1. brmiller1976's Avatar
    The 8X is being presented as "the perfect phone for size, power and apps" by two of the stores I went into recently.

    The 810 is being pushed as a "budget performer."

    Overall, the 8X is getting equal billing with the GS 3, and the 810 is being presented as an alternative to the GS 2.

    Not bad at all.
    thekonger likes this.
    12-27-2012 05:32 PM
  2. eric12341's Avatar
    That's great to hear, the T-mobile store I bought my 8X from had a dedicated Windows section with live phones out to play with (a first for a T-mobile store).
    12-27-2012 05:52 PM
  3. socialcarpet's Avatar
    Good news. I'm happy to hear it. T-Mobile seemed to make some effort to promote the Lumia 710 when the first got it too and I've always felt they deserved kudos for that.
    12-27-2012 06:54 PM
  4. Optimus82's Avatar
    810 as a budget performer lol. Only thing separating the Lumia 8xx, 920 and 8x is camera and resolution.
    12-27-2012 07:15 PM
  5. brmiller1976's Avatar
    810 is thicker, lower res, and has less built-in storage. It's also cheaper, hence the "810 as budget performer." Its resolution and capability is compared roughly to the GS II, which I think is appropriate.

    I suspect the only reason T-Mo is selling the 810 is because of its fairly long relationship with Nokia... Nokia skipped over T-Mo for any high-range phones, despite the fact that T-Mo kept selling Nokia Symbian devices (like the Nuron) long after the other three major carriers kicked them out. I'm still trying to figure out why Verizon sells the 822... maybe because Nokia decided to make it look just like one of the ugly old Android handsets of yore? ;)

    Anyway, if it sells more Windows Phones, I'm all for it.

    I also heard a little rumor that T-Mo and Samsung are going to be announcing some Windows Phone goodness in January. T-Mo is definitely on board as a hard-core WP pusher (at least until they get the next Apple device).
    12-27-2012 09:30 PM
  6. Optimus82's Avatar
    Same processor, same amount of ram.

    The gs2 has an older s3 processor that doesn't match the performance of the snapdragon s4 found in the lumias and 8x.

    The only reason the Lumia 920 is marketed as a high end wp8 is because of the camera.

    Resolution? Who cares. This is wp8. Unlike android devices, you can almost not tell the difference unless you look closely.

    Don't let the marketing fool you. Just like HTC advertises the one x as a high end android device and the T-Mobile one s as a midrange android device only because of screen size.
    12-27-2012 09:45 PM
  7. eric12341's Avatar
    810 as a budget performer lol. Only thing separating the Lumia 8xx, 920 and 8x is camera and resolution.
    The 8X also has a dedicated amp for sound processing, the 810 just uses the integrated audio on the S4 chip.
    Same processor, same amount of ram.

    The gs2 has an older s3 processor that doesn't match the performance of the snapdragon s4 found in the lumias and 8x.

    The only reason the Lumia 920 is marketed as a high end wp8 is because of the camera.

    Resolution? Who cares. This is wp8. Unlike android devices, you can almost not tell the difference unless you look closely.

    Don't let the marketing fool you. Just like HTC advertises the one x as a high end android device and the T-Mobile one s as a midrange android device only because of screen size.
    There is a difference between the display quality of an SD screen and an HD screen. I sometimes pick up my HD7 for comparison and its so painful after looking at my 8X.
    12-27-2012 10:23 PM
  8. Optimus82's Avatar
    Have u compared the hd7 screen to the Lumia 810\822 screen? Different screen tech. Hd7 was a horrible phone
    12-27-2012 10:25 PM
  9. brmiller1976's Avatar
    The Lumia 810/820/822 screen is gorgeous compared to an Arrive or a Venue Pro, but it's pretty chunky and lo-res-looking when compared with an 8X or 920 -- especially when it comes to rendered text.
    12-27-2012 10:41 PM
  10. WPmunkey's Avatar
    Have u compared the hd7 screen to the Lumia 810\822 screen? Different screen tech. Hd7 was a horrible phone
    Former HD7 owner here. The HD7 was not horrible. The screen was not very bright, the power/sleep/wake button was mushy, and the speaker wasn't loud. But that's all the cons, overall a great phone. Never let me down.
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    12-27-2012 10:42 PM
  11. adamjamess's Avatar
    All carriers are pushing wp8 because they want to battle the costs of subsidizing Iphones.

    And wp8 is simple enough for people to get behind that they hope they'll choose it over Iphones.


    Posted from my Verizon Employee Edition DROID DNA #01749.
    12-27-2012 10:47 PM
  12. ny_yankees's Avatar
    Good to hear
    12-27-2012 10:50 PM
  13. brmiller1976's Avatar
    If iPhone 5 sales are as poor as the press seems to be suggesting (with orders being reduced), Apple may be forced to lower prices.
    12-27-2012 11:51 PM
  14. rdubmu's Avatar
    If iPhone 5 sales are as poor as the press seems to be suggesting (with orders being reduced), Apple may be forced to lower prices.
    I doubt it
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    12-28-2012 12:11 AM
  15. brmiller1976's Avatar
    Apple's getting hammered by Android. That's not necessarily good news for WP World, but Apple's got to get their pricing stabilized, or they'll get their lunch eaten.

    Right now, they have some of the lowest costs of any player in tech because of their crazy supply chain and buying power. They've got plenty of margin they can sacrifice for volume. But right now, they've cut orders for Q1 from 30 to 35 million down to 20 to 25 million.

    The channel is also chock-full of iPhone 4 and 4S handsets, something I noticed back when they were posting "record sales." The carriers are going to have to disgorge all those 4-series iPhones somehow. I don't think the Virgin Mobile 4S is doing too well, either, mostly because of price.
    12-28-2012 02:36 AM
  16. kresbeatz's Avatar
    In Budapest I saw a lot of ads of Lumia 920/820 and 8X in T-Mobile stores!
    12-28-2012 02:56 AM
  17. tavogus's Avatar
    Well, good thing is providers are promoting wp8
    Sent from my Windows Phone 8X by HTC using Board Express
    12-28-2012 03:03 AM
  18. socialcarpet's Avatar
    If iPhone 5 sales are as poor as the press seems to be suggesting (with orders being reduced), Apple may be forced to lower prices.
    You have a source for these alleged "poor" iPhone5 sales?
    12-29-2012 10:08 AM
  19. socialcarpet's Avatar
    810 as a budget performer lol. Only thing separating the Lumia 8xx, 920 and 8x is camera and resolution.
    And 32 GB of internal memory & 4G LTE vs. 8 GB and HSPA...

    But yeah I agree the 810 isn't a "budget" phone at all.
    12-29-2012 10:14 AM
  20. socialcarpet's Avatar
    The only reason the Lumia 920 is marketed as a high end wp8 is because of the camera.
    And the 32 GB of RAM and 4G LTE and much nicer build quality, but yeah. The replaceable battery and SD card on the 810 are nice features too. The 810 is much more pocketable too. I came close to getting a 8xx, if not for the resolution I may very well have done it. Nice phone.



    Resolution? Who cares. This is wp8.
    Stop staring at tiles and actually open a web page, watch a movie or look at some pictures and you'll care, believe me. A webpage that is unreadable without zooming and panning on my 900 is perfectly legible on my 920 with no zoom, that makes a big difference for me. Pictures and movies also look far better when pixels are so small and numerous that they melt out of sight.
    12-29-2012 10:39 AM
  21. Optimus82's Avatar
    I know what a high res screen looks like. I've had plenty of android phones with high res including the note. Although eligible without zooming, chances are you will still zoom in to make it comfortable enough to read
    12-29-2012 10:51 AM
  22. brmiller1976's Avatar
    12-29-2012 11:08 AM
  23. stmav's Avatar
    My daughter in law just got the 810 from T mobile for free on a two year contract. She was so thrilled to get a windows phone. I haven't seen it yet so I'm looking forward to checking it out.
    12-29-2012 11:17 AM
  24. Maserati Storm's Avatar
    The 199.99 price tag is kind of high, wish it would of been 99.99
    Sent from my Windows Phone 8X by HTC using Board Express
    12-29-2012 12:25 PM

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