06-18-2013, 08:26 PM #1
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Here is the problem with Microsofts strategy. The TV features are great, but nothing stops Apple or Android from releasing the same exact features in an updated Apple TV or Google TV. Heck it might even include a game controller for app store games. If both price it for a couple hundred lower than the Xbox one then the people who want the TV functionality will just buy those systems instead.
The only real advantage is the Kinect sensor which most people aren't enamored with. Google and apples voice recognition is every bit as good as microsofts, probably better. Both also have existing customers locked into their ecosystems, which far outnumber Microsofts.
If an updated Apple TV is $300 and Google TV $200 then I don't see how a $500 Xbox One can compete. Xbox would be targeting a very narrow demographic right now that would find a purchase worthy.
- 06-18-2013, 09:00 PM #2
Those are 2 different types of gaming. If someone likes console gaming, they won't go with something that plays mobile games. Also, I think Microsoft knows no one is going to buy a One just for the TV features because of the price tag.
- 06-18-2013, 09:05 PM #3
The Xbox One does all of the above, that's why it rocks.
- Netflix/Xbox Video
- HBO GO
- Kinect (motion and voice control)
- Social Media
And the list goes on...
Name any other device that can do all of the above? Why buy multiple devices, when you can buy one (the One)?
- 06-18-2013, 09:28 PM #6
If I were Microsoft... I'd make an 'Xbox TV' with lighter hardware/cheaper but retain Kinect with all of the Xbox One's multi-tasking, apps, TV-integration, etc.
I'd also integrate Flash into Internet Explorer on Xbox One, so that people can access catch-up television at their local cable-network websites.
Another major addition, I'd make sure that the 'Xbox TV' can handle a certain level of gaming, maybe enough -- I don't know -- to handle most indie titles? Perhaps market Xbox TV to indie-developers, and position it as a more suitable platform for them (i.e. away from the big publishers, and open to a much broader audience?).
Price for this unit? $199.99 to $249.99.
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- 06-18-2013, 10:17 PM #8
And the 'barrier' never bothered me - I have already been paying for XBOX Live - to game - for almost 10 years and I don't plan on stopping anytime soon - so that point has never applied to me - and I'd hazard a guess that it really doesn't apply to anyone else on Live or the 360 either... The people that I know who have a 360 - have a live account, and if they don't none of them complain that they can't get Netflix, mainly because they don't have their 360 connected to the internet.
- 06-18-2013, 11:11 PM #9
If you guys don't think the X1 is worth the price, don't buy it. Everyone else will. If MS sees a lack of interest, they make changes. Otherwise, its your loss.
I'm amazed at the number of people who act like they should be running Microsoft as if they have all the correct answers, and MS is just stupid.
I think the X1 is awesome from what we've seen so far. It certainly justifies the cost, which is still cheaper than what PS3 was at launch.
06-18-2013, 11:13 PM #10
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Second, it is kind of a broad statement to say "most people aren't enamored" with Kinect. I haven't seen those statistics myself. It was the fastest selling consumer electronics device the year it was released and people always seem to be having a blast with it in the retails store display areas I've seen. True, far more Xbox 360's operate without Kinect exist than those with the sensor, but that is the very reason all Xbox One units will come with the new sensor, which is far more capable. Google and Apple may have good voice recognition, but they don't have it on any home entertainment device and it would require additional hardware for them to include it but I am sure the can easily do so in those expensive new TV's they will require you to purchase. Ecosystem lock-in may or may not be an issue, but Microsoft certainly has more customers using its home entertainment devices than Google and Apple combined (I am counting Xbox's sales vs Apple TV and Google TV.) Microsoft also has Skype and other services it can use to add value to the Xbox One, including (I hope) the ability for developers to provide third party Xbox One apps.
- 06-19-2013, 06:16 AM #13
I think the problem people have with Xbox one is the policies they have in place and how it can be perceived as limiting.
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06-19-2013, 10:36 AM #22
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However, people keep forgetting the IR blaster. EVERY CABLE BOX supports IR.... however each cable box interprets commands differently. So IR support for different cable boxes can be easily added through software updates.
- 06-19-2013, 11:15 AM #23
The problem is 2 things:
* the 24-hour check-in or your console is bricked. You have to be able to play single-player games by inserting the disc.
* the Kinect not having a hard-off switch. They can talk about it having a software switch, but that's not good enough.
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