- 08-29-2011, 09:42 PM #1
I wish MS would make a Zune Pass app for other OS's like they do Bing. Then I could really use it all the time no matter what phone i'm on. Plus I think it would introduce a lot of people to the zune player, which looks great. Maybe then they would be less scared to try WP.
- 08-29-2011, 10:10 PM #2
Zune is better off staying on MS only products. MS can't afford to shop around every piece of software they have. It devalues their products while making the competition superior. Bing is only on multiple platforms to compete against Google. And even then it won't have nearly the same integration that Bing has on WP7.
- 08-30-2011, 10:27 PM #5
Right now we have many people with pirated or old copied music on their computers. iTunes sucks with importing that data. Those people have spent a lot of time TRYING to get album art, removing all the duplicates, sorting their artist/albums. Why would they switch and go through the pain in the a$$ of updating all that info AGAIN in Zune.
If they had Zune Pass on their iPhone they'd get comfortable with using it, pay MS $16/month (market share grows for MS), and get flawless media libraries that aren't illegal and pirated. It'll stream to their Xbox, they'll pay for an Xbox Live Gold account, they'll want Live mobile games... Why not give them a taste... Get them hooked on the eco-system, convince them all the cool kids are doing it...
Here's what they currently think of WP7 and Zune
Anyway.. I think we need people to get comfortable with MS and Zune. I think giving other users access to our best feature will help change their opinion on Windows Phone and Zune.
- 08-30-2011, 10:43 PM #7
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- 08-30-2011, 11:06 PM #11
Did you listen to the last WPCentral podcast? The non WP7 host said he really wanted Zune Pass (sorry I can't remember his name! lol).
Or... We can just wait for Pandora on WP7 and watch everyone continue to use that instead on every OS.
- 08-30-2011, 11:10 PM #12
- 08-30-2011, 11:11 PM #13
We are not giving away the eco-system by letting them try Zune Pass and Bing search. We are only giving them a taste. There's no compelling reason for Android or Apple users to try Bing search if Google is built in. I love WP7 and Bing, but the built in Google search works fine on other OS's.
It's an app for them, it's built in to our WP7. they can go download 95% of their paif for iTunes music for free with their Zune Pass and just forget about their iTunes investment. It's a hassle for them to update and manage iTunes when they could just have Zune. We have a ton of other cool features nobody will ever see if they don't try and like MS again first.
How else can you figure we seperate them from their investments AND convince them that MS isn't so bad...? Got a better idea? Oh yeah... Adds on TV... Who the heck watches those now days (DVR).
One last thing: I think it would be easy as heck to convert people on Android with no really good music solution to Zune. Plus many Android users are sick of Android and just don't know how awesome Zune and WP7 are. They'd switch after having the Zune app... I'd bet at least $5 on it. :)
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- 08-30-2011, 11:36 PM #14
Can't use bing search. Can't filter by time/date which is something I use in google daily. If they added that one little thing I could use it regularly. As it stands now it is useless for me.
I also hate the zune software. It's just a mess. Hate it. I've been trying. I have it installed on 3 of my computers right now. I'm trying to like it. I just don't. But i'd still like to see it on other platforms.
Microsoft is bringing their voice technology, lync, to android and ios so why not zune?
- 08-30-2011, 11:40 PM #15
I completely agree with you gekkoace! I don't think it will hurt wp7 sales at all. People who are fed up of Android or iOS or BB or whatever, will try WP7. Zune on Android will do little to change the fact that it's laggy and freezes. So people who are content with that won't switch regardless if they have zune or not. Those who are looking to switch will more than likely try WP, because they already have zune. Or at least consider it when they did not before. So in the end it can only help, not hurt.
- 08-30-2011, 11:48 PM #16
- 08-31-2011, 12:07 AM #17
We've got Zune, Office, Live, Skydrive, Xbox, Windows, Silverlight, IE9... MS is working their butts off to make the eco-system better. They had to keep the brakes on until the anti-trust lawsuits were over. They've come back fighting since though. I'd be laughed out of the office if I tried to use Google docs to make a powerpoint presentation, my college professors wouldn't accept a non native Word.docx file, and Android is infected with all kinds of malware.
- 08-31-2011, 12:16 AM #18
I think Microsoft should first bring Zune Pass to all current and potential WP7 users, i.e. Canada among others! I'm not sure of the problem...is it licensing and Canadian copyright policy? Honestly I wouldn't even mind a limited selection of music through Zune (similar to Netflix), but give me something to at least make my WP7 device feel complete, albeit imperfectly.
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- 08-31-2011, 06:55 AM #21
So if we reverse the question, if nokia's ovi maps was available for WP7 would that make people more attracted to symbian? Or would they just carry on using it on their device of choice?
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Most people don't know what Symbian even is. But they might make the assumption that Nokia devices would be the very best for using ovi.
Just like people assume that Google products probably are better on Android.