12-22-2012 12:12 PM
- There seems to be a lot of focus on third-party apps that are popular on iOS and Android, but I wonder where the popular apps from Microsoft are hiding.
* Skype - I'm not certain why this is stuck in beta when competing platforms have had updates to their already official apps. It is frustrating to have a buggy, battery draining app...FROM MICROSOFT...on my Microsoft powered phone. It's also behind in features; I can't even send a photo in an instant message.
* Photosynth - it's like deja vu' from my WP7 days; I can this great app in use on all other platforms, but it is nowhere to be found on my platform. Again, both the app and the left out platform are owned by Microsoft, so it doesn't really make sense.
Those are the two biggest (and most embarrassing) omissions from Windows Phone 8, at this point. There are also apps that I think Microsoft should make that do not exist, like:
* Basic Video Editing - both Android and iPhone have basic editing apps. I don't want a full on NLE on my phone, but I would like to trim the clips at the front and back. I'd also like to be able to add some text over the video and on a title page. Taking still pictures and making slideshows would be great along with the ability to put a voiceover or music track on the project.12-20-2012 08:31 AM
Huh.12-20-2012 08:49 AM
huh...indeed12-20-2012 09:14 AMLike 1
- * Basic Video Editing - both Android and iPhone have basic editing apps. I don't want a full on NLE on my phone, but I would like to trim the clips at the front and back. I'd also like to be able to add some text over the video and on a title page. Taking still pictures and making slideshows would be great along with the ability to put a voiceover or music track on the project.
See, everyone who has a complaint about Windows Phone 8? This guy has an idea, a valid criticism, without bashing or being a a d*ck about it. I wish everyone who posted on this forum could make suggestions that are rational and make sense like you did.12-20-2012 09:18 AMLike 2
- I can certainly understand your frustration, but you need to realize that Photosynth and Skype are managed by dedicated development teams. Yes, they belong to the Microsoft division, but they have their product priorities that focus on the betterment of their respective products. They are working on the WP8 version, and should have it out shortly. I also don't think they received the SDK any earlier just because they are part of the same company. Even if they did receive it earlier, the development needs to get slotted into their timelines, priorities and development schedules. For them, WP8 is another platform to support, and they assign resources to it as it fits their overall project goals.12-20-2012 09:20 AM
You should really apply some critical thought before you turn into a green rage monster over it.12-20-2012 09:22 AM
- This is simple. They've had years to develop for other platforms without a totally revolutionary change. WP8 is really entirely new, and its been complete for just a few months. These things will all be fine.
Personally, I wish Microsoft had never released WP7... and just skipped to immediately develop what became WP8.12-20-2012 09:39 AM
Look, dude, it's great that you have the patience of Job when it comes to Microsoft. But the cold, hard reality is that iOS and Android have ecosystems that are mature and relatively free of compromise. We all love WP here for whatever reason (I love the UI and the overall aesthetic) but that doesn't mean we have to ignore the shortcomings and feature/app omissions that currently exist.12-20-2012 09:54 AM
iPhone had a luxury of being first, WP needs to push the bar, not drag it.12-20-2012 10:09 AM
- 12-20-2012 10:19 AM
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- 12-20-2012 10:27 AMLike 2
Microsoft raised a few bars with a dedicated camera button (which iOS later sort of copied), live tiles, a near chromeless interface, integrated facebook and messenger chat (before others had it), earlier recognition of the importance of facebook integration/sharing... and now kid's corner. You can't raise all bars similtaneously. Some things will be superior to competition, others inferior... developers only have so much time. Rome wasn't built in a day.
Every parent I've shown kids corner considers it a VERY compelling feature... but you don't cry about how inferior iOS and android are for lacking it.12-20-2012 10:32 AM
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- My two cents:
Maybe WP8 is new and with the late SDK other developers are probably working on new apps. However Microsoft isn't a third party developer, they should have had applications and games out that showcase their OS. Apple did that with iMovie, iPhoto or GarageBand, which are amazing apps. Microsoft could also have funded at least one game of Infinity Blade's calibre, they're wasting the Xbox Live brand on casual games (some very good mind you). I've played Infinity Blade and it's boring after 10 minutes but still, whenever people see it for the 1st time, they think "I need an iPhone". No Microsoft application or game gives you that feeling.12-20-2012 01:42 PM
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- 12-20-2012 01:59 PM
- Meh, not enough. OneNote is on other platforms, Office is going the same way soon and built-in social networking has been done by some OEMs before (maybe not as well but still). Believe it or not, "fun" apps attract people way more than productivity apps. If you offer OneNote and say GarageBand, I'm pretty sure the latter will be way more popular.12-20-2012 02:08 PM
- I do agree that Skype could have been a good app to have release with WP8 already completed and out of beta, especially since it's owned by microsoft. you would have gaming, audio/voice calling, and music all ready to go from launch, which would seem logical.
BUT, like people have said, I'm sure (hopefully?) that they tried to do this12-20-2012 02:23 PM
Not arguing, just talking. :)12-20-2012 02:37 PM
You are right though, that's not eye candy enough to grab non technical people's attention like a cool game. However, the Xbox integration will get many casual gamers and users to go to WP8 and will surely keep getting better. It's really fun to have that full Xbox live experience (of which I am brand new in). Didn't they recently report that something like 70 million xboxes have been sold? That's a lot of casual user mindshare to leverage!
MS has been in gaming way longer than apple, those 'wow' games are surely coming!12-20-2012 03:33 PM
- Ok. FWIW, it was for me. I've spent most of my life as an anti-Microsoft guy forced to work in a Microsoft world. Whenever possible I've pushed for alternate desktops (Ubuntu, OS X, whatever), alternate servers (Linux, predominately, and while I could get away with it on web- and fileservers I've never been able to push Exchange and Active Directory out of the way), and *ANYTHING* but Windows Mobile. I started thinking differently with WP7, but Windows 8 Professional and Windows Phone 8 converted me... all on what you're saying is "not enough".
Not arguing, just talking. :)12-20-2012 05:04 PM
- ...who just had to push and focus their energies on getting the OS itself out. Also, please note this from the Skype website: "Founded in 2003 and headquartered in Luxembourg, Skype is a division of Microsoft Corp. (NASDAQ: MSFT)." It's not like Skype is in the office next to the WP OS team; for all intents and purposes they're just a third-party developer with a "in" at Microsoft because Microsoft owns them.
You should really apply some critical thought before you turn into a green rage monster over it.12-21-2012 09:55 PM
- I'm not much of a gamer (Wordament is about as gamey as I get and I'm not very good, heh) so I'll take your word about a lack of games. However, for apps that make the platform shine... Office? OneNote? The People hub with built-in social networking? Those are the apps that made me go, "whoa... maybe I should give WP a serious look."12-21-2012 10:02 PM
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