- 02-10-2013, 07:06 AM #127
- 02-10-2013, 02:43 PM #128
I don't see why Microsoft doesn't tackle each issue individually and then release it. Say for example the notification center. Make it, test it then release it and move on to the next like email or sound profile fixes. Why not do that instead of releasing it all in one update. Imagine how much more exciting things would be if we were getting updates every few weeks instead of every few months.
02-11-2013, 10:03 AM #129
- 77 Posts
The portico update didn't add much useful stuff, it fixed a few issues, I hope the next update looks to start making WP8 as smart as android or windows mobile OS, because that's the major detractor for me; file management, downloading any file and saving to the phone, and email attachments are a big problem and i can't see why they would want to limit those functions.
I also forgot to add to my previous list. MS should fix the clocks and alarms apps; such a brilliant swipe system for WP8, so they decide to make the alarms and world clock separate apps. Stupid stupid stupid, it should be one app, with a stop watch and a timer as well. Maybe throw in the quiet time function into it as well.
- 02-11-2013, 03:43 PM #130
Some of this is probably redundant, but:
1) Notification Center - even if it was on the lockscreen and being able to go straight to that notification by selecting the icon, right there on the lockscreen.
2) Folders - there HAS to be SOME way of cleaning up the long list of apps!!! There's no way I want to pin everything to start, and the list can become very disorganized (alphbetical order isn't always sufficient).
3) Profiles - having an easier way to set the audio/vibrate functions for different situations would be excellent, rather than always having to maually turn up/down or off all together.
4) Universal Search - I don't think this needs explained at all.
5) Apps - The new kernel was supposed to make porting easier for devs..... and there were many promises of big apps being ported, but these have STILL yet to see the light of day on WP8. There are plenty of apps that list iOS, Android, and BB..... BB!!!!! with no WP8 anywhere to be seen!!!!! Are you kidding me???
6) Battery Life - I know its not just a problem on 920's...... something is happening that sucks the sh*t out of the battery life. And I don't think I should have to disable every app from background tasks, turn off wi-fi, nfc, etc just to get a days use out of my phone.
7) True Multitasking - I don't think this needs explanation, nor do I think it's truly possible with the phone's battery life.
8) Surface Phone - I understand it might hurt MS's relationship with OEMs, but they released a tablet, didn't they??? I truly believe that if MS wants to start putting a dent into the Apple/Android marketshare, they should release their own phone. Period. That way, deficiencies/updates/etc could all be handled without all the 3rd party interference with customer experiences.
- 02-11-2013, 06:01 PM #131
7) As explained in many other threads, supporting unrestricted/true multitasking would be a terrible idea, not just due to the taxation on battery life.
8) You are taking experiences from Android and assuming WP works similarly. This isn't true. Every WP device is essentially equivalent to a Google Nexus device. Although a Surface Phone may have some benefits, the one you are referring to isn't one of them. Microsoft can update any device at any time without causing any technical difficulties. OEM intervention isn't required. I don't know why Microsoft doesn't distribute updates directly, but the reasons aren't technical.
02-11-2013, 11:03 PM #134
- 77 Posts
Google had to do their own phone series, because if they didn't, no one else, certainly no OEM or especially a carrier would push it for them. Fragmentation, was, and still is a major issue with android, and from my experience, bugs, malware, and lack of updates is incredibly annoying for a phone which is supposed to be open and user friendly.
By releasing the nexus line, they basically defined what an android phone had to be; MS has already done that with its specs for windows phones, and you just look at the lumia phones, there is some differentiation, but i really struggle to see, hardware wise, what can possibly be done to either a HTC 8X or Lumia 920 to improve it, at this stage, the only thing in all honesty is improve battery life, and still improve camera quality, beyond that, nothing really worthwhile, it's mainly software things which are really annoying with WP8. At the moment, the bugs in WP8 are very minor, it's just user functions and flexibility of the platform which needs catching up, and i really hope they do add those things.
02-11-2013, 11:25 PM #135
- 5 Posts
- Notification Center: They would need to rewrite considerable parts of the API for that. It would take some time.
- Universal Search: Why? Useless on a phone.
- Instagram: Not MS' fault FB is stuck up
- 'X' to Close Apps: I admit that would be nice in multitasking...
- Better Xbox Gaming: No. If you want Xbox gaming, get an Xbox
- Folders: No comment
- Independent volume and profiles: I've always viewed that feature as for the lazy.
- Fix Xbox Music and Video: No comment
02-12-2013, 08:47 AM #138
- 8 Posts
When I first putdown a BlackBerry and picked up a Windows Phone one of things that drew me inwas its paradigm to be a smarter phone:
At the time, Androidwas complicated - overrun with menus, cluttered with widgets. iPhone was allabout silos - hop-in, hop-out, you do the hokey-pokey and that's what it wasall about - constantly re-entering the same data at each silo...
Ahh but WindowsPhone.... It "was" fast, fluid, with whimsical animations that mademy device feel alive all while intuitively managing background tasks so Ididn't have to. And i got a lot bit moreout of my battery than those other smartphones did (always to my friendssurprise)....
but what it didbetter than any other phone was it was smarter, more efficient. the language ofreduction, and the focus on typographyand hierarchy made it easier and faster to consume content. It surfaced information faster too. Dedicatedcamera button... I never missed the shot, even if my friends did.. "Onetouch" to Bing that made my friends think I could do black magic when iwas able to tag a song at the pub faster or "Scout" the perfectrestaurant or bar when we were traveling...in fact my Windows Phone pretty muchalways "Smoked" those other phones...
But now in WindowsPhone 8 i feel the platform is going in a different direction... so focused onapps and of course i know it's important for the ecosystem to grow, but are welosing our way?...App connect was such a great concept - I wasn't constantly re-enteringdata: the restaurant information was passed to reservation app which was thenpassed to my navigation app... Now the paradigm i hoped to avoid I'm consumedby. I'm in and out of the People Hub and The Facebook App because thefunctionality of the hub hasn't really expanded since 7.5. Do I go into thePeople Hub or the Facebook app? and Twitter or LinkedIn? Still no Foursquaresupport in the hub? Which is faster -hubs or app silos? Which do I use - thehubs or the individual apps? it's becoming always a dilemma and one that'swasting my time...
All the while, The latest Androids are making great advancesin building the next "smarter" phone. With Google Now you get allthis information that is relevant surfaced to you, a smarter mobile device. Withouteven searching, relevant information is surfaced to you. Mobile boarding passesdelivered directly to you, intuitively, when you arrive at the airport,notifications pop-up on your phone "It's time to leave for work in themorning," based on the current traffic conditions, search results beforeyou search, sports scores of teams you've searched for, translate and currencycards for when you leave the country, your hotel confirmation email when youarrive to check-in at the hotel... My friends' Jelly Beans are becoming sweeterthan my Windows Phone...AND they're arriving at the information I need fasterthan I can now with the new Google Now assistant. ...It's impressive and it's the nextlevel in the intuitive assistant smartphone - crunching all the data so youdont have to; and, something I can't help think might make my day moreefficient and easier than my Windows Phone currently can.. And Key Lime Pie?Who doesn't like key lime pie, it only sounds like it's getting better..
yeah live tiles haveevolved and yeah they're certainly more personal than they were in WindowsPhone 7.5, that glance and go is still a great concept, but I wouldn't bet itall on black on live tiles where most are updated as infrequently as hours, andstill yet most developers haven't wrapped their heads around the potential oflive tiles and aren't deploying live tiles in their applications to fullpotential..
What we need NOW inWindows Phone 8 is to tighten up what was first started in Windows Phone 7 andthat's to be the smarter smartphone. If we don't have apps from all theairlines then we need for our OS to fill in and surface mobile boarding passesfrom our email when we arrive at the airport...and all the little things Ican't think to do, but that my smartphone could. We need a Google Now onWindows Phone 8 Yesterday. Because, "yesterday all my troubles seemed so far away."
- 02-12-2013, 09:03 AM #140
I still use Google Voice but if I was THAT stuck on Google as a whole, I would have stayed with Android. The only thing about this phone I can't quite get my head around is that Office (a Microsoft product) is not nearly as functional as the Android alternatives (Documents to Go, Quickoffice Pro, etc.). I can't even add/delete rows in the spreadsheet for pete's sake! I'm sorry but I really do expect more from a Microsoft phone. I'm hoping this will improve with time but for now I'm left to work around this issue. Oh and what's with the inability to email PDF's as attachments? C'mon MS, if nothing else, I expect a Windows phone to do Office better than anything else out there.
- 02-12-2013, 09:04 AM #141
Honestly, Android has a lot of little nifty features. Sure, the average user might not utilise them all - or not even see them because they are running a modified and/or outdated version of Android. But if you're a computer enthusiast and don't mind tinkering (and some terrible programmer UI), you're going to get huge kicks out of it. Heck, just think of the possibilities of the RGB notification LED on the Nexus 4.
I'm interested in developing for WP8 though, so I guess I'm keeping my hands off the Nexus 4 for now.
02-12-2013, 09:13 AM #143
- 16 Posts
Saw the Google now video and thought that it is just live tiles with bigger display. The information could be easily replaced with more dynamic information in live tiles. E.g., display the traffic and eta information for usual routes in the Nokia Drive tile.
02-12-2013, 09:40 AM #144
- 291 Posts
1. Show SMS Delivery reports as a tick or something inside message, NOT as a separate message.
2. Independent volume and profiles
3. A better music player
4. A Simple File Manager
5. Installing apps to SD Card or allow some apps to write on SD Card.
8. Support navigation in Iran (Nokia Drive+ app) - This more relates to Nokia...
I'm happy with my Lumia 620 right now, but if those 8 things become available, then I'll be much more happy :)
- 02-12-2013, 10:16 AM #146
02-14-2013, 06:46 AM #147
- 35 Posts
This is what I feel is important:
* A file manager and the possibility to see files transferred via bluetooth wich I cant today
* Solve the problem of growing "other" memory
* Make it possible to install maps and at least some apps to SD-car so phones like Htc 8S can be useful
* A notification center
* Independent volume for sound and phone-signal
02-14-2013, 07:41 PM #150
- 11 Posts
1. A common storage area for user files, accessible by all apps, with a standard file browser that apps can use
(by far the most important)
2. Orientation lock
3. Music player with gapless playback and browsing by folder (3rd party apps can do this but only if 1. is implemented)
4. Parental controls. (Like the controls on Windows. Kid's corner is a gimmick.)
5. Built-in SIP VOIP
8. True multitasking and option to close applications
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