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  1. tdoubleu's Avatar
    Wow, the Pro Shot photo looked nearly identical to the 950. I'm sold. Thanks for posting, I would love to see more!
    I agree. What a dramatic improvement. Do those apps improve low light pics too?
    11-13-2016 06:32 PM
  2. mark233's Avatar
    Full size image of my small kitchen (lit with 2 ceiling mounted LED 60W light bulbs ... 40W lightbulb over the stove). ProShot in Auto/C-AF mode.4:3 ratio. No flash.

    proshot_20161113_200239.jpg
    11-13-2016 08:12 PM
  3. GhostEchelon's Avatar
    boy seeing some of the pics on here really do good especially if you use some other app :) Nice job guys on them photos some look very on pair with the Lumia 950/XL suprising really. :)
    11-13-2016 09:12 PM
  4. Kacchan's Avatar
    Done. Check my photos again...added Camera360 Sight & ProShot.

    For my money...either one of those 2 apps is 1000x better than the MS Camera app. I'm not going to pick a winner of those 2...they both look great and pretty true to life.

    I did have to reboot my phone after installed ProShot and it didn't want to work right away...(I would click to take the picture and app would hang with Vibration stuck.) That seems to have resolved itself.

    Both vastly improve the camera and remove any doubts I had about this phone!!! The shutter speed is also fixed!

    Need to get that Boom key changed over now.
    What resolution does pro shot and camera 360 shoot in.
    11-13-2016 09:31 PM
  5. editguy's Avatar
    Guys and Gals...

    Alt camera apps, please. Can we see samples from Camera360 Sight, ProShot and others? Especially on 3rd party devices, I've found that some of these 3rd party apps can make a dramatic difference. Microsoft Camera algorithms (and formally Lumia Cam) seem to be aggressively tuned for camera module hardware that 3rd party phones aren't using...
    I'm really glad you suggested this. It puts the camera in a whole new light. It looks much more competitive now. From the pics we've seen since your suggestion, I think Alcatel should have made a deal with Proshot and made it the default camera app!
    11-13-2016 11:29 PM
  6. RumoredNow's Avatar
    What resolution does pro shot and camera 360 shoot in.
    On a 20MP sensor Lumia 1520:
    Camera360 Sight allows selection of 5MP or 16MP JPG in 16:9 (same as Camera, except it is one or the other, not both)
    ProShot allows 4MP, 5MP, 8MP or 16MP JPG in 16:9 (more choices than Camera, again, choose just 1 output)
    ProShot for W10M also allows RAW or JPG use of the sensor along with JPG or TIFF file for output (mix and match)

    I see no reason why it would differ greatly for the Idol 4S with a 21MP sensor.


    I'm really glad you suggested this. It puts the camera in a whole new light. It looks much more competitive now. From the pics we've seen since your suggestion, I think Alcatel should have made a deal with Proshot and made it the default camera app!
    Thanks. I first noticed this on BLU Win HD and again on HD LTE and Moly W5. On Lumia people tend to ignore the alt camera apps. I find them useful on Lumia and crucial on 3rd party devices. I keep trying to get the word out on this, but I'm not the only one. I think dorelse simply forgot about it from his time on BLU.
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    11-14-2016 07:43 AM
  7. dorelse's Avatar
    Thanks. I first noticed this on BLU Win HD and again on HD LTE and Moly W5. On Lumia people tend to ignore the alt camera apps. I find them useful on Lumia and crucial on 3rd party devices. I keep trying to get the word out on this, but I'm not the only one. I think dorelse simply forgot about it from his time on BLU.
    Yep, never even crossed my mind to try them. The Blu phone is sitting in a drawer somewhere...put it back to 8.1 and left it there...but that's a different discussion.

    Now...if we can only figure out how to get the default camera changed, heck, even if we could change the Boom key to a different camera app. Is this going to be in the registry somewhere? And...are there tools to get down into that layer?
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    11-14-2016 09:46 AM
  8. P4geD0wn's Avatar
    There is no option to set defolt camera app under settings -> devices -> default camera app?
    11-14-2016 12:32 PM
  9. dorelse's Avatar
    There is no option to set defolt camera app under settings -> devices -> default camera app?
    Option is there, however, its a dead option, it only ever allows you to select the default camera app of 'Camera'...(ie...that's the only choice you'll ever get...)
    libra89 likes this.
    11-14-2016 01:11 PM
  10. editguy's Avatar
    Option is there, however, its a dead option, it only ever allows you to select the default camera app of 'Camera'...(ie...that's the only choice you'll ever get...)
    I'm curious. If you have, say, ProShot open, will the camera key function to take the shot or do you have to use the on screen? I'm asking because I didn't know if not being able to change the default just affected the ability to open the camera with the key, or makes it completely useless.
    dorelse likes this.
    11-14-2016 01:37 PM
  11. dorelse's Avatar
    I'm curious. If you have, say, ProShot open, will the camera key function to take the shot or do you have to use the on screen? I'm asking because I didn't know if not being able to change the default just affected the ability to open the camera with the key, or makes it completely useless.
    Boom key does take the picture...so essentially, all that's really broken is launching the camera via the Boom key (camera button)...not the worst I suppose. Though I would expect every app to call the Camera, vs. ProShot until MS fixes this bug.
    editguy likes this.
    11-14-2016 01:40 PM
  12. dorelse's Avatar
    Essentially, we need to know the {AppGUID} of the camera app we want to use.

    If we knew that string, it could be placed into the registry as the default camera app.

    Here's the location...now this all assumes that the devs haven't left out the code that would register their app as selectable in the devices/default camera drop down.

    This doc is for Win10, but still gave me enough breadcrumbs to figure it out...well I think I figured it out anyway...

    https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...(v=vs.85).aspx










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    11-14-2016 01:50 PM
  13. editguy's Avatar
    It would definitely be nice to be able to make it default, but I'm glad you can use the camera key in the other photo apps.
    11-14-2016 01:53 PM
  14. dorelse's Avatar
    It would definitely be nice to be able to make it default, but I'm glad you can use the camera key in the other photo apps.
    Yes, me too. Good suggestion!
    11-14-2016 02:07 PM
  15. dorelse's Avatar
    Well, tried editing the key above to the app guid, no luck. I change the key and save it, its not staying...so, no dice there.
    11-14-2016 06:25 PM
  16. Sedp23's Avatar
    Random

    Windows camera







    Sent from mTalk
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    11-14-2016 07:58 PM
  17. g808's Avatar
    Here's some low pics from the Idol 4s in auto mode (HDR version 2nd pic). Sorry for the sideways photos, not sure why they uploaded that way (look right side up on my laptop).

    idol2.jpg
    idol2_hdr.jpg

    wp_20161114_17_34_33_pro.jpg
    wp_20161114_17_34_38_pro.jpg

    idol4.jpg
    idol4_hdr.jpg

    wp_20161114_17_39_52_pro.jpg
    wp_20161114_17_39_35_pro.jpg
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    11-14-2016 08:35 PM
  18. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Now...if we can only figure out how to get the default camera changed, heck, even if we could change the Boom key to a different camera app. Is this going to be in the registry somewhere? And...are there tools to get down into that layer?
    The shame of it is that on Android that Boom Key is totally programmable. You can make it open any one App you choose.

    I suppose W10M sandboxing is at work.


    Well, tried editing the key above to the app guid, no luck. I change the key and save it, its not staying...so, no dice there.
    Is that with Interop Tools? The difference may be that you are not fully Interop Unlocked. Without the full Unlock, some things can't be done just via Tools.
    11-14-2016 09:35 PM
  19. dorelse's Avatar
    The shame of it is that on Android that Boom Key is totally programmable. You can make it open any one App you choose.

    I suppose W10M sandboxing is at work.




    Is that with Interop Tools? The difference may be that you are not fully Interop Unlocked. Without the full Unlock, some things can't be done just via Tools.
    Yep, I'm sure I'm not fully unlocked then.
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    11-14-2016 11:00 PM
  20. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Here are 2 quick shots using Windows camera and Pro Shot. Both are with auto settings and the only post-editing was to black out my tag. Pro Shot is markedly better.
    Windows


    Pro Shot







    Sent from Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows via mTalk
    11-15-2016 04:40 PM
  21. mark233's Avatar
    Couple of indoor shots using the Windows camera app. The lamp is the only lighting in my living room for these. Lightbulb in the lampstand is an LED 800 lumens bulb (60W equivalent). I resized the pics for faster upload and to not be a site hog with the original size pic lol.

    Point and shoot pic in Auto. No Flash.
    wp_20161115_18_25_55_pro.jpg

    Touch focused on the wine bottle. Same lighting. No flash.
    wp_20161115_18_12_19_pro.jpg
    11-15-2016 06:49 PM
  22. Sedp23's Avatar
    Here are 2 quick shots using Windows camera and Pro Shot. Both are with auto settings and the only post-editing was to black out my tag. Pro Shot is markedly better.
    Windows
    http://i.imgur.com/KE2dtQM.jpg

    Pro Shot
    http://i.imgur.com/NnMoRD0.jpg






    Sent from Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows via mTalk
    They don't look that much different

    Sent from mTalk
    11-15-2016 07:34 PM
  23. mark233's Avatar
    Bored ... took this of my keyboard with ProShot in C-AF mode ... EV set at -.05. Lighting from my computer screen and one floor lamp in the background.
    proshot_20161115_194309.jpg

    Camera is quite acceptable in my opinion.
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    11-15-2016 07:51 PM
  24. editguy's Avatar
    They don't look that much different

    Sent from mTalk
    Actually, if you look at them closely, there is more detail in the ProShot pic. Look at the rear bumper of the car, for example, and there's more lost to shadows in the original pic.
    fatclue_98 and libra89 like this.
    11-15-2016 07:57 PM
  25. MOBBAK's Avatar
    Here are 2 quick shots using Windows camera and Pro Shot. Both are with auto settings and the only post-editing was to black out my tag. Pro Shot is markedly better.
    Windows
    http://i.imgur.com/KE2dtQM.jpg



    Pro Shot
    http://i.imgur.com/NnMoRD0.jpg






    Sent from Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows via mTalk
    I don't find any differences between the two pictures and both are in bad quality, for example, look at the trash, can you read what it says on it? Or look at the car parked in the front of you your house, can you read the what is on the license plate? Also, the sharpness are very low in both pictures.
    11-15-2016 07:59 PM
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