04-26-2013, 12:13 PM #1
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Don't get me wrong but I have a Lumia 710 and a Lumia 620. I love my Lumia 620 and I use it as a daily driver. I gave my Lumia 710 to my wife as a backup phone and recently I fiddled with it again and noticed that IE9 in WP7.5 rocks. I mean if I switch to another tab the switching is very fast unlike on my Lumia 620 where the page always reload --- what gives? I recently upgraded my Lumia 710 to WP7.8 and it seems to be better and more stable than WP8. Even the people hub loads picture much faster in WP7.5/7.8 than in WP8. Are you guys having the same experience? I was about to sell my Lumia 710 but I decided to keep it for good. Hope Microsoft sorts this problem asap.
Let me know what you think.
04-27-2013, 09:33 AM #7
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- 04-27-2013, 10:13 AM #8
I can't imagine going to 1GB of RAM would be very hard, it's not a large or expensive component. I'm under the impression that RAM is being used by Nokia as a differentiator between their higher and lower end devices, which I do not like since 512MB is proving to be too little. Should've been 2GB for the higher end and 1GB for the lower end.
- 04-27-2013, 10:30 AM #9
Keep in mind that the devices that you're talking about are low-end phones. You can't expect them to load them up with 1GB ram like Android flagships or mid-tier phones. At that price point, even Android phones only use 512mb ram themselves (ie.- the latest Sony Xperia SP which costs roughly $400, comparable to the L720).
- 04-27-2013, 12:27 PM #11
- 04-27-2013, 12:56 PM #12
04-27-2013, 01:19 PM #13
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You've bumped into the limits of both 7.5 and 7.8, nothing more, nothing less. This version of WP OS will run the app, but because of its design, won't run newer apps with any kind of "speed" or efficiency for that matter. There is NO getting around it.
- 04-27-2013, 08:45 PM #16
If I'm not wrong, RAM would play a big part in the limited number of background tasks you can enable at once on your device. Down the road, I also see more background tasking scenarios which will have to be restricted on 512MB devices.
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- 04-27-2013, 10:14 PM #17
I have absolutely no problems whatsoever with browsing speed on my 8X even after weeks of uptime, night and day difference from my HD7. That being said I occasionally see some tabs being unloaded/reloaded but this is usually after a week of uptime when I see it and it doesn't happen often, just on poorly coded sites like meetme.com.
- 04-28-2013, 05:28 AM #18
- 04-28-2013, 06:20 AM #19
If the end user doesn't know/care about RAM differences or screen differences or processor differences, why let go of $5 and hurt my sales of my flagship phone?
"…ordinary consumers will benefit from being able to play the best games on WP8 and not having their tabs unloaded frequently."
Also, the Lumia 720 isn't cheap. Engadget agrees that the internals simply aren't up to scratch. Of course, this is a great example of your first point: it's far more attractive than the 820 in pretty much every aspect except for internals. I'm of the opinion that purposely downgrading an experience simply to preserve your more expensive products is a bad move. If Apple made the iPad laggy or expensive, it might have obtained more Mac sales, but the iPad wouldn't be the smash hit that it is.
- 04-28-2013, 05:13 PM #20
Comparing iPhone 5 with Samsung S2 - isn't a comparison.
In the same fashion, comparing low end Lumia with high end Lumia or any other high-end experience isn't a comparison.
What is the target market for low-end device users? Ordinary consumers who were given such an experience with Android low end devices are the ones who today cannot argue or reject my statement : "If you want a real Android experience don't buy cheap low end stuff, buy a Nexus or a GSG3". That comes after years of low end Androids that were exactly like you described - being able to play the best games, but the user experience was beyond awful! Why would anyone want WP to be known for laggy games?
- 04-28-2013, 09:37 PM #21
And back to the thread at hand, roaspiras is finding his 620 to have problems web browsing where the 710 didn't. That's not any unfair comparison, and quite concerning, especially since I was considering the 620 in case I didn't want to fork up the extra money for the 8X.
- There are plenty of games that already suffer from bad frame rates on Windows Phone flagships.
- What you are saying has little relevance to bumping the RAM to 1GB. The MSM8227 is capable of outputting to WVGA – perhaps even better than the MSM8950 can handle WXGA.
- Have you actually tried an 2012 – 2013 Android phone in the Lumia 720's price range that had a "beyond awful" experience in Temple Run? Keep in mind TR has swipe registration issues on Windows Phone.
Not trying to bash on Windows Phone, but gaming is far from its forte. Android is far better than some of you will admit, and it really serves no purpose to falsely downplay it when it's the competition that Windows Phone has to make inroads into. This is coming from someone who was captured by Windows Phone in February 2010.
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