- 06-16-2013, 11:05 PM #3
I continue to take issue with the notification centre being placed to the right of the task switcher. No, it's not one swipe away, it includes a long press that I'd bet many users don't even know about, let alone use. If you've actually thought about using it, it's far more clunky than any other implementation – next to the tiles, launched from a tile or swiped down from the top. You've kind of dumped a little too much into the task switcher in general. For example, we have a hardware search button so there's no reason why universal search should be in the task switcher. As for IE, I'm not sure how I feel about triple tap, and back + forward need to be on the app bar, simple and plain. Don't think find on page and recent need to be that prominent.
Pretty darn sweet concepts you've got in there, though. I like a lot of them.
- 06-16-2013, 11:12 PM #4
I always felt that the notification center should be accessed by the double tapping of the home button.Phones: Nokia Lumia Icon, Nokia Lumia 928, HTC Windows Phone 8x, HTC Trophy
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- 06-17-2013, 01:59 AM #5
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- 06-17-2013, 04:42 AM #10
My point is that since toast notifications already provide a quick and immediate access to the notifications, there is no particular need for WP notification centre to have fast access to it as a design priority number one since toast notifications cover that already.
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I really want notification center. Its true that Live Tiles was made to somehow replace notification center but if possible I do not want to clutter my home screen with all apps just for the sake getting a glace at a toast. Oh, another feature that's missing right now is 'hide the keyboard'. ITS HUGE, blocking half the screen and sometimes I cannot select the typing field behind it.
- 06-17-2013, 08:00 AM #16
Toasts appear for a few seconds. It is simply ridiculous to call that sufficient for quick access. That's poor justification for complicating the heck out of the aggregation service (notification centre). In fact, there is little reason to de-emphasise ease of use for any aspect of Windows Phone, let alone for a core feature like a notification centre.
I get it, you like the task switcher implementation. That's fine, but you don't have to pull arguments out of thin air to support your preference. "Without interruptions to the general user experience" is baseless considering Windows Phone is the odd one out without a swipe-down notification centre. And perhaps you forget that the task switcher wasn't even in the original release of the OS. Why was the addition of the task switcher an acceptable interruption, insofar that you want to dump everything in there, whereas a different access method for the notification centre isn't?
- 06-17-2013, 08:42 AM #17
I think there's real benefit in the task switcher implementation because there are no visual interruptions between application and notification centre if it's inside the task switcher screen. And there isn't. The zoom effect that occurs after the long press takes the user outside of the application they were using and keeps the original application visible through the whole transition. No visual interruptions. User is now outside the application, it's very obvious for an user now that they are now dealing with information from another applications. Accessing notification centre takes the same time as switching between applications. How exactly are these baseless arguments?
Swipe-down notification centre is very inconvenient gesture, especially when the screen sizes keep on increasing. I would not consider that one a good example at all. Any kind of swipe-down drawer would also be inconsistent UI pattern for WP, since it's not used anywhere else.
What point you're trying to make with talking about the task switcher not originally being there, you'll have to elaborate on that. I have no idea what that has to do with this issue.
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- 06-17-2013, 07:44 PM #21
Multitask should be long press back, notification center should be long press home, and voice settings should be long press search. Quick settings can go along with the notification center.
I like the concept posted here on how separate voice controls could work. I hope that comes in 8.1. Along with call blocking. And a bunch of other stuff :p
- 06-18-2013, 12:41 AM #23
- Swipe down: swipe. Notification centre is an overlay, like the lock screen. Seems understandable.
- Left of tiles: go to start, swipe. Just like the home screen (tiles and app list). Seems understandable.
- Double tap start: double tap button, any animation can be used. This is very flexible.
- Task switcher: long hold button, swipe…
If all users somehow are super familiar with the task switcher, then your argument may make sense. But they aren't. All other implementations are more obvious and more easily accessible. I take your point with reach for the swipe down, but it isn't the only implementation being discussed. (And really, phablet users really just show that one handed use isn't a must. Reach isn't that big of a concern with two hands.)
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