- 08-11-2013, 07:00 PM #1
Hi there. I wasn't sure on where to ask this, so I asked on this forum.
In the end of the month I (plan) to buy a Windows Phone. However just recently Samsung dropped the price on Ativ S on Brazil. Now its price is the same as the Lumia 820.
Which one is better? Ativ S has bigger screen and better front camera, but Nokia who its sharing the love on WP. Any thoughts?
- 08-11-2013, 07:45 PM #5
I didn't mentioned before, both devices are being sold with no carrier attached. (brazilians don't buy phones through carries usually, really).
08-11-2013, 08:06 PM #7
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I have both Ativ S and L820.
The thing is... Lumia only wins cause of Nokia apps, but seems we can install the most important ones no matter manufacture so... :)
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- 08-11-2013, 10:37 PM #11
It boils down to your usage. If all is tied, get the Ativ S. Better experience because it is high end, while the 820 is just a high MID-RANGE. Unless you need all "Nokia exclusives", and honestly, most of the good ones like their transport and navigation apps are open to all WP8 phones. The only thing is that Nokia's camera apps a re nice, but again, you can get the better mileage out of Proshot and Cam 360. I think the Ativ S is a better buy. The only thing I wish it had was Qi wireless charging...if Samsung made a back cover with that built in, it would slay all other WP8s except for the Lumia 1020 and 92x as those have superior cameras.
- 08-12-2013, 04:40 AM #13
HOLD ON RIGHT THERE! (I assumed you would be running to the store any time now so I screamed :p)
I have the 820 But here are some issues with it:
Battery Drains really quick - no "tricks" work.
Heats up - The screen side of it heats up like hell sometime
And thats it! If u are ok with these two issues...GO for 820!
- 08-12-2013, 04:42 AM #14
So far I noticed that Ativ S is a better device than 820, but Nokia who delivers the better "experience" even with a lower device.
However I'm afraid of buying a Samsung, since almost all Android from them ends on dust, and Windows Phone on their minds is just a incovenience. It woudn't be nice if Nokia just made a gazillion of exclusive apps/updates in the future and the others end up dying in the water. It has been said that some Nokia apps are downloadable on ther devices but if someone change their mind in the future?
But I may be too crazy and end with a lower device. I will have all the posts on the mind when I buy the new phone. Thanks so far (and I could use any more thoughts on this).
08-12-2013, 05:08 AM #15
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The differences aren't that big, just try them out and see what fits you better.. The 820 is really solid, and what screen size do you prefer? An important thing is that they both use AMOLEDs which get criticized because of their unnatural colors, on Lumia you can add color profiles. The front facing camera, if you want to use it, sucks, that's right. But still, most important is how you like the device when you have it in your hands.
- 08-12-2013, 05:09 AM #16
Hope that helps.
But other than these:
Build Quality is A grade
Screen is beautiful
Fast and responsive 1GB RAM
Perfect in hand
and over all just perfect in everyway. Samsung may be pulling the chord on WP anytime now and anyways I have been very vocal about my hate towards Samsung.
- 08-12-2013, 06:14 AM #20
Get the Ativ S.
As much as I don't like Samsung, the 820's battery life is unacceptable.
But, you'll get that Glance Screen on the 820, it's killer feature.Windows Central has seems faster.
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- 08-12-2013, 06:27 AM #21
820 since nokia supports its windows phones so much more, exclusive apps and some awesome new features like glance screen *hopefully in next updates we could see notifications on it like nokia n9 or symbian phones) double tap to wake up, color profile, sms and call filter, and who knows what other things nokia brings along gdr3 combo.
- 08-12-2013, 07:27 AM #24
I'm in a similar spot to the OP. I have reliable online dealer I've used in the past selling the 8X for $275, the Ativ S for $290 and the 920 for $360. The 820 on their site sells between $260-$275. All are unlocked, international models. I like all three, and all three are upgrades over the 820. The 8X is the best buy of the 3 if your priority is a high WP8 experiences that plays on price and a smaller budget and if you like a smaller handset with a big screen. The Ativ S is the best buy of the 3 because if you consume a ton of media on the go (movies, etc), you get 16GB internal + memory card slot + removable battery. The 920 is the best buy of the three is budget isn't an issue as you get superior camera, wireless charging and excellent after sales support.
Hardware wise, Samsung and HTC made very good alternatives to Nokia. If Samsung and HTC threw even half of their WP7 support behind these devices, Nokia would have to innovate even more and port more of their Symbian OS stuff to WP (Glance, for example). Besides, Ativ S users will tell you you can wake the,phone by hitting either the power or the physical start key button. Ativ S now allows you to create folders on WP8.
So OP, it boils down to your needs. If you value better OEM support, swappable wireles charging shells...then go Nokia. If you want a high end experience at that price point, go Ativ S as you get a bigger screen, more memory, bigger removal battery and 2nd lightest WP model weight wise out currently (8X is the lightest).
- 08-12-2013, 11:06 AM #25
I'm getting the phone online. However there is a physcal store near me that has both, but they locked it up so its impossible to hold it.
So I have to choose between OEM support and a better device?
Just to know, what apps/functions i'm gonna be missing if I go with Ativ S?
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