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    Hey, I'm starting my Pediatrics clerkship on Monday. I have the guidelines pocketbook for my Hospital on hand, but I was wondering if you though buying the Harriet Lane (59.99) app from Unbound Medicine was worth it? Does it provide $60 worth of info?

    Also, has anyone bought the MedCalc 3000 Complete app? There's no trial and I wanted to know if it included absolutely everything or just a selected subset of calculations and criteria from each separate app. The complete and the Peds version are both $9.99, so I'm not sure.

    Good God, Unbound charges way too much :(
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    I thought I saw something about a rumored DICOM app that is suppose to be out or in development. I have seen telemetry apps and mods for iOS. (I think Philips Medical has one) I have a feeling we wont see anything like that on WP in the states. Getting that stuff through FDA's money making scam errrr approval is a pain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justop26 View Post
    I found a couple of real medical apps for pros (reference, calcs):

    Pocket Lab Values: Apparently it's an established app on other platforms. $2.99 with no trial, but seems to be a good one. Just bought it, too; it has plenty info, is fast, search works perfectly, though I'm not sure if it's really worth 3 bucks. I bought it to support the devs that do come over to WP7. http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/ap...6-220d580750db

    MPR: Monthly Prescribing Reference. This one has some more time, a month, I think. Just found it today. Seems to have a lot of info, though not as complete as others according to reviews. Gets content updates apart from actual app updates. Fast and fluid Metro. http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/ap...1-3daaaae947dd

    Medical Mnemonics: I bought this one myself. Has over a thousand ways to remember useful stuff that we're required to know in Med School. Laggy, but really useful. Info is worth well over $1.99 http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/ap...4-00237de2db9e
    Thanks, needed them
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    Really useful thread (same crowd over here, though I have 4 more years of research before going back to clinics for my dual degree).

    MPR alone convinced me that WP8 is a viable platform for medical apps. Again, can't afford Unbound apps (look cool though).

    Part of the problem is convincing the larger app community that we do in fact exist (medical professionals on WP for whatever reason). Hopefully the recent sales rate of the lumia is convincing at least a few larger developers to jump aboard.
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    I just downloaded Neuromind on my Surface RT. Another great addition to the really small library of Medical Apps on the MS ecosystem.
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    At least there is some slow movement here. I'll be really happy once there's a "Rote Liste" app out, but the MPR is a good start.
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    I have MPR on my phone and both Epocrates and Medscape on my Galaxy Tab 7.7 that I have with me at work. Medscape on WP8 would be great.
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    Hey guys, question for my wife. She has an iPhone and was looking at a 920 but is becoming a physical therapist and in her studies now is having to learn all the muscles and interactions and ligaments and all that.

    Question is...anyone know of something that would list all those things? I found a guide to the bones, but that was it, and most of the apps you are all mentioning are journals, pill guides or symptom guides.

    She uses this on her iPhone: Muscle System Pro by 3D4Medical.com : The World's largest, high quality collection of 3D medical images
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    I don't know of an app for windows phone that does. However I must say that I'd still prefer a good textbook to learning that on my phone. Not that it wouldn't be good to have some of that stuff for wp ;-).
    We didn't have that many digital resources for that sort of thing back when I had anatomy in med school but I'd still choose a good textbook over an app just for eyestrain and all.
    The digital stuff like that seems more of a supplement to better visualize complicated structures, though most of the bones, ligaments and muscles where still the simpler stuff (I'd hope you wouldn't have to bother with all the scull as a physical therapist).

    That's just my opinion though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marbla View Post
    I don't know of an app for windows phone that does. However I must say that I'd still prefer a good textbook to learning that on my phone. Not that it wouldn't be good to have some of that stuff for wp ;-).
    We didn't have that many digital resources for that sort of thing back when I had anatomy in med school but I'd still choose a good textbook over an app just for eyestrain and all.
    The digital stuff like that seems more of a supplement to better visualize complicated structures, though most of the bones, ligaments and muscles where still the simpler stuff (I'd hope you wouldn't have to bother with all the scull as a physical therapist).

    That's just my opinion though.
    Thanks for the response. She likes the current app she has because of all the layers, she can dig down into the arm and see all the layers as if you were pealing them away. The app she has is pretty spectacular, I will say that... Plus, she can hide the names and it turns into a sort of quiz.

    But yea, she has the texts books too...$400 worth for just this last semester.
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    To get back on to the thread topic: There must be a market for medical apps on windows phone. This is to the point that I have seriously pondered learning to develop for the platform just to fill that gap. Just don't know if I really have the time to do that...

    For example: There is no medication database in German. That might not sound like a big thing, but the German market is pretty big and the current English databases (one single app, finally) just aren't as useful when you need the local brand.
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    I'm surprised there aren't any... I quit being a paramedic 12 years ago, and when I quit, I had been carrying a Palm device for a few years, with ePocrates on it, and some other one I can't think of the name right now... One for looking up drugs and one for looking up diseases if I remember right, but it's been a while and the memory fades... Maybe I need some of those meds.... ;)
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    Check out “Windows Phone Dicom Viewer” and “Windows Phone Dicom Viewer Free”, the only apps in Windows Phone marketplace that can query, receive, print, display and process medical DICOM images without the need of any middleware.

    Windows Phone Dicom Viewer:
    www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/f7b639f3-9bde-4ade-8473-4963c8d520f1

    Windows Phone Dicom Viewer Free:
    www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/26d59aa0-6a63-4aba-94ca-cc717cd614e1

    The apps exist for both WP7.5 and WP8. The WP8 version can also accept incoming connections transforming the device in a mobile mini PACS!!!
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    Generally speaking I've always had a hard time understanding apps. I'd rather have a well built website that works nicely with mobile devices. It's funny how PCs have been sorta moving away from.. service specific software for a good while and you can do most of the stuff just using a browser while smartphones go the exact opposite direction. It does that much sense that with a smaller screen and no mouse/keyboard, a well designed app for touch can come in handy, but I'd still rather take that well built website over having to have a gazillion apps to do simple things.
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    Apps are good when your hospital has terrible signal. Would be nice to bring out the phone to look up treatments without having to wait minutes for the page to load. I did several rotations in new york and the internet was pretty much down half the time. It would be nice to fill that 32gb lumia 920 with useful information.
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    Looks like Unbound Medicine is pulling out of Windows Phone, or they just forgot to renew their developer subscription because all but three of their apps are gone... sad to see a plethora of medical apps just disappear for Windows Phone 7.x users. MPR is really the only medication database us professionals can use now if we have a Windows Phone and no signal... hope they don't jump ship either. This makes it extremely difficult to recommend Windows Phone to colleagues, Microsoft needs to realize that they need to hit all markets, and the professional market was largely theirs, and they're letting it bleed off.
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    Just email unbound medicine. Here is their response:

    Thank you for contacting Unbound Medicine support. Window's Phones are no
    longer supported at this time. Unbound Medicine creates applications that
    work on the same platform as Blackberry, iOS and also Android mobile
    devices. Window's Phones have recently made changes to their operating
    system that is unique and does not work the same as our other
    applications. We hope to be able to support Window's in the future but at
    this time are not able to do so because of the change to their new
    operating system for their newer phones.

    I thought the statement was weird because the apps were working on my lumia 920.

    I'm getting more disappointed with the platform at this point. It seems support for the medical community has taken a step back. I am okay without leisure apps like temple run 2 and instagram, but these medical reference guides are closer to being a requirement for me than those other apps. I hope things change in the next few months. The rumored uptodate app would really patch things up.
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    #43  
    Quote Originally Posted by DKDogz54 View Post
    Just email unbound medicine. Here is their response:

    Thank you for contacting Unbound Medicine support. Window's Phones are no
    longer supported at this time. Unbound Medicine creates applications that
    work on the same platform as Blackberry, iOS and also Android mobile
    devices. Window's Phones have recently made changes to their operating
    system that is unique and does not work the same as our other
    applications. We hope to be able to support Window's in the future but at
    this time are not able to do so because of the change to their new
    operating system for their newer phones.

    I thought the statement was weird because the apps were working on my lumia 920.

    I'm getting more disappointed with the platform at this point. It seems support for the medical community has taken a step back. I am okay without leisure apps like temple run 2 and instagram, but these medical reference guides are closer to being a requirement for me than those other apps. I hope things change in the next few months. The rumored uptodate app would really patch things up.
    I can't remember where, maybe this forum, but someone said that's a common developer excuse that they use even if it isn't true.
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    I can understand if they used that as an excuse to not update the app, but they could have just left the old one in the marketplace in the time being. Medicine doesn't change so drastically over a year. All we need is a menu, a bunch of text, and the occasional illustration for reference.
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    #45  
    What I don't understand is how they can have a BlackBerry app but then yank the Windows Phone app out of the store.
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    #46  
    Quote Originally Posted by DKDogz54 View Post
    I can understand if they used that as an excuse to not update the app, but they could have just left the old one in the marketplace in the time being. Medicine doesn't change so drastically over a year. All we need is a menu, a bunch of text, and the occasional illustration for reference.
    because they don't want to pay dev fees to keep their apps on there.... Lame but that's their way of cost cutting. All we have left is MPR. Luckily I was able to backup some of their apps. An alternative right now is using either medscape or drugs.com. Horrible, but their info is derived from like micromedex and they both have mobile sites. This wouldn't be a huge problem if lexicomp, micromedex and epocrates had mobile sites.
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    #47  
    Try this, i'm in development =) give ur suggestion about what u need for next version =)
    Medihelper | Store di app e giochi per Windows Phone (Italia)
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