- 02-13-2013, 10:59 AM #1
The new PDF reader update is disappointing at best.
While we can now delete files, the upload to Skydrive is not a solution. In fact it is a way to loose potential customers.
For midsize companies outside the US the Skydrive solution is a NO-GO as many documents are confidential and as there is no way that they will accept uploading such sensitive data to US based servers. US corporations tend to forget that in Germany for example Mittelstand companies provide 70% of all the jobs... all over the world mid sized companies provide millions of jobs and they will not upload to US servers, because they compete against US companies.
This kind of poor software is hurting WP8 market share and device sales, so Nokia, HTC and Samsung are hurt by this simple missing feature.
We need to be able to download files to a folder or into the PDF application, then mail them over our exchange servers or Kerio mail server or whatever, that is not based in the US to the final destination. Very often such a destination would be inside the corporate email network.
So, I find the MS solution kind of short sighted and maybe even insulting to some people in a way...
MS must make it possible to send files from our folders on our WP8 devices, this without the files going over US servers. It is a question of market share and it works on Android and iOS devices.
- 02-13-2013, 11:07 AM #3
- 02-13-2013, 11:13 AM #4
Look at market share of WP8 in Germany!
Then look at the market share of Android and iOS...
You don't get it do you... In Business Europe and the US are not friends... we compete!
Who makes the nice cars?
Who makes the nice luxury bags?
Who makes the $3'000.- watches?
Who makes the special machines to build the stuff..
We do in Europe... especially in Germany!
- 02-13-2013, 11:20 AM #6
Looking at current marketshare is highly misleading. WP has only been around for a couple years, and actively pushed for 3 months. Of course their market share is going to be negligible.
As for US and EU competing and all the overpriced stuff you guys make over there... What does that have to do with anything? I don't see you making phones (Nokia the exception) or OSes (OSii?). If you want to support an EU phone manufacturer, buy a Nokia.
EU info is stored in Dublin and Amsterdam, probably in a couple more locations since then.
- 02-13-2013, 11:28 AM #7
In Europe we make expensive stuff and we sell it well. As to electronics, that is all made in Asia these days because the whole manufacturing industry is there and you better manufacture where the parts suppliers are.
To get back to the subject... It is no big deal to add the ability to send files from inside an app like PDF reader. IF MS will not do it, they will not get the market share they need with small to medium sized companies outside the US. Business it about profits, not politics!
- 02-13-2013, 11:35 AM #9
I actually find the workflow through SkyDrive to be far more efficient than everyone having their own individual (and potentially not up to date) copies of a document stored locally.
And before you use the security argument of the cloud, if the security of your document is that important, it should never be winding up on a phone to begin with.
02-13-2013, 01:27 PM #10
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If MS store EU data only in Dublin and/or Amsterdam, that's a Bad Thing. Cloud storage should be replicated to at least four locations, two of which should ideally be on different continents or located so that one natural disaster could not affect both datacenters.
- 02-13-2013, 01:32 PM #11
- 02-13-2013, 01:52 PM #12
- 02-13-2013, 02:04 PM #13
Guys, whether it's in the US or Europe, if you can't attach a PDF to an email you're not going very far with the enterprise sector. Now let's give credit where credit is due. Coolknight1968 has a legit argument. Some of the world's greatest inventions have been of German origin. Guttenberg's printing press, the internal combustion engine (Otto cycle), the Diesel engine, the Wankel engine, the list goes on and on. Here in the States, we just do it with style!
- 02-13-2013, 02:36 PM #16
The biggest difference, is you can choose who can see it in SkyDrive (either individually via login, or anyone who has the link), and you know they will be viewing the most up to date version, not one that has been emailed around with untracked changes. I would say the SkyDrive/SharePoint workflow is more secure.
- 02-13-2013, 02:48 PM #18
- 02-13-2013, 02:59 PM #19I don't have the time to create a link and then send that same link on an email that could have had the document on it in the first place
My recipient doesn't have the time to open a link to find a document that could have been on his terminal already.
When I want to define who sees a document I simply add them as recipients.
- 02-13-2013, 03:29 PM #20
- 02-13-2013, 03:34 PM #21
The problem is where the file goes. i.e. Mittelstand company makes a CNC machine, do you think they feel comfortable if they feel that some documents on US servers could be grabbed by the NSA and given to Haas?
Would you store your data in China? This is how this is viewed by Mittelstand companies, it just results in lost WP8 device sales.
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