View Poll Results: Do you want a file manager?
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I don't care
- 01-10-2013, 02:36 PM #4
These are what I perceive to be the main file related problems. I'm doubtful that a file explorer app is the best way to solve these though.
For anyone on this forum a file explorer app certainly wouldn't cause any problems, but for many of the more casual smartphone users it may. Such an app also has the potential to introduce security holes into the system.
- 01-10-2013, 05:59 PM #6
wow first vote for no :)
Okay the reason i voted no is i love wp8 because of the simplicity. I know having another option is great and all but i like the fact that it does not have a file explorer
- 01-10-2013, 06:35 PM #7
Furthermore, a file explorer is a solution, but whether or not that solution actually solves the problems people are experiencing is an entirely different question. I'm guessing more often than not it wouldn't.
Finally, there are usually many possible solutions to any given problem, so focusing on a particular solution without having a clear understanding of what everyone's issues are usually isn't worthwhile. I feel that is what is being done here.
- 01-10-2013, 06:50 PM #9
If your list included every required feature, I would view a file explorer app as complete overkill. I can think of multiple ways of meeting those requirements without:
a) a file explorer app
b) requiring every developer to replicate file related functionality in every app
c) compromising the security/reliability benefits offered by isolated storage (which a file explorer app would)
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01-10-2013, 07:18 PM #10
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But what about your own files? simply files, music, photos, videos and even documents,
the sd card has folders but only appears on a pc, and you can't manage them until you reach a pc.
I don't care about the apps folder. It just a different view.
and good or bad, that I don't see it coming...
01-10-2013, 11:55 PM #13
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Its more about being able to manage, download, email, etc OUR files, no matter the file type. Its really a simple friggin concept but thus far, MS refuses to give this simple ability.
MS has been very hard headed about some things with WP OS's. And I think it does more to hurt them and us, than anything else.
They market it as OUR Windows Phones, yet there is plenty we can't even do with our own files.
And ****, they couldn't even give us a color maker to choose our own colors, instead giving us a small choice to choose from.
- 01-11-2013, 12:17 AM #14
2. The UI uses the accent color for informative and actionable content. If given full control to the user, they may use a color too hard to see. While you may say that they should just let the user **** it up if they want, there is value to maintaining a certain level of control. Look what happens with Android, I've seen some horrible customizations on those phones.
At my company we've struggled with similar situations with our customers ability to customize colors in our product
- 01-11-2013, 02:13 AM #15
Do you understand the problems Microsoft addressed with WP's isolated storage?
Do you understand the problems addressed by WP's security model?
Do you understand the problems that lead Microsoft to disallow even developers from accessing WP's file system directly?
If you don't, then you understand but 1% of the problem. Solving people's issues with WP's file management isn't just about addressing your simple list of requirements... any potential solution must also preserve and fit in with the functionality and features that are already part of the OS, most of which isn't immediately apparent to end users. My point is that although your simple list of requirements is easy to understand, the entirety of the problem is not.
- 01-11-2013, 03:49 PM #16
There is a **** ton you can do on a phone app without having to access the phones native file system.
It sounds like you have some ulterior motive for that access...
- 01-11-2013, 06:51 PM #18
Most people don't need a file manager and most developers don't need access to one for apps.
Would a file manager be nice? Sure, but for most peoples needs, being able to put files on the phone though windows explore and SkyDrive is enough. Not being able to do what you want is not some catastrophic issue for developers that makes the OS impossible to develop for or scare 99% of them a way.
You act as if WP is impossible to develop for because of this restriction. "M$ sandbox" this and that. What about iOS? Have you ever tried developing for that? Its a royal nightmare.
In fact, although I haven't used it lately, but is there even a file manager for it?
You've played with Android right? What about the fact that there is a million versions of Android out there because half the phones can't update? So now developers have to create 10 different versions just so they can get it on everyone's phone.
Each platform has its draw backs WP is actually pretty damn easy to develop for though despite your rant for a stupid file manager.
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01-11-2013, 07:03 PM #20
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I was so thrilled to get a file manager when I switched from iOS to Android a few years ago. Turns out I used it once to see what it was like. Guess I'm not a power user :)
Having the apps be smart enough to know what file types it can interact with works fine for me, and there's SkyDrive and the PC interface for pretty much everything else. So one vote for "I don't care", though now that I think of it, I might change it to "no" because I'd rather them use the resources to add some other features like ringer profiles.
- 01-11-2013, 07:49 PM #21
If you want a phone with root access, an unrestricted file system, and apps that can snoop into any other apps on the phone, get an android, they can easily be made to do these things.
Edit: Forgot to mention bringcast, which is a decent podcast app, and downloads my podcasts to the phone. It's not rocket science, guy.
- 01-11-2013, 08:11 PM #22
No seriously, your banging your head against a wall that Microsoft put up to keep people like you out.
Why did you buy a Windows Phone? Did you not realize the significant differences between it and other mobile OSes would present you with exactly the issues which you are now complaining about? Could you be any more out of touch with yourself?
My biggest gripe with your thread, is that you presume to suggest that EVERYONE wants what your asking for.
- 01-11-2013, 08:42 PM #23
At least your honest about your own lack of research into the features that you now realize were more critical to you, bit which are not available on your phone.
If the 8X is really having these "other" storage issues, then that would suggest its related to something to do with that phone in particular, but I have no experience with WP8 as of yet, so I can't (should not) really speak to that.
- 01-11-2013, 11:57 PM #25
And there is a native PDF reader preloaded on the OS (same as Windows). I've used it multiple times for work. Works just fine.
At this point it seems like you're just building steam for the **** of it. So whatever your problem is, I don't care anymore. You just make up more **** to **** in the water hole anyways.
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