- 02-25-2013, 05:55 AM #1
So, people say there isn't much separating Windows Phones apart - too much standardisation. So, it must be easy for manufacturers to get the few possible differentiators perfect, right? Let's take a look at one such area for Windows Phone 8 devices, storage:
8S: 4GB + microSD
Lumia 920: 32GB
Lumia 822: 16GB + microSD
Lumia 820: 8GB + microSD
Lumia 810: 8GB + microSD
Lumia 720: 8GB + microSD
Lumia 620: 8GB + microSD
Lumia 520: 8GB + microSD
Ativ S: 16/32GB + microSD
Ativ Odyssey: 8GB + microSD
So, let's get this straight. HTC has two WP8 devices, that together make up the "signature line" of Windows Phones. In other words, Microsoft loves the heck out of these phones and thinks they are the hero devices. Yet the 8X is the worst non-expandable device, maxing out at 16GB. The 8S is the worst expandable device, with the 4GB of internal storage restricting users from installing many apps. And of course, Nokia just unveiled a certain Lumia with 8GB of internal storage and microSD support...
at an estimated starting price of €139 before taxes and subsidies.
And last year's One X and One X+ offered storage from 16GB to 64GB.
The company also unveiled Sense 5 on its new flagship, which includes a somewhat familiar home screen called "BlinkFeed":
To top it off, Pocket-lint reports that "there are no current plans" to migrate HTC's Zoe Camera technology to Windows Phone.
Of course, Nokia had no problem implementing a tonne of camera features through Lenses, not to mention OIS on the hardware side.
I hope someone at Microsoft recently got fired.
02-25-2013, 07:00 AM #2
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HTC may not be putting much effort into WP, but Samsang are putting even less into WP.
Its difficult, but Microsoft need to try and help make WP more than just a vessel for selling Nokia phones. Otherwise it just becomes a one horse race.
Although rather annoyingly, HTC & Samsung aren't really bothering (even with Microsofts money), still making it a one horse race.
- 02-25-2013, 07:33 AM #6
Why getting to conclussions on what HTC and Samsung are doing or not doing? There are rumors both have surprises coming in the next few months, especially when they went public about new devices coming (and expected at least by Sprint and other carriers this summer).
- 02-25-2013, 07:50 AM #7
This entire post is ridiculous. HTC isn't giving the finger to WP. They are a struggling company with a variety of products out there. Android is their focus, as it has been since 2008. The 8x is a solid phone, one that many people are enjoying .Yes, it lacks storage, but not everyone wants or cares about that. 16gb is plenty for me, as I use Skydrive and Stream my music, and I'm sure there are others that feel the same.
Nokia only has Windows Phone. They bet their entire company on this, so of course they are going to go above and beyond the other OEMs when making and marketing their products. It's literally all they have. HTC is low on funds at the moment, so they are putting their efforts and money into what they feel is going to keep them going, and right now that's Android. Also, the whole Zoe thing is just a report, not a definitive response. Though, for the life of me I cannot fathom why people are so excited over 3 second video clips.
It seems like I'm seeing these posts on almost a daily basis anymore. People need to stop overreacting and buy the product that makes them happy.
- 02-25-2013, 08:27 AM #8
So a struggling company needs to concentrate more on a things that bring them the least revenue? You should run for Congress. That's the type of business savy that sent our economy down the crapper. Nice presentation though. lol
- 02-25-2013, 08:50 AM #10
Gotta say I loves me some AngryNil in the morning. I agree with JerseySal that HTC is not going to put money into something that's almost guaranteed to make less revenue (unfortunately that is Windows Phone), however I agree with AngryNil that the whole "Signature" line thing might as well be dropped because honestly, if anything screams "Signature" for WP, is Nokia hardware.
02-25-2013, 08:55 AM #12
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As with many things, I think MS deserves some blame here. HTC is probably focused mainly on Android because they can't put their best hardware in a WP phone. The One has a newer Snapdragon chipset and 1080 screen, both not supported by WP. When you're struggling like HTC is, you want to get the best product you can make out there in front of consumers, and they can't do that with a WP phone.
02-25-2013, 10:29 AM #13
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- 02-25-2013, 10:46 AM #14
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- 02-25-2013, 11:00 AM #16
Nokia has always been there flagship in my mind regardless if what name the htc windows phone 8x has... If there is one thing MS has never understood , it's branding and advertising. I hope they can figure this out sooner than later...
02-25-2013, 11:11 AM #17
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I think you both missed my point. The point is that if HTC can't really put their best hardware on WP due to MS rules, they're probably just going to continue making low to mid range phones for WP. Especially since their potential profits from WP are still pretty low right now. That's it. No need to get all defensive about Nokia here.
02-25-2013, 11:32 AM #20
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Well, it comes to that in the end doesn't it?
You say that HTC is concentrating on Android because of the hardware restrictions in the WP. That means either that HTC feels it can't compete inside WP8 when restricted to those or that they feel that they can't sell such devices in general. The latter sounds quite odd considering their wish to make the signature devices and everything.
- 02-25-2013, 01:24 PM #23
LG bought WebOS, Samsung is testing their own OS, HTC is on their way to making a kindle like non android android, apple will have iOS, Nolia will have WP. When this happens (not if), we are all going to be better off when most apps are web apps that run on all devices. They will figure out notifications through the browser and off we go. That is the future, and this is why Google will grow their Nexus line because those will be the android devices.
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