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    Microsoft executives are pretty hyped about Windows Phone sales at the minute.While they are not revealing exact sales figures, we have already had Steve Ballmer talking about sales being 4 to 5 times higher at the end of last year.

    Now we have Greg Sullivan, Senior Marketing Manager at Microsoft, in an interview with PCMag also delivering encouraging news.

    He told PCMag Windows Phone 8 handsets were "selling like hotcakes in China," and that the OS was also gaining success with Nokias Windows Phones in the U.S.

    He also repeated Ballmers statements that sales were five times higher for the last week of December when compared with a year earlier.
    "The sales trends are there for Windows Phone," Sullivan said. "They are going in the right directly absolutely and strongly."
    "Theres sales momentum, carrier momentum, and app momentum, with 125,000 apps," Sullivan noted.


    "With Windows Phone 8, were in this for the long haul," Sullivan said. "We used to think about Windows as software on a PC, but its also on the server and in the cloud and in Skybox and other services even Xbox. Windows is not only Windows and Windows Phone. Its across all parts of Microsoft."

    Greg Sullivan: "selling like hotcakes in China and Intel Chip Speculation |WPCentral


    Yay!!!!. Go WP!!! .
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    Seems the Chinese have an insatiable appetite for smartphones. Over 2 Million iPhone 5's were sold on it's launch weekend, and with a rumoured 300,000 Android devices being activated in China on a daily basis, it looks like the smartphone market is all to play for.
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    The more they sell , the better for all of us. That way we get more developers = more apps
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    Always good to hear sales news from MS themselves. Sounds like things are finally starting to look up.
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    Yes, great news..oh wait, it's not like they have a vested interest. In the mean time, more and more devs dump it left and right. But lets just ignore the obvious warning signs, rights?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Visceral Monkey View Post
    Yes, great news..oh wait, it's not like they have a vested interest. In the mean time, more and more devs dump it left and right. But lets just ignore the obvious warning signs, rights?
    But with the news of spirited sales, more and more devs will jump on. The platform is gaining momentum - bottom line. And so what if those with "vested interest" are enthusiastic? Would you prefer them to hold a presser stating how disappointed they are that WP8 hasn't surpassed iOS yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by crystal_planet View Post
    But with the news of spirited sales, more and more devs will jump on. The platform is gaining momentum - bottom line. And so what if those with "vested interest" are enthusiastic? Would you prefer them to hold a presser stating how disappointed they are that WP8 hasn't surpassed iOS yet?
    No real sales numbers, stock price jumped 18% ... a pump n dump wet dream.

    Yes, real sales numbers would be GREAT, broken down between wp7/wp8 devices, so developers can tell if its worthwhile or not.

    The 920 (and wp8) sales are still in early-adopter mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ohgood View Post
    No real sales numbers, stock price jumped 18% ... a pump n dump wet dream.

    Yes, real sales numbers would be GREAT, broken down between wp7/wp8 devices, so developers can tell if its worthwhile or not.

    The 920 (and wp8) sales are still in early-adopter mode.
    Are you saying because there are no pie charts, no diagrams, no spreadsheets that WP8 is not doing well? Do you honestly thing the adoption rate of WP8 is not exceeding that of 7? Unless you have solid numbers in front of you, there is no indication at all of even a anecdotal reason to be encouraged?

    Good for you. But I bet that even if hard data was introduced, you'd still be unimpressed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by crystal_planet View Post
    Are you saying because there are no pie charts, no diagrams, no spreadsheets that WP8 is not doing well? Do you honestly thing the adoption rate of WP8 is not exceeding that of 7? Unless you have solid numbers in front of you, there is no indication at all of even a anecdotal reason to be encouraged?

    Good for you. But I bet that even if hard data was introduced, you'd still be unimpressed...
    First paragraph... well, yes, what else do we gauge success on ? Guestimates ?

    Last sentence... I will truely be amazed, and impressed, if there is anything remotely near an iphone/sgs3 craze from the entire wp platform for Q4 2012. Why ? Because that means third place is going to be an awesome fight to watch between blackberry, wp, and whoever else tries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ohgood View Post
    First paragraph... well, yes, what else do we gauge success on ? Guestimates ?

    Last sentence... I will truely be amazed, and impressed, if there is anything remotely near an iphone/sgs3 craze from the entire wp platform for Q4 2012. Why ? Because that means third place is going to be an awesome fight to watch between blackberry, wp, and whoever else tries.
    Ha! Now I recognize you - you're that grumpy cat meme that's splashed all over the net.

    Yeah....I don't see long lineups or the popularity you're describing. But then we are talking about an o/s that's less than six months old and I don't expect that kind of consumer mania.


    But I do expect you'll still be here decrying the failure of Windows phone like a mobile Diogenes three months from now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crystal_planet View Post
    Ha! Now I recognize you - you're that grumpy cat meme that's splashed all over the net.

    Yeah....I don't see long lineups or the popularity you're describing. But then we are talking about an o/s that's less than six months old and I don't expect that kind of consumer mania.


    But I do expect you'll still be here decrying the failure of Windows phone like a mobile Diogenes three months from now.
    Nice distraction attempt from the topic. Moving on now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ohgood View Post
    Nice distraction attempt from the topic. Moving on now.
    I didn't distract from anything, but good call on moving on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crystal_planet View Post
    I didn't distract from anything, but good call on moving on.
    I figured you would not answer, cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ohgood View Post
    No real sales numbers, stock price jumped 18% ... a pump n dump wet dream.

    Yes, real sales numbers would be GREAT, broken down between wp7/wp8 devices, so developers can tell if its worthwhile or not.
    4.4 million Nokia Lumias sold in Q4 2012; 2.9 million WP8 and the rest WP7. By contrast, Q4 2011 they sold 1 million Lumias in total.

    HTC is also doing quite well according to preliminary analysis, and Samsung has also sold a few of the Ativ S.

    This doesn't include China and India, two huge markets where Nokia has basically just starting selling their Lumias.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMBasquiat View Post
    4.4 million Nokia Lumias sold in Q4 2012; 2.9 million WP8 and the rest WP7. By contrast, Q4 2011 they sold 1 million Lumias in total.

    HTC is also doing quite well according to preliminary analysis, and Samsung has also sold a few of the Ativ S.

    This doesn't include China and India, two huge markets where Nokia has basically just starting selling their Lumias.
    Mmm, I remember 2011, that was unfortunate. Iirc it was the announcement/rumour of wp8 that hurt sales that season. Where did you find the source for your breakdown of units sold ? All I've found is guestimates and non official sources so far.

    The china stuff is wowwwwwww, that market is so huge and young, anything can happen. Not to mention they build them, and know the phones inside out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ohgood View Post
    Mmm, I remember 2011, that was unfortunate. Iirc it was the announcement/rumour of wp8 that hurt sales that season. Where did you find the source for your breakdown of units sold ? All I've found is guestimates and non official sources so far.

    The china stuff is wowwwwwww, that market is so huge and young, anything can happen. Not to mention they build them, and know the phones inside out.
    Most likely he got that number from here:

    Nokia's Q4 performance exceeds expectations | Windows Phone Central

    Have you seen this before it's where Elop the CEO of Nokia gives is his sales numbers for quarter 4-2012

    Here let me quote it for you.

    [NOTE]Preliminary estimates by Nokia indicate that the Finnish phone giant's Q4 2012 financial performance has exceeded expectations in their Devices & Services division, thanks in large part to the success of their Lumia line of Windows Phone devices. Their estimates suggest that Nokia achieved what it calls "underlying profitability" in Q4. In a press release, CEO Steven Elop shared his thoughts on the news:
    "We are pleased that Q4 2012 was a solid quarter where we exceeded expectations and delivered underlying profitability in Devices & Services and record underlying profitability in Nokia Siemens Networks. We focused on our priorities and as a result we sold a total of 14 million Asha smartphones and Lumia smartphones while managing our costs efficiently, and Nokia Siemens Networks delivered yet another very good quarter."


    It is estimated that Nokia totaled EUR 3.9 billion in the last three months of 2012 from sales of 86.3 million units. Of the 6.6 million smart devices sold, 4.4 million of those were Nokia Lumia devices powered by Windows Phone. This news jump started Nokia's stock, which shot up about 17% at the time of this story.
    [/NOTE]


    I know what you are going to say how can we go by estimates. Well if the CEO of Nokia says it I would thank that those numbers would hold true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMBasquiat View Post
    4.4 million Nokia Lumias sold in Q4 2012; 2.9 million WP8 and the rest WP7. By contrast, Q4 2011 they sold 1 million Lumias in total.

    HTC is also doing quite well according to preliminary analysis, and Samsung has also sold a few of the Ativ S.

    This doesn't include China and India, two huge markets where Nokia has basically just starting selling their Lumias.
    Seriously, what is the original source for that 2.9M WP8's sold? That absolutely is not any official info from Nokia!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaichuke View Post
    Seriously, what is the original source for that 2.9M WP8's sold? That absolutely is not any official info from Nokia!
    I would also like to know where the break down came from. I don't recall seeing the numbers broken down to that level in any of the articles I have read.
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    now you've got me figured out... there are reasons i am always looking for the sources.

    get fooled once and lose some dime, it sticks with ya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Blake View Post
    I would also like to know where the break down came from. I don't recall seeing the numbers broken down to that level in any of the articles I have read.
    2.9M Lumias were sold in Q3, so that's impressive considering that 4.4M were sold in only around 6 weeks rather than 3 months.
    - Lumia Q3 volumes decreased quarter-on-quarter to 2.9 million units, as we shared the exciting innovation ahead with our new line of Lumia products.
    Nokia Corporation Q3 2012 Interim Report Nokia – Press
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    Quote Originally Posted by lak611 View Post
    2.9M Lumias were sold in Q3, so that's impressive considering that 4.4M were sold in only around 6 weeks rather than 3 months. Nokia Corporation Q3 2012 Interim Report Nokia – Press
    That is not the 2.9M we were talking about. For some reason, in these forums there is a rumor circulating that from the 4.4M of Lumia's sold during Q4, 2.9M were WP8 devices. But so far no source has been uncovered for that piece of information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaichuke View Post
    That is not the 2.9M we were talking about. For some reason, in these forums there is a rumor circulating that from the 4.4M of Lumia's sold during Q4, 2.9M were WP8 devices. But so far no source has been uncovered for that piece of information.
    Even the 4.4m you've referenced (2012 Q4) is still only a rumor. The transposing of facts and rumors in threads like this is very confusing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ohgood View Post
    Even the 4.4m you've referenced (2012 Q4) is still only a rumor. The transposing of facts and rumors in threads like this is very confusing.
    Do you just come in the forums to fight and argue with people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ohgood View Post
    Even the 4.4m you've referenced (2012 Q4) is still only a rumor. The transposing of facts and rumors in threads like this is very confusing.
    After all that it's comments like this that ruins any credibility that you might gain. I don't understand why you are here. What is the porous of this post? Can you tell me that?

    You must have a reality bubble around your head nothing gets in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by palandri View Post
    Do you just come in the forums to fight and argue with people?
    Only looking for clarification of how many hotcakes. See the last few posts.
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