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    #126  
    Quote Originally Posted by a5cent View Post
    I agree. However, the use case is different for almost every company. I would hope people have enough imagination to think up those use cases themselves, after understanding that VPN is just a security feature. It does nothing on its own, beyond providing a secure connection over a public network.

    This is useful to anyone that requires data from corporate HQ while working from home or on the road. It's a basic feature used by almost every single large corporation and their employees.



    It depend on WP's target market. If MS wants to sell WP devices to corporations, that 8-point list is almost irrelevant. Supporting VPN is then far more important, as almost every CTO will instantly exclude WP from consideration otherwise.
    I hear what you're saying, but I think its a stop gap. Companies are moving to cloud solutions and the need to tunnel in for local file storage and remote desktop is going the way of the dodo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacchus1976 View Post
    I hear what you're saying, but I think its a stop gap. Companies are moving to cloud solutions and the need to tunnel in for local file storage and remote desktop is going the way of the dodo.
    I can't predict the future, but I doubt that. The cloud is basically about hosting. It has little or nothing to do with security (more about safety). As a result, all cloud services I'm aware of also support and encourage the use of VPN. Cloud based hosting and VPN solve completely different problems, so one can't replace the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zuldrum View Post
    Underkill. It's missing too many important features. Check my list for details. :) And the suggestions just above this post are excellent.
    I think it is very similar to my list aside from some different wording and one or two different suggestions. I like that he sees the overall WP8 experience as good and the things it's missing are more of a nuisance than anything else. I still think my list is a good indication of what people are looking for ...mostly because I wrote it by comparing everyone else's lists.

    I don't see why Microsoft doesn't tackle each issue individually and then release it. Say for example the notification center. Make it, test it then release it and move on to the next like email or sound profile fixes. Why not do that instead of releasing it all in one update. Imagine how much more exciting things would be if we were getting updates every few weeks instead of every few months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Drewskie View Post
    I don't see why Microsoft doesn't tackle each issue individually and then release it. Say for example the notification center. Make it, test it then release it and move on to the next like email or sound profile fixes. Why not do that instead of releasing it all in one update. Imagine how much more exciting things would be if we were getting updates every few weeks instead of every few months.
    I don't think that's the best idea. Android had a fast firmware update program, but look where it is, completely fragmented.

    The portico update didn't add much useful stuff, it fixed a few issues, I hope the next update looks to start making WP8 as smart as android or windows mobile OS, because that's the major detractor for me; file management, downloading any file and saving to the phone, and email attachments are a big problem and i can't see why they would want to limit those functions.

    I also forgot to add to my previous list. MS should fix the clocks and alarms apps; such a brilliant swipe system for WP8, so they decide to make the alarms and world clock separate apps. Stupid stupid stupid, it should be one app, with a stop watch and a timer as well. Maybe throw in the quiet time function into it as well.
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    #130  
    Some of this is probably redundant, but:

    1) Notification Center - even if it was on the lockscreen and being able to go straight to that notification by selecting the icon, right there on the lockscreen.

    2) Folders - there HAS to be SOME way of cleaning up the long list of apps!!! There's no way I want to pin everything to start, and the list can become very disorganized (alphbetical order isn't always sufficient).

    3) Profiles - having an easier way to set the audio/vibrate functions for different situations would be excellent, rather than always having to maually turn up/down or off all together.

    4) Universal Search - I don't think this needs explained at all.

    5) Apps - The new kernel was supposed to make porting easier for devs..... and there were many promises of big apps being ported, but these have STILL yet to see the light of day on WP8. There are plenty of apps that list iOS, Android, and BB..... BB!!!!! with no WP8 anywhere to be seen!!!!! Are you kidding me???

    6) Battery Life - I know its not just a problem on 920's...... something is happening that sucks the sh*t out of the battery life. And I don't think I should have to disable every app from background tasks, turn off wi-fi, nfc, etc just to get a days use out of my phone.

    7) True Multitasking - I don't think this needs explanation, nor do I think it's truly possible with the phone's battery life.

    8) Surface Phone - I understand it might hurt MS's relationship with OEMs, but they released a tablet, didn't they??? I truly believe that if MS wants to start putting a dent into the Apple/Android marketshare, they should release their own phone. Period. That way, deficiencies/updates/etc could all be handled without all the 3rd party interference with customer experiences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit11B View Post
    5) Apps - The new kernel was supposed to make porting easier for devs..... and there were many promises of big apps being ported, but these have STILL yet to see the light of day on WP8. There are plenty of apps that list iOS, Android, and BB..... BB!!!!! with no WP8 anywhere to be seen!!!!! Are you kidding me???

    7) True Multitasking - I don't think this needs explanation, nor do I think it's truly possible with the phone's battery life

    8) That way, deficiencies/updates/etc could all be handled without all the 3rd party interference with customer experiences.
    5) You are misunderstanding something. Although WP8's "new" kernel does (indirectly) make porting apps a lot easier, that applies to Windows RT apps only. In regard to porting iOS, Android or BB apps, that "new" kernel helps nothing at all... absolutely nothing. Microsoft decided to allow developers to write native code libraries and apps for WP8. This will make it easier to port some games from those competing mobile platforms, but that has nothing to do with the kernel.

    7) As explained in many other threads, supporting unrestricted/true multitasking would be a terrible idea, not just due to the taxation on battery life.

    8) You are taking experiences from Android and assuming WP works similarly. This isn't true. Every WP device is essentially equivalent to a Google Nexus device. Although a Surface Phone may have some benefits, the one you are referring to isn't one of them. Microsoft can update any device at any time without causing any technical difficulties. OEM intervention isn't required. I don't know why Microsoft doesn't distribute updates directly, but the reasons aren't technical.
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    #132  
    they need to fix the mms..

    I can never send a picture text :/

    I went through all the support via the phone and I ended having to reset my entire phone.. and it worked for a day, and then stopped working again. :(
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    Microsoft please fix my "other" now over 8GB and growing!

    One of eight things should be more memory control and breakdown of what "other" really is!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit11B View Post
    8) Surface Phone - I understand it might hurt MS's relationship with OEMs, but they released a tablet, didn't they??? I truly believe that if MS wants to start putting a dent into the Apple/Android marketshare, they should release their own phone. Period. That way, deficiencies/updates/etc could all be handled without all the 3rd party interference with customer experiences.
    I really don't think that's necessary. The fortunate thing with MS tighter control on hardware specs, means that the phones around are quite similar. With that said, I think the major problems with WP8 are all software related.

    Google had to do their own phone series, because if they didn't, no one else, certainly no OEM or especially a carrier would push it for them. Fragmentation, was, and still is a major issue with android, and from my experience, bugs, malware, and lack of updates is incredibly annoying for a phone which is supposed to be open and user friendly.

    By releasing the nexus line, they basically defined what an android phone had to be; MS has already done that with its specs for windows phones, and you just look at the lumia phones, there is some differentiation, but i really struggle to see, hardware wise, what can possibly be done to either a HTC 8X or Lumia 920 to improve it, at this stage, the only thing in all honesty is improve battery life, and still improve camera quality, beyond that, nothing really worthwhile, it's mainly software things which are really annoying with WP8. At the moment, the bugs in WP8 are very minor, it's just user functions and flexibility of the platform which needs catching up, and i really hope they do add those things.
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    1. Notification Center: They would need to rewrite considerable parts of the API for that. It would take some time.
    2. Universal Search: Why? Useless on a phone.
    3. Instagram: Not MS' fault FB is stuck up
    4. 'X' to Close Apps: I admit that would be nice in multitasking...
    5. Better Xbox Gaming: No. If you want Xbox gaming, get an Xbox
    6. Folders: No comment
    7. Independent volume and profiles: I've always viewed that feature as for the lazy.
    8. Fix Xbox Music and Video: No comment
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    #136  
    Quote Originally Posted by JoeWang4 View Post
    1. Notification Center: They would need to rewrite considerable parts of the API for that. It would take some time. To log toast notifications? Easy enough. An independant developer already did it.
    2. Universal Search: Why? Useless on a phone. Used it all the time on webOS and iOS. Plan to use it all the time on WP8 if it is ever implemented.
    3. Instagram: Not MS' fault FB is stuck up
    4. 'X' to Close Apps: I admit that would be nice in multitasking...
    5. Better Xbox Gaming: No. If you want Xbox gaming, get an Xbox
    6. Folders: No comment
    7. Independent volume and profiles: I've always viewed that feature as for the lazy. You see it as lazy, everyone else sees it as efficient.
    8. Fix Xbox Music and Video: No comment
    See my comments in bold.
  12. #137  
    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Sabri View Post
    Daniel just posted a really great editorial on what needs to be fixed right now in Windows Phone 8. He picked the top 8 issues that are most pressing for Windows Phone.
    Read the article here.

    For the lazy:
    1. Notification Center
    2. Universal Search
    3. Instagram
    4. 'X' to Close Apps
    5. Better Xbox Gaming
    6. Folders
    7. Independent volume and profiles
    8. Fix Xbox Music and Video


    Do yourself a favor and read the article so you can see the logic behind those concerns. In the meantime, I want to ask you what are some issues you want Microsoft to address right now?

    One thing I'd love to see is tighter integration between all my devices: Xbox, Windows 8 devices (Desktop/laptop/Surface) and my Windows Phone gluing the whole experience together. For example bookmarks between my laptop and phone should sync, my browsing history should also sync between any device I use IE on.

    Your turn What do you want in Windows Phone 8 right now?
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    When I first putdown a BlackBerry and picked up a Windows Phone one of things that drew me inwas its paradigm to be a smarter phone:

    At the time, Androidwas complicated - overrun with menus, cluttered with widgets. iPhone was allabout silos - hop-in, hop-out, you do the hokey-pokey and that's what it wasall about - constantly re-entering the same data at each silo...

    Ahh but WindowsPhone.... It "was" fast, fluid, with whimsical animations that mademy device feel alive all while intuitively managing background tasks so Ididn't have to. And i got a lot bit moreout of my battery than those other smartphones did (always to my friendssurprise)....

    but what it didbetter than any other phone was it was smarter, more efficient. the language ofreduction, and the focus on typographyand hierarchy made it easier and faster to consume content. It surfaced information faster too. Dedicatedcamera button... I never missed the shot, even if my friends did.. "Onetouch" to Bing that made my friends think I could do black magic when iwas able to tag a song at the pub faster or "Scout" the perfectrestaurant or bar when we were traveling...in fact my Windows Phone pretty muchalways "Smoked" those other phones...

    But now in WindowsPhone 8 i feel the platform is going in a different direction... so focused onapps and of course i know it's important for the ecosystem to grow, but are welosing our way?...App connect was such a great concept - I wasn't constantly re-enteringdata: the restaurant information was passed to reservation app which was thenpassed to my navigation app... Now the paradigm i hoped to avoid I'm consumedby. I'm in and out of the People Hub and The Facebook App because thefunctionality of the hub hasn't really expanded since 7.5. Do I go into thePeople Hub or the Facebook app? and Twitter or LinkedIn? Still no Foursquaresupport in the hub? Which is faster -hubs or app silos? Which do I use - thehubs or the individual apps? it's becoming always a dilemma and one that'swasting my time...

    All the while, The latest Androids are making great advancesin building the next "smarter" phone. With Google Now you get allthis information that is relevant surfaced to you, a smarter mobile device. Withouteven searching, relevant information is surfaced to you. Mobile boarding passesdelivered directly to you, intuitively, when you arrive at the airport,notifications pop-up on your phone "It's time to leave for work in themorning," based on the current traffic conditions, search results beforeyou search, sports scores of teams you've searched for, translate and currencycards for when you leave the country, your hotel confirmation email when youarrive to check-in at the hotel... My friends' Jelly Beans are becoming sweeterthan my Windows Phone...AND they're arriving at the information I need fasterthan I can now with the new Google Now assistant. ...It's impressive and it's the nextlevel in the intuitive assistant smartphone - crunching all the data so youdont have to; and, something I can't help think might make my day moreefficient and easier than my Windows Phone currently can.. And Key Lime Pie?Who doesn't like key lime pie, it only sounds like it's getting better..

    yeah live tiles haveevolved and yeah they're certainly more personal than they were in WindowsPhone 7.5, that glance and go is still a great concept, but I wouldn't bet itall on black on live tiles where most are updated as infrequently as hours, andstill yet most developers haven't wrapped their heads around the potential oflive tiles and aren't deploying live tiles in their applications to fullpotential..

    What we need NOW inWindows Phone 8 is to tighten up what was first started in Windows Phone 7 andthat's to be the smarter smartphone. If we don't have apps from all theairlines then we need for our OS to fill in and surface mobile boarding passesfrom our email when we arrive at the airport...and all the little things Ican't think to do, but that my smartphone could. We need a Google Now onWindows Phone 8 Yesterday. Because, "yesterday all my troubles seemed so far away."
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    #139  
    I'm also hoping Microsoft expands the capabilities of tellme to be competitive with google now.
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    I still use Google Voice but if I was THAT stuck on Google as a whole, I would have stayed with Android. The only thing about this phone I can't quite get my head around is that Office (a Microsoft product) is not nearly as functional as the Android alternatives (Documents to Go, Quickoffice Pro, etc.). I can't even add/delete rows in the spreadsheet for pete's sake! I'm sorry but I really do expect more from a Microsoft phone. I'm hoping this will improve with time but for now I'm left to work around this issue. Oh and what's with the inability to email PDF's as attachments? C'mon MS, if nothing else, I expect a Windows phone to do Office better than anything else out there.
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    #141  
    Honestly, Android has a lot of little nifty features. Sure, the average user might not utilise them all - or not even see them because they are running a modified and/or outdated version of Android. But if you're a computer enthusiast and don't mind tinkering (and some terrible programmer UI), you're going to get huge kicks out of it. Heck, just think of the possibilities of the RGB notification LED on the Nexus 4.

    I'm interested in developing for WP8 though, so I guess I'm keeping my hands off the Nexus 4 for now.
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    You seem to worry too much on things you cannot control. Best learn to put your energies somewhere else. You'll give yourself a heart attack when you get older.
    Support your third-party developers. There just about all we have...
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    Saw the Google now video and thought that it is just live tiles with bigger display. The information could be easily replaced with more dynamic information in live tiles. E.g., display the traffic and eta information for usual routes in the Nokia Drive tile.
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    #144  
    1. Show SMS Delivery reports as a tick or something inside message, NOT as a separate message.
    2. Independent volume and profiles
    3. A better music player
    4. A Simple File Manager
    5. Installing apps to SD Card or allow some apps to write on SD Card.
    6. Instagram
    7. Folders
    8. Support navigation in Iran (Nokia Drive+ app) - This more relates to Nokia...

    I'm happy with my Lumia 620 right now, but if those 8 things become available, then I'll be much more happy :)
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    #145  
    The only thing im really missing is VPN Support. So i could stop carrying my old 6.5 Phone around.
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    #146  
    Quote Originally Posted by Panu16 View Post
    Saw the Google now video and thought that it is just live tiles with bigger display. The information could be easily replaced with more dynamic information in live tiles. E.g., display the traffic and eta information for usual routes in the Nokia Drive tile.
    The ability to display information in a vaguely square format does not make something a "live tile". Google Now is context aware and tied into Google products in a kinda creepy way that's much deeper than traffic data. I googled a band a couple weeks ago on my laptop, listened to some of their stuff, liked it, but kinda forgot about it--a Google Now card popped up the other day on my phone letting me know they're playing in my town, where, what time, and how to buy tickets. Microsoft, as far as I know, doesn't have anything close to that kind of context-awareness.
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    This is what I feel is important:

    * A file manager and the possibility to see files transferred via bluetooth wich I cant today
    * Solve the problem of growing "other" memory
    * Make it possible to install maps and at least some apps to SD-car so phones like Htc 8S can be useful
    * A notification center
    * Independent volume for sound and phone-signal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Drewskie View Post
    Ok so I've read through the many pages of suggestions and below will be a conglomeration of what I think are the best suggestions for Microsoft to implement ...not in any order at all!


    • Notification center: Of course Swipe style with volume profiles and brightness and basic comm options like wifi, internet sharing, airplane mode or options to have as many of them or none.


    • Landscape mode for start screen a la Windows 8


    • Custom SMS message tones and while they're at it for alarms too


    • On device File Explorer with options for deleting, copy, paste, send to.


    • In relation to the File Explorer I want better sync options. Cloud is cool but I want to sync My documents and whatever files I see fit to My device and to have intelligent sync.


    • Integrated Skype


    • "Select all" function expanded to entire device and not just SMS


    • Flashing or glowing Windows logo for visual notification (Silent mode?)


    • Option to disable text preview on start screen.


    • Calender: Live tile options for a clock and date with different size, style and layout options. Live tile flip to show upcoming events or a ticker option


    • Volume profiles (Silent with no vibe, Vibe, Low, Medium and High) Also, completely separate sliders for games, music and alarms


    • Exit button in Task Manager


    • DIRECT TO DIALER FOR PHONE BUTTON (with buttons at top or bottom or swipe left or right for phone book and recent calls. Also recent calls should have tabs for out and in calls with search function) Dialer should auto complete as you dial to show either recent call or contacts JUST LIKE Windows Mobile did


    • Device wide search function


    • A FORWARD BUTTON IN IE only because UC doesn't work for my banking website or I would just use that all the time.


    • One point for Office I noticed is Excel is missing some options I would very much like to have ie add or remove lines or columns


    I understand that's more than 8 but that's what the forums are for. What do you guys think is my list overkill or perfect?
    I'm going to say this again and again, this is the best list of upgrades Windows Phone NEEDS
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    #149  
    We really need number four which is the X to close apps or swipe to close apps or something. Its so frustrating BASHING my back button to close apps which sometimes freezes my phone
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    1. A common storage area for user files, accessible by all apps, with a standard file browser that apps can use
    (by far the most important)

    2. Orientation lock
    3. Music player with gapless playback and browsing by folder (3rd party apps can do this but only if 1. is implemented)
    4. Parental controls. (Like the controls on Windows. Kid's corner is a gimmick.)
    5. Built-in SIP VOIP
    6. VPN
    7. Notifications
    8. True multitasking and option to close applications

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