- 02-10-2013, 02:35 PM #576
Add a reduced size gutter back into the start screen and without losing too much tile space you would have a small amount of background visible. Also, I see no problem with a simple w8 background in the messaging app. Would give it a little bit of flash as well. Of all my tiny tiles, only the board express tile is using almost all the real estate. With the exception of web pages and contacts. Take 2 pixels out of the tile sizes and you will have 8 pixels for a gutter. Or maybe a few more pixels. The gutter arrow at the bottom is much smaller than the WP7 gutter arrow and plenty big enough for a nice white space size.
I would like to see the transparent tiles as an option as well, but not that important. Also, the colored backgrounds seems like a simple option to add. Not sure how well it would work in apps though. May have to be a start screen only background color. Rest would be the dark or light background.
- 02-10-2013, 02:44 PM #577
- 02-10-2013, 09:44 PM #578
02-11-2013, 01:25 AM #580
- 288 Posts
No. Absolutely no.
Windows Phone 8 absolutely does not need backgrounds, transparency effects, gradients or other similar elements. The things that you describe as something sorely needed are the exact same things Windows Phone's design principles walk away from and explicitly discards. For Windows Phone to implement any of those suggestions would mean throwing away the very things that make WP a WP. To but it simply: it's not going to happen. Never.
When you think about it, backgrounds don't make sense at all in Start screen filled with Live Tiles. There simply is not enough white space available for background to be effective there like it can in the Windows 8. Transparent Live Tiles would help in this matter but then the background would contribute so much visual noise to the tiles themselves and instantly negate the whole basic purpose of them, which is to convey information to the user. Very little to be gained and a whole lot to be lost, a very bad exchange if you ask me. Opening up home screen to those suggestions of yours would eventually just make a complete mess of everything. They sometimes do that already in the apps when the developer don't understand the design principles involved in Windows Phone:
I would suggest that you trust me on this, because I know what you're going through.
Almost two years ago, I was still a Symbian user and I was pissed about Nokia's announcement of going WP. I too moaned about how boring and stupid WP design choices were. I too made sketches and concepts how it could be "improved" and was very loud about doing that:
I have since learned how to love Metro UI (or whatever it's called today) and see the wisdom behind it's design choices. Focus on the content and get rid of the chrome that does not contribute. Reduce fiercely and don't look back. I don't think Metro UI is completely perfect, but it's definitely going to the right direction and absolutely represents the future of user interface design in the mobile world.
- 02-11-2013, 01:54 AM #581
The absolute most that should be done here is to allow a few custom tile colors and maybe allow changing the background color. Anything more than that and you destroy the beauty of windows phone. No transparency/gradients/shadows/wallpaper!
02-12-2013, 05:48 AM #583
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1. Only 1 volume setting for phone, media, alarms… You really wonder, in an advanced world of technology, is this what you get in your audio settings?
2. No VPN support. What?
3. Cannot choose individual colors for tiles.
4. Internet Explorer does not work with my office site that provides real time quotes… I wonder why. UC Browser does.
5. If you setup a wake up alarm, you cannot choose the duration for which the alarm rings.
6. No option for ring once (neither does Android on S2).
7. People hub is much touted… but long press a contact and you cannot do much with it except pinning it to the start screen. I should get option to send contact info, call, send sms etc. etc.
8. Optionally, the lock screen should wake up and show in coming messages and emails. Is that really hard to do?
9. There is no option to switch profiles — loud, silent, vibration etc. You can only use the volume key to set the volume to somewhere and hope for the best.
10. I have always wondered why I have to pick up my phone all the time even when I am at Windows PC in my office. My phone should be up and running on the PC screen and there should not be any need to pick up the phone once connected to a Windows 8 PC. If MS cannot provide this kind of technology in 2013, then who else? This is something that is expected by MS, not the lame apps we see in the app store, that is mostly waste of time than bringing in productivity.
11. Keyboard: The WP8 keyboard only allows Wordflow. There is no option for Swype. Both should be offered and let users decide which one to use.
12. Wordflow: Even if users are forced to use Wordflow alone, I fail to understand why my contacts are not part of the dictionary automatically? If Wordflow depends upon predicting words, then it all the more important to predict the contact name I am typing.
13. Dialer: This dialer is from the 60s I guess. No speed dial, cannot search for a contact from the keyboard, will have to switch to the contacts list. If you use a better dialer such as the RapDialer, you still dont see missed call notification on its tile and cannot reach the stock call history. What are the MS developers doing whole year?
14. Haptic feedback: Why cant I turn that off? Why waste battery on something you really don’t need?
- 02-12-2013, 06:39 AM #584
- 02-12-2013, 11:28 AM #585
When I first got my iphone about 5 years ago, I loved it, but quickly found it was missing a lot of features.
Each IOS update slowly added those features, but I always thought "why on earth did they not include this the first time around"?
I believe it is because they were selling points. Put all the features in your phone right away and any future updates isn't really news worthy. But, hype an upcoming update about 3 or 4 "new" features and there is buzz...
I know so many people are very quick to defend MS, but for the life of me, I can't understand why some very basic features/apps that are not present are touted as "this was a smart decision for Microsoft to not include...that app/game/feature/setting sucks anyway and I never use it".
Some people get their knickers in a wicked twist over mention of the want for a notification center, as if their Live Tiles is a bragging feature that would somehow be diluted with a "notification center".
- 02-12-2013, 02:51 PM #588
- The email is disorganized. The only organized part is the "Inbox". If you want to look at sent items you have to dig into folders and you can't see sent items from the Yahoo account unless you sent it from the device itself. Back on BB, if you sent it from any device, it synced across all other devices. It was seamless.
- I really see no issue with the keyboard, that's why you should have stayed with Android in the beginning. WP never mislead anyone to think that you customize that. The real issue is that third party developers don't have access to such an area.
- The keyboard needs to go into landscape mode no matter what screen you're typing on, it doesn't when you're posting from the "Me" tile.
- the text is fine.
- full screen image when calling should be an option but not mandatory. Some of us couldn't care less. I honestly never thought of it until you said something. The People Hub also allows you to instantly link contacts without hassle and keeps them linked separate from where you got them i.e. you can't change the actual FB contact info but you can save it and sync the changes to SkyDrive or google.
- So, Live Tiles are good as individual apps. It allows MS to have their niche when it comes to the behavior of the OS but, you can't complain, if you had "done your research" you would know better. We do need a notification system either way.
- agree with this being a legit complaint.
- Even though you can PIN settings, it's time consuming to have to scroll up and down look for that one setting that doesn't show up in the top list with the others. But, we have apps that allow us to change that.
- He's right though, when your in an album, you can't multi-select images and attach them to the email. Heck, you can only attach photos to an emial your send from the Email app. You have to go to the individual files you want to send and then hit the share button. We should be able to perform similar functions from any app that's connect to an app that allows said function be performed. Ex: I can send a word document to someone via email from the Word app but I cannot attach a Word document from the email app.
- The lack of a status bar keeps everything cleaner in my opinion but I guess the option would be nice.
...it seems that the main issues with us that MS doesn't provide us options. I don't want the WP OS to be "open" like Android or super closed like iOS or buggy like BB7 and previous but I would like the option to display certain things. I should have the option to display the full status bar if I want, at the end of the day, it's my phone. I should be able to perform basic email functions like attachments. I should be able to multi-select photos and others things. There's a nice long list of things but it comes down to options...
- 02-12-2013, 02:57 PM #589
I agree with you with the fact that when iOS came along there was no one around to knock them over for being slow but WP is at a crucial point the mobile world that people are upset for these features not being baked in. MS doesn't have the room like Apple did to wait for these updates. It is working to a certain extent. I never jumped on WP 7 because it was missing super basic functions like Copy & Paste but I jumped on WP 7.5 without hesitation because I was done with BB7 and there were some good changes IMO. WP8 does even better but MS dropped the ball with Xbox Music hard. It pisses me off how terrible this experience compared to Zune.
- 02-13-2013, 12:12 PM #591
- Can't delete multiple e-mails at once. Need to delete them 1 by 1. This is really annoying, they should just added and option to toggle all (like in Live/Hotmail or GMail, of course, on the PC).
- Doesn't have sound profiles (like putting all alerts to silent, except for Phone calls and alarm). Better yet (like BB or Android), schedule a sound profile to run at a set schedule.
- Start screen doesn't have wallpaper feature. Even dumb-phones can do this. Of course, for this to work properly, you should be able to set the tiles to semi-transparent.
- Individual volumes for alarms, notifications, ringtones, etc. (like Android or BB).
- When you are on a call, the other notifications shouldn't sound so loud (leave you deaf).
02-15-2013, 06:00 PM #594
- 125 Posts
You can't attach a document to an email after having typed it, making the Office apps far less useful.
The "Pin new note to start" feature is gone in WP8.
You can't download files in IE straight to your Skydrive. Unknown file types are downloaded to the phone then discarded. It's a bad system.
Even less decent apps and games than WP7.
Crappy location of charge port prevents landscape gaming or video while charging. I don't think any thought was put into this rule. There's a good reason why this position was often avoided in the past (though not by Apple).
The localised .co.uk button on the keyboard is not as useful as .com was.
Crappy client sync software (Zune ir whatever) and poor media format support.
Those jump letters in the app list - adding around 20 extra lines and doubling the necessary scrolling in my case. I don't want them.
Inability to close apps.
Locked down and not enough settings/features for this to work well.
...yeah, I really should've gone Android.
02-21-2013, 09:13 PM #595
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1) The fact that there is no way to turn off landscape/portrait auto rotate blows my mind. I frequently want to use my phone in portrait while lying down.
2) No group texting for Verizon users? What kind of feature phone nonsense?!
3) Unable to view .gif animations in text messages.
4) Talk to text is not inherent in the keyboard, so most apps that have text spaces cannot use the function, and there is no ability to use a different keyboard, the letters have no space between them (and wouldn't a downloadable swipe keyboard be nice?) also there is no minimize keyboard option once it is open, you have to click on something on the page (potentially missclick a link)
5) The browsers press and hold menu is limited (doesn't include copy image link, properties etc) and same goes for a few browsers I have downloaded, and it does not auto-adjust text to a readable size. There is also no page forward option after paging back...
6) Some key missing apps, these will be different for everyone, some of mine include Mint and Grindr, but the fact is there are some important apps that are not available that have no suitable alternatives.
7) SIM card error intermittently disables phone and requires a manual restart
It is a beautifully styled phone, I love the UI, the look, the feel. NFC and wireless charging huge plus, but these issues are causing me to regret the purchase of this phone that fateful november afternoon
Any tips or fixes on these would be appreciated.
- 02-21-2013, 09:39 PM #598
I was using my nexus 7 tablet today and I literally can not stand it anymore. I used to love it but ever since I got my 920 I rarely touch my nexus nor do I even want to. It usually lags or it will just sit there and render ( you know that little circle in the middle). Drives me crazy. Can't watch you tube with out it rendering everytime. Sometimes can't even get into the store, just sits there and renders. I'm really turned off by Android anymore. I'm spoiled with smooth fluidity, phone doing what I tell it and not what it wants. Can't even stream movies on my tablet, you guessed it renders all through the damn thing. Google blows. Anything Google, just bla. I like me some Microsoft.
- 02-21-2013, 09:58 PM #599
1.- I agree. This is a feature every smartphone should have by now. I think they don't know what to do with the portrait home screen. Just an educated guess, tough. Hoping that it will come sooner rather than later this year.
2.- My carrier doesn't support that feature, but I guess some find it useful, even if there's chat apps everywhere.
3.- Same as above.
4.- They should implement the talk to text feature in a button on the keyboard for apps that support it. On the other hand, the stock keyboard is great and on par with Android (I find the all-caps iOS keyboard annoying to use). The swipe feature could be seen on WP with 3rd party keyboards but I can see tons of crappy apps coming out with just one or two being good.
5.- You are right about the context menu. It is limited and I hope they improve it. Same for a forward button. There's been no love for IE9 or IE10 mobile browsers from web designers, double tapping the text you want to read when there's no mobile version of a page is great to have it zoomed to a readable size.
6.- The app gap as many call it needs to improve. This will only get better as more users switch to Windows Phone. No the other way around because developers are already comfortable with Android and iOS. If they see more users on WP, they will start to care more. Unavailability of some (or many) apps on WP is something users should take notice before making a decision. I have faith that more major apps will come this year. I just hope they arrive soon ;)
7.- That could be your SIM or your phone. Have it checked by your carrier/store.
Those are my two cents.
- 02-22-2013, 06:43 AM #600
i am the developer of "Week View 8" wanted to ask you, if you like to try my app: Week View 8 | Windows Phone Apps+Games Store (United States)
It has a free trial and all the features that were mentioned in this thread.
- Week View (of course ;) )
- Month View with readable text
- Search for appointments
- Configurable Live tiles that show the next 5 appointments
- Filters, Replacements, Windows Live Calendar categories and much more...just try it.
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