rolled out and it didn't work as expected... Or the update process itself had an error. MS is doing this the right way.
- 12-17-2012, 12:04 PM #61
Lets see the last update that apple rolled out that i downloaded was over 4 years ago bricked my iphone then had itunes stuck in some odd download loop. Had to reset and reload everything only for it to brick the phone again on its second attempt. Contract was almost up so switched to WP6.5, then WP7 a year later now im on WP8 two years later. Never had an issue with Windows phone updates bricking my phone so im still with WP and loving it. Please dont tell me that Apple get things right. They didnt back then and they still dont now.
Oh and just to rub salt in the wound as it were - I got my 8X update Friday morning. No more reboots, shutdowns or errors and the additional tweaks to the OS and the battery life are amazing
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- 12-17-2012, 12:48 PM #62
Glad your 8X works for you. Lots of other people need this fix yesterday. Telling them "deal with it until we decide to get it to you even though it is finished" isn't cool.
- 12-17-2012, 01:01 PM #63
You are right though in one respect once the unbranded 8X's were used as a testbed it should have been a global rollout not Europe first then other parts of the world to follow at some unspecified time. Its not a lot of help to you right now but the update will come and hopefully it solves your issues and improves your experience with your 8X
My original point however is that Apple are just as likely to mess things up as anyone else. Its only the media marketing and the reality distortion field that stops everyone noticing.
12-17-2012, 02:26 PM #64
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Never had a problem with my 8X before the update and after the update nothing changend on that part.
As for updates i could care less when it comes, as longs as it come.
If i want to cry about speeding things up its more like " 4 days to holiday,s season ? "
I dont mind to be a tester if thats the case , and if not, i dont mind that to.
Plan simple is to get the update that should works as it should ,no more,no less.
Peace and Greetz.
- 12-17-2012, 03:02 PM #65
- 12-17-2012, 10:05 PM #67
- 12-18-2012, 07:46 AM #68
Where did you get that conclusion from? Everyone wants update but they understannd it is not ready yet, especially with carriers still dragging the process. Don't be fooled by iOS updates. Apple just doesn't release updates early to anyone. They wait until carriers all approved before they announce and roll out. When you have near half of the smart phone market share, carriers tend to move things faster for you than the 1% WP phones.
- 12-20-2012, 11:39 AM #70
Sorry, guys, but Microsoft's update experience is the worst of any operating system on the market. Very bottom of the barrel.
iOS gets updates instantaneously, around the world.
Android Nexus devices get it within a few days.
BlackBerry devices get them OTA or downloaded, and BB10 will offer carrier-independent OTA on launch.
Microsoft? Still stuck in 1999.
Deny all you want, say it's wonderful that our devices don't get updates for weeks or months (depending on what carrier you're on), but the update experience for Windows Phone SUCKS. It's that bad, and it does the struggling-to-break-through OS no favors.
I don't see any point in rioting in front of Redmond over it -- rather, Microsoft needs to put some more thought into user experience and put the user first (rather than the carrier). Every other major ecosystem has already figured that out, and in a market this competitive, sub-par updating isn't going to cut it.
- 12-20-2012, 01:04 PM #73
Android devices that are not Nexus (IE, most of them), are lucky to ever see an update of any kind. Even Nexus isn't immune. Look at the trainwreck that was the Verizon Galaxy Nexus! What a joke!
iOS has it nailed down. But, they have no carrier ties, and produce both hardware and software in house, so they have an advantage. If Microsoft can manage to pull it together and develope a system akin to Windows Updates for the phones, it would be fantastic, but you know carriers want their fingers in the mix.
- 12-20-2012, 02:06 PM #75
How many Android devices never get updates?
Blackberry devices are LUCKY to get an update if their carrier ever gets around to it. AT&T has released a grand total of ONE update to OS7 for the BB9900. Rogers is the same for the 9810. These are the two flagship models.
Again, rolling out an update less than 2 months after launch is pretty impressive.
Now, to quote Gandalf...
"An update never arrives late. Nor is it early. It arrives precisely when it means to."
If that isn't good enough, go buy a freakin idroid already.
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