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    I'm sorry to say this but after a few day of research i learn that File manager/explorer is not a missing feature but Microsoft try not to include this into WP. i understand this is because they want to have a high security OS. but without that third party app won't able to access our file like Metrotube's download videos won't show up in Music + Video hub. if i download a pdf file from other source i need to choose an app to run them so if i choose Microsoft own pdf reader then Other third party app can't access that file, also in HD Photo Viewer it can't really do anything to photo, we can't delete edit or send them we need to use system app that we know it sucks. this is only a few things that bug me on this platform.

    So i want to ask will WP eventually get a decent File manager in future update? if not i'm sorry but to quit the platform. i don't know for all of you thinking about this feature but for most people a file manager is a must for an OS.
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    For the average person, a file manager on their phone is far from a must. I can honestly say that there has been maybe been one time I wanted an Android style manager, and I got over it pretty quickly. It is easy sometimes for techies to forgot that the average person doesn't use their phone like us.
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    A must? Hm...interesting. I'm pretty much glued to my phone and I've never had a need for a file manager. When I had one on my old Windows Mobile phones I rarely even used it. WP doesn't have one and iOS doesn't have one, so how can you assume that most people MUST have this? There's more to this world than your own opinions...
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    Quote Originally Posted by phing77 View Post
    I'm sorry to say this but after a few day of research i learn that File manager/explorer is not a missing feature but Microsoft try not to include this into WP. i understand this is because they want to have a high security OS. but without that third party app won't able to access our file like Metrotube's download videos won't show up in Music + Video hub. if i download a pdf file from other source i need to choose an app to run them so if i choose Microsoft own pdf reader then Other third party app can't access that file, also in HD Photo Viewer it can't really do anything to photo, we can't delete edit or send them we need to use system app that we know it sucks. this is only a few things that bug me on this platform.

    So i want to ask will WP eventually get a decent File manager in future update? if not i'm sorry but to quit the platform. i don't know for all of you thinking about this feature but for most people a file manager is a must for an OS.
    I'm not up on how all things work on this phone. But if it means not having a file manager because of security reasons, then so be it -- it's not a 'must' for me either. However, what is a must for me is security.
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    I've never needed a file manager for any phone, ever
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    There is really no necessity for a file explorer when apps are still restricted to its own isolated storage. When that restriction is gone like Win8, apps will be possible to access the files downloaded by other apps. Still don't need file explorer. Currently, app isolated storage folders are under a subfolder named after the application GUID. There is way you can tell which folder belongs to which app even if you have file explorer.
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    For the average person, a file manager on their phone is far from a must. I can honestly say that there has been maybe been one time I wanted an Android style manager, and I got over it pretty quickly. It is easy sometimes for techies to forgot that the average person doesn't use their phone like us.
    how about some sort of developer option to enable it? i mean this is the only thing that make my friends immediately deny to switch to windows phone. as long as they make it they can hide it anyway they want to.

    There is really no necessity for a file explorer when apps are still restricted to its own isolated storage. When that restriction is gone like Win8, apps will be possible to access the files downloaded by other apps. Still don't need file explorer. Currently, app isolated storage folders are under a subfolder named after the application GUID. There is way you can tell which folder belongs to which app even if you have file explorer.
    that's what i mean! at least make that happen! if that happen i'm sure third party file manager app will appear

    Quote Originally Posted by JammyGitz View Post
    I've never needed a file manager for any phone, ever
    maybe some thousand people who refuse to switch to WP need?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzi View Post
    I'm not up on how all things work on this phone. But if it means not having a file manager because of security reasons, then so be it -- it's not a 'must' for me either. However, what is a must for me is security.
    but isn't when app entering the store they need to get tested by Microsoft? unfortunately it is a "must" for me and i want to help WP too but maybe Security is more important than Ability for you

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    A must? Hm...interesting. I'm pretty much glued to my phone and I've never had a need for a file manager. When I had one on my old Windows Mobile phones I rarely even used it. WP doesn't have one and iOS doesn't have one, so how can you assume that most people MUST have this? There's more to this world than your own opinions...
    at least 40% of iPhone user jailbreak their phone just to get these kind of feature... and this is the reason i hate iOS now why i meet this in the OS that i love?
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    Quote Originally Posted by phing77 View Post
    that's what i mean! at least make that happen! if that happen i'm sure third party file manager app will appear
    LOL third party file manager ? You will need to breach the OS security aka jailbreak it(currently it's impossible).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaskys View Post
    LOL third party file manager ? You will need to breach the OS security aka jailbreak it(currently it's impossible).
    that is up to Microsoft to allow it or not -_- , App need to be allow to read (and write some) file in our phone memory
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    phing77, I can understand your wants for actual file management instead of the current method. unfortunately, I cannot see ms bending for any reason on its current state of opinion for file usage.

    if its a feature YOU, as a user want or need, it doesn't matter what others say isn't needed by them. find a way to work around the deficiency if its possible, or change platforms to achieve what YOU need. as quickly as software is changing, it could be implemented tomorrow, but I'm afraid will not.
    awwwww how sweeeeeet. thanks !
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    Quote Originally Posted by phing77 View Post
    but isn't when app entering the store they need to get tested by Microsoft? unfortunately it is a "must" for me and i want to help WP too but maybe Security is more important than Ability for you
    Like I said I'm not up on all things to do with WP. But do app updates get tested like the apps themselves?

    Furthermore, why would ability be more important than Security? If that's the case, then surely you would have Android if Microsoft don't allow it?

    I really don't get why it's so important to you, unless you are a hacker?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ohgood View Post
    phing77, I can understand your wants for actual file management instead of the current method. unfortunately, I cannot see ms bending for any reason on its current state of opinion for file usage.

    if its a feature YOU, as a user want or need, it doesn't matter what others say isn't needed by them. find a way to work around the deficiency if its possible, or change platforms to achieve what YOU need. as quickly as software is changing, it could be implemented tomorrow, but I'm afraid will not.
    Thank for understanding my feeling. but an great OS is an OS that help people do thing easier not to tell people not to do that... i can't but hope that they'll bring them in Blue update. this is my last try :(
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    I want a File Manager on a secure Windows Phone. I have used File Mangers on every PC computer and Windows Mobile device I've owned. I don't need access to the OS or App program files. I think there should be a File Explorer to give me easy access to my files.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzi View Post
    Like I said I'm not up on all things to do with WP. But do app updates get tested like the apps themselves?

    Furthermore, why would ability be more important than Security? If that's the case, then surely you would have Android if Microsoft don't allow it?
    i'm usually download content from other source like file hosting website but in WP no we can't, if i download a mp3 file from my "own" website i only able to play it i can't save it. Now let see on Android you need to have root access but on WP root is not possible so why not let's app has control over multimedia file and leave the system alone?

    I really don't get why it's so important to you, unless you are a hacker?
    No! it's important to a lot people. not every people buy music from Xbox, not every one love using cloud base service( skydrive ) not everyone like to switch their app just to watch youtube video that already downloaded.
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    Root your phone like I did and do what Microsoft failed to do.
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    Isn't skydrive the new file manager?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Rush View Post
    I want a File Manager on a secure Windows Phone. I have used File Mangers on every PC computer and Windows Mobile device I've owned. I don't need access to the OS or App program files. I think there should be a File Explorer to give me easy access to my files.
    YES!
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    MS should permit a file manager on Windows Phone. Sure, most users may not need it, but I don't think there's a need to shut off your potential power-users and send them to Android.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phing77 View Post
    i'm usually download content from other source like file hosting website but in WP no we can't, if i download a mp3 file from my "own" website i only able to play it i can't save it. Now let see on Android you need to have root access but on WP root is not possible so why not let's app has control over multimedia file and leave the system alone?

    No! it's important to a lot people. not every people buy music from Xbox, not every one love using cloud base service( skydrive ) not everyone like to switch their app just to watch youtube video that already downloaded.
    Have you tried to download your mp3 using UC browser?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcman88 View Post
    Isn't skydrive the new file manager?
    internet connection :(
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSean490 View Post
    Root your phone like I did and do what Microsoft failed to do.
    root windows phone 8?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bilzkh View Post
    MS should permit a file manager on Windows Phone. Sure, most users may not need it, but I don't think there's a need to shut off your potential power-users and send them to Android.
    unfortunately it doesn't seem that to be that way
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    Jesus just buy an android, end of topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phing77 View Post
    internet connection :(
    Your "smartphone" doesn't have internet connection?
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    Quote Originally Posted by phing77 View Post
    root windows phone 8?
    They haven't worked it out yet?

    Sorry, I haven't really looked at WP8 homebrew, figured it'd be as easy as WP7's. Well then, from the sounds of it, my rooted WP7 has more core functionality than WP8 lol.
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