Welcome to the Windows Central Forums Create Your Account or Ask a Question Answers in 5 minutes - no registration required!
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 31
Like Tree24Likes
  1. Joshua Jackson's Avatar
    Member

    Posts
    357 Posts
    Global Posts
    358 Global Posts
       #1  
    I just wanted to find an old (maybe a month old) text message that I sent to my wife and realized that no search feature was present.
    Is there any such functionality?
  2. #2  
    Goto your wife's entry in the people hub, navigate to history and look for the older section.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
  3. Joshua Jackson's Avatar
    Member

    Posts
    357 Posts
    Global Posts
    358 Global Posts
       #3  
    Quote Originally Posted by eric12341 View Post
    Goto your wife's entry in the people hub, navigate to history and look for the older section.
    Hehehe...
    I was looking for something a little less manual.
    JJ
    Sent from my Verizon HTC 8X using Board Express
  4. explosive0's Avatar
    Member

    Posts
    312 Posts
    Global Posts
    316 Global Posts
    #4  
    Just realized I couldn't search for a message. Jesus Christ. This is absolutely ridiculous.
    Thanked by:
    gerado44i likes this.
  5. OzRob's Avatar
    Member

    Posts
    604 Posts
    Global Posts
    635 Global Posts
    #5  
    Quote Originally Posted by explosive012 View Post
    Just realized I couldn't search for a message. Jesus Christ. This is absolutely ridiculous.
    Yes, it is. Microsoft doesn't seem to want to learn the lesson so comprehensively taught to them by Google - search matters!
  6. #6  
    It might have to do something with a patent. I remember google taking out universal search out of Android devices. Same thing with IOS.
    Sent from my Nokia Lumia 920 using Board Express
  7. OzRob's Avatar
    Member

    Posts
    604 Posts
    Global Posts
    635 Global Posts
    #7  
    Quote Originally Posted by rdubmu View Post
    It might have to do something with a patent. I remember google taking out universal search out of Android devices. Same thing with IOS.
    Sent from my Nokia Lumia 920 using Board Express
    Who's patent? And it's not really an issue of universal search, it's about searching within your text messages. Android certainly has that, and I'm pretty sure iOS does as well. Microsoft just 'forgot' to put it in.

    EDIT: I think it really points to an issue that Microsoft has had almost since day one. It always seems to be blind to the fact that people regularly push the limits of an OS. I'm sure they probably left search out of the messages app because they didn't consider that people keep loads of texts. It probably figured people would just delete old texts and therefore they could just 'browse' through them. It's the same reason the music library stuff on things like Media Center is so god awful and laggy if you have a large music collection. MS don't consider people who want to stress the system a little. I think it goes back to the mindset of the company when Bill Gates said "Who is ever going to need more than 640KB of RAM?". Well the answer turned out to be "everyone", but MS didn't cotton on to that until the writing was well and truly on the wall.
    Last edited by OzRob; 05-28-2013 at 12:04 AM.
    Thanked by:
    explosive0, gerado44i and jovihava like this.
  8. Dave Blake's Avatar
    Mod and Ambassador Team Emeritus

    Posts
    5,662 Posts
    Global Posts
    7,164 Global Posts
    #8  
    Nope you cant search text messages but why would you need to. I have never needed to search text messages short of finding a comment in a conversations maybe an address or something given. That is simple enough just go to the conversations you are having with the person and scan the thread. You can also go the person in contacts and look through their history.

    Windows Phone is different from other OS's that doesn't mean you can't do it its just not done the same way its done on the other OS. If you changed from one of the other OS's I think you did that to experience some thing different didn't you? Instead of getting upset because WP doesn't search text messages the exact same way the OS you just got tired of and witched form how's about figuring out how this is accomplished on WP?
  9. OzRob's Avatar
    Member

    Posts
    604 Posts
    Global Posts
    635 Global Posts
    #9  
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Blake View Post
    Nope you cant search text messages but why would you need to. I have never needed to search text messages short of finding a comment in a conversations maybe an address or something given.
    That's an incredibly short-sighted and rather condescending comment. Just because YOU don't find it necessary doesn't mean that someone else won't have a very valid reason for wanting to do just that. The OP, in fact, very much wanted to search his text messages, hence the reason for starting this thread.

    There are many valid scenarios in which search within messages would be a 'needed' facility. Some people send/receive lots of texts from lots of different people. If there's important information buried in that lot, browsing conversations would be downright tedious. Similarly if you use your phone for work and get clients texting you with sales queries. You might need to quickly find some info from a client to process an order.

    W8 is meant to be a SMARTphone operating system. Why force us to do something really DUMB like browsing through months of SMS history to find something. If the WP8 developers can't figure out how to put a search function in the messaging app, then this platform is doomed.

    EDIT: And as to this assertion that WP is different and that you just do it "differently" in WP, well no, you can't search messages period. There is no 'different' way of searching, there is just NO way.
  10. stmav's Avatar
    Retired Moderator

    Posts
    3,685 Posts
    Global Posts
    3,767 Global Posts
    #10  
    So manually searching is not a way? Yes, there is no automated search, or a quick way to search. And those are features that Windows Phone could use. But saying there is no way is incorrect. And most salesmen use email for quotes, so that there will be a trail on their computer as well as their phone. And you can search email on Windows Phone. Not the best example to use.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
  11. OzRob's Avatar
    Member

    Posts
    604 Posts
    Global Posts
    635 Global Posts
    #11  
    Quote Originally Posted by stmav View Post
    So manually searching is not a way? Yes, there is no automated search, or a quick way to search. And those are features that Windows Phone could use. But saying there is no way is incorrect.
    Searching and browsing are two different things. There is no way to 'search' for a particular phrase or words in your text messages, but you can browse. So saying there is no way to 'search' within text messages is correct. Browsing is not a different way to search, it's browsing. Trying to equate the two is like a claiming a car with manual window windows has power windows, it's just that you manually supply the power to wind the windows.
    Thanked by:
    kbilly70 likes this.
  12. Abdul Rahman Noor's Avatar
    Member

    Posts
    156 Posts
    Global Posts
    157 Global Posts
    #12  
    I just stumbled across this thread after realising i couldn't search a text a friend sent me a while back.

    What i find more disappointing is the sort of fanboyism among some of the members here who defend missing features each time something like this is pointed out, instead of just admitting its a shortcoming. WP is a good OS with an awesome UI, but some aspects of it are plain unfinished.
    Thanked by:
    explosive0 likes this.
  13. MrTJ's Avatar
    Member

    Posts
    1 Posts
    #13  
    I can only agree with Abdul and OzRob The missing "search in text messages" is a missing feature. Thats is that. No need to find try to silly excuses for this.

    I recieve a lot of messages from people who are noget going to be stored as contacts in my Phone. Once in a while I need to dig back to find a phone number or something else within a message. With out a search funciont it takes time and is difficult. This is simple and plain ridiculous, it can not be done on Windows Phone 8.

    It it actually one of the few thing i really miss on my WP8.
  14. knuthakon's Avatar
    Member

    Posts
    5 Posts
    #14  
    You guys should all go vote for the feature here!

    Search Phone Content!
    Or
    Full text search - SMS
  15. raacut's Avatar
    Member

    Posts
    56 Posts
    #15  
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Blake View Post
    Nope you cant search text messages but why would you need to. I have never needed to search text messages short of finding a comment in a conversations maybe an address or something given. That is simple enough just go to the conversations you are having with the person and scan the thread. You can also go the person in contacts and look through their history.

    Windows Phone is different from other OS's that doesn't mean you can't do it its just not done the same way its done on the other OS. If you changed from one of the other OS's I think you did that to experience some thing different didn't you? Instead of getting upset because WP doesn't search text messages the exact same way the OS you just got tired of and witched form how's about figuring out how this is accomplished on WP?

    WOW ! just wow...... Is it really that hard for you to admit when there is a very important feature missing in WP8 ? With all due respect your arrogance is quite astonishing to me.
    kbilly70 and FinancialP like this.
  16. vichuhit's Avatar
    Member

    Posts
    14 Posts
    #16  
    Quote Originally Posted by raacut View Post
    WOW ! just wow...... Is it really that hard for you to admit when there is a very important feature missing in WP8 ? With all due respect your arrogance is quite astonishing to me.
    Haha... You shouldn't be telling this. Hm, there is no feature for searching a message in WP.
    well if you remember the content of the particular message, why do you even need to do search that. (if you don't remember it, how are you gonna search it mate!!!)
    now, if you really desperate to retrieve it. Log on to the live id you used in your mobile via pc and search it under messaging history folder. (i believe you enabled text back up). I hope it helps. And don't s**t WP for not having this option. It is redundant.
  17. kbilly70's Avatar
    Member

    Posts
    116 Posts
    Global Posts
    117 Global Posts
    #17  
    Quote Originally Posted by OzRob View Post
    That's an incredibly short-sighted and rather condescending comment. Just because YOU don't find it necessary doesn't mean that someone else won't have a very valid reason for wanting to do just that. The OP, in fact, very much wanted to search his text messages, hence the reason for starting this thread.

    There are many valid scenarios in which search within messages would be a 'needed' facility. Some people send/receive lots of texts from lots of different people. If there's important information buried in that lot, browsing conversations would be downright tedious. Similarly if you use your phone for work and get clients texting you with sales queries. You might need to quickly find some info from a client to process an order.

    W8 is meant to be a SMARTphone operating system. Why force us to do something really DUMB like browsing through months of SMS history to find something. If the WP8 developers can't figure out how to put a search function in the messaging app, then this platform is doomed.

    EDIT: And as to this assertion that WP is different and that you just do it "differently" in WP, well no, you can't search messages period. There is no 'different' way of searching, there is just NO way.
    So much this. Very well said OzRob

    People on here are so self-absorbed. It's half the reason why I can barely stomach frequenting these forums.

    I may never need or want to search for a particular text message but that doesn't mean I can't see why some people would. I may never use the notification center, or need separate volume controls. But just because I may not use it, want it, need it, I still see why other people might want or need these features.

    People need to get over themselves and understand that if it's a feature on another platform then it's in the best interests of this platform to have that feature.
  18. kbilly70's Avatar
    Member

    Posts
    116 Posts
    Global Posts
    117 Global Posts
    #18  
    Quote Originally Posted by vichuhit View Post
    Haha... You shouldn't be telling this. Hm, there is no feature for searching a message in WP.
    well if you remember the content of the particular message, why do you even need to do search that. (if you don't remember it, how are you gonna search it mate!!!)
    now, if you really desperate to retrieve it. Log on to the live id you used in your mobile via pc and search it under messaging history folder. (i believe you enabled text back up). I hope it helps. And don't s**t WP for not having this option. It is redundant.
    Right, because someone might remember only a snippet of a conversation and searching would be easier instead of logging into their Live account. Seriously, get over yourself.
    Nimdock likes this.
  19. Nimdock's Avatar
    Member

    Posts
    660 Posts
    #19  
    I agree text search is needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by vichuhit View Post
    Haha... You shouldn't be telling this. Hm, there is no feature for searching a message in WP.
    well if you remember the content of the particular message, why do you even need to do search that. (if you don't remember it, how are you gonna search it mate!!!)
    now, if you really desperate to retrieve it. Log on to the live id you used in your mobile via pc and search it under messaging history folder. (i believe you enabled text back up). I hope it helps. And don't s**t WP for not having this option. It is redundant.
    Are you serious? I guess you never use a search engine because if you know what you are typing in the box why are you searching? Who ever heard of keywords to find things.

    Sometimes people can be so short sighted.
    kbilly70 likes this.
  20. Dave Blake's Avatar
    Mod and Ambassador Team Emeritus

    Posts
    5,662 Posts
    Global Posts
    7,164 Global Posts
    #20  
    Quote Originally Posted by raacut View Post
    WOW ! just wow...... Is it really that hard for you to admit when there is a very important feature missing in WP8 ? With all due respect your arrogance is quite astonishing to me.
    I don't believe i insulted you once in my reply. Is it impossible for you to understand that this might be something I have no use for. Maybe just maybe I like to have people's email, phone calls, text messages, Facebook and Twitter replies available in one location. It just might be easier for me to only have to look in one place for all of this information about a person.

    I also find it interesting that you have taken such a personal approach to my opinion. Its almost like you were offended by my comments.
  21. Nimdock's Avatar
    Member

    Posts
    660 Posts
    #21  
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Blake View Post
    I don't believe i insulted you once in my reply. Is it impossible for you to understand that this might be something I have no use for. Maybe just maybe I like to have people's email, phone calls, text messages, Facebook and Twitter replies available in one location. It just might be easier for me to only have to look in one place for all of this information about a person.

    I also find it interesting that you have taken such a personal approach to my opinion. Its almost like you were offended by my comments.
    I agree people can get over the top with some replies and attacks. I am in no way justifying personal attacks but I guess part of it is seeing someone flat down expressing that something they deeply care about is not needed just because some people have no use for it. Again I am not justifying it and there are some replies here that are uncalled for.
  22. OzRob's Avatar
    Member

    Posts
    604 Posts
    Global Posts
    635 Global Posts
    #22  
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Blake View Post
    I don't believe i insulted you once in my reply. Is it impossible for you to understand that this might be something I have no use for. Maybe just maybe I like to have people's email, phone calls, text messages, Facebook and Twitter replies available in one location. It just might be easier for me to only have to look in one place for all of this information about a person.

    I also find it interesting that you have taken such a personal approach to my opinion. Its almost like you were offended by my comments.
    If you don't want people to take your posts personally or be offended by them, perhaps you should avoid telling people what you think they do or don't need to do with their phone, and making assumptions about a person's level of intimacy with the features of their phone. To quote from you post:

    "Nope you cant search text messages but why would you need to."

    "Instead of getting upset because WP doesn't search text messages the exact same way the OS you just got tired of and witched form how's about figuring out how this is accomplished on WP?"

    It's fine that you personally don't want or feel that you would use an SMS search function. It's also fine that you articulate the reasons that lead you hold this opinion. But it crosses a boundary by telling people that their opinions, which differ from yours, are wrong and that they shouldn't hold those opinions. And what's more, that they are actually ignorant of the real situation by holding said opinions.
    Thanked by:
    FinancialP and gablody like this.
  23. Dave Blake's Avatar
    Mod and Ambassador Team Emeritus

    Posts
    5,662 Posts
    Global Posts
    7,164 Global Posts
    #23  
    Quote Originally Posted by OzRob View Post
    If you don't want people to take your posts personally or be offended by them, perhaps you should avoid telling people what you think they do or don't need to do with their phone, and making assumptions about a person's level of intimacy with the features of their phone. To quote from you post:

    "Nope you cant search text messages but why would you need to."

    "Instead of getting upset because WP doesn't search text messages the exact same way the OS you just got tired of and witched form how's about figuring out how this is accomplished on WP?"

    It's fine that you personally don't want or feel that you would use an SMS search function. It's also fine that you articulate the reasons that lead you hold this opinion. But it crosses a boundary by telling people that their opinions, which differ from yours, are wrong and that they shouldn't hold those opinions. And what's more, that they are actually ignorant of the real situation by holding said opinions.
    The first part of you commentary is self explanatory so I am just going to skip that completely. I feel most get the meaning withoput explination. This second part needs clarification.

    But it crosses a boundary by telling people that their opinions, which differ from yours, are wrong and that they shouldn't hold those opinions. And what's more, that they are actually ignorant of the real situation by holding said opinions
    What?! How do you come to that conclusion. By no stretch of the imagination did I even imply anything like that. What I said for the record was:

    "Instead of getting upset because WP doesn't search text messages the exact same way the OS you just got tired of and witched form how's about figuring out how this is accomplished on WP?"

    Where in that statement does it say "opinions, which differ from yours, are wrong", " they shouldn't hold those opinions", or and most importantly "they are actually ignorant of the real situation by holding said opinions"? Please don't read into my comments you are not understanding anything I am posting here. If you have questions please ask them but don't try to exadurate my comments to fit your needs. I will help you understand if I can but you will have to ask specific questions so I can give complete answers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nimdock View Post
    I agree people can get over the top with some replies and attacks. I am in no way justifying personal attacks but I guess part of it is seeing someone flat down expressing that something they deeply care about is not needed just because some people have no use for it. Again I am not justifying it and there are some replies here that are uncalled for.
    Hmm... You read my comment as saying that searching text messages is not needed because I don't need it? That is not the message I am trying to get out at all. What I am trying to tell everyone is because Microsoft didn't put in a magnifying glass with a text box that doesn't mean there isn't a way to search messages. On a WP its done differently you can use the People hub where all messages for a single person are consolidated. Search messages by person not text. My hope is that people will see that this is not an omission of a service but a different way of doing things. Would it be nice to have a magnifying glass with a text box? Sure it would but I might not want it in the messaging hub I would like to see it in the people hub so I can search for text in a single persons messages.

    Addition of all options available would be great. I hope Microsoft get around to covering in some way everyone's favorite missing feature. In the mean time I hope to give people options or solutions for common differences in OS's things people don't know about the OS is the biggest issue sometimes. So if I can help one person see there is a way to find content in a text message without a magnifying glass then I feel I am helping. That is what and why I posted in this thread and will continue to counter arguments that I feel I have a viable solution to.
    Last edited by Dave Blake; 07-02-2013 at 09:50 PM.
  24. Musicman247's Avatar
    Member

    Posts
    367 Posts
    Global Posts
    641 Global Posts
    #24  
    The problem is you still can't search, even in the people hub. You still have to scroll through not only all the text messages, but emails and phone calls to that person as well.

    I have scrolled through months of messages to find a quote before and agree an actual search in text messages would be nice.
    Thanked by:
    FinancialP likes this.
  25. eruptflail's Avatar
    Member

    Posts
    288 Posts
    Global Posts
    291 Global Posts
    #25  
    Regardless of anyone's opinions, this is something that should be addressed. It's a feature that could be useful to almost anyone. Microsoft has been skimping on a few of the most rudimentary features, and something this basic kind of surprises me. Ctrl+f has been a feature of windows for ages, and I don't think the mobile version should have it missing from basic text such as sms. WP8 has no defense against these sorts of features, which are available on all of it's competitors. Microsoft came into WP8 with two very good competitors to take ideas from, and missing simple things like this and an orientation lock is just baffling.
    Last edited by eruptflail; 07-03-2013 at 12:42 AM.
    OzRob likes this.
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions