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  1. patcherd's Avatar
    Did the unthinkable and went scorched earth with this. Got on the Fast Ring to 14395.1001 and most of the apps immediately updated (I checked for updates prior to make sure I was current). Windows Camera was on the list so I waited. Everything was on auto except shutter speed (1/20) and took some indoor shots. We're close, very close. Colors were very accurate and details improved markedly. Zooming in still reveals some softness but I can live with that. Macros still look sharp and CamScanner is better than my Passport. Pro Shot didn't take to the update well and white balance is all over the place.

    I'm not recommending what I did but there's really no harm. WDRT is always there just in case. There are known issues with language packs so read up on this if you're intrigued.

    Sent from Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows via mTalk
    Glad to hear the camera is much better with fast ring. Something to look forward to.

    I'm going to have to wait though. I'm not taking a chance as I have no experience with WDRT if things don't work out.

    Other than the camera this phone is quickly becoming the best Windows phone I have used yet.
    fatclue_98 likes this.
    11-19-2016 12:31 PM
  2. anon(9809330)'s Avatar
    As far as I know WDRT has not been updated to include the 4S.
    Latest version I have is 3.10.24401.0
    11-19-2016 01:33 PM
  3. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Ok, the proof's in the pudding. This was shot this morning for comparison to the earlier pictures showing what the updates did. This is with Windows Camera and all set to auto except I changed the focus to infinity. The difference in detail is nothing short of amazing. If you zoom in you can clearly see the expiration sticker on my tag. The rocks in the shadows under the car aren't soft and the ones in the sunlight aren't blown out (for the most part). Zooming in on the Hummer you can read the lettering on the tire, if you look through the windshield you can see the blue Accord very well. The reflection of the CTS is plain as day on the Hummer and the trunk of the Caddy shows reflections of the house.

    Just a few days ago I was about to throw this phone through T-Mobile's front window but I couldn't give up that easily. Oh, I almost forgot, since going on the Fast Ring update, Facebook is slow to load but hasn't crashed once. Continuum is running much cooler and Cortana isn't chiming in unannounced. I'm sure there are some bugs crawling around but I haven't seen them yet.




    Sent from Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows via mTalk
    libra89, editguy, mark233 and 2 others like this.
    11-19-2016 01:37 PM
  4. editguy's Avatar
    Ok, the proof's in the pudding. This was shot this morning for comparison to the earlier pictures showing what the updates did. This is with Windows Camera and all set to auto except I changed the focus to infinity. The difference in detail is nothing short of amazing. If you zoom in you can clearly see the expiration sticker on my tag. The rocks in the shadows under the car aren't soft and the ones in the sunlight aren't blown out (for the most part). Zooming in on the Hummer you can read the lettering on the tire, if you look through the windshield you can see the blue Accord very well. The reflection of the CTS is plain as day on the Hummer and the trunk of the Caddy shows reflections of the house.

    Just a few days ago I was about to throw this phone through T-Mobile's front window but I couldn't give up that easily. Oh, I almost forgot, since going on the Fast Ring update, Facebook is slow to load but hasn't crashed once. Continuum is running much cooler and Cortana isn't chiming in unannounced. I'm sure there are some bugs crawling around but I haven't seen them yet.

    Sent from Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows via mTalk
    That is amazing! It's almost like a completely different camera! I can't wait to get mine. I feel very comfortable with the purchase after seeing this. The camera was my only hesitation becasue I care nothing about NFC or any other missing features. I'm glad you didn't give up. Thanks for posting this!
    11-19-2016 05:19 PM
  5. dorelse's Avatar
    Huh...I'm not on the Insider Program, but my camera app did update yesterday.
    11-19-2016 06:58 PM
  6. editguy's Avatar
    Huh...I'm not on the Insider Program, but my camera app did update yesterday.
    Yeah, I seem to remember that a camera app update rolled out to Windows 10 devices. But that doesn't mean that it would necessarily have all of the improvements that are in insider builds. After I receive mine I will put it on insider builds because I have been alternating phones to a L640 with 10 without any serious problems. I like having the latest even if it does mean living on the edge. :-)
    Have you compared pics since the update to those before the update?
    11-19-2016 07:31 PM
  7. editguy's Avatar
    As far as I know WDRT has not been updated to include the 4S.
    Latest version I have is 3.10.24401.0
    You are correct. It's not there yet. I may wait for that before I install the insider.
    11-19-2016 07:40 PM
  8. Sedp23's Avatar
    What effect does turning the focus to infinity have??

    Sent from mTalk
    11-19-2016 07:40 PM
  9. fatclue_98's Avatar
    What effect does turning the focus to infinity have??

    Sent from mTalk
    It removes the bokeh effect most people like and creates extended depth of field so that all items are "stacked" and are in focus no matter how "far" they are in the image.

    Sent from Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows via mTalk
    libra89 and Scienceguy Labs like this.
    11-19-2016 07:52 PM
  10. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Huh...I'm not on the Insider Program, but my camera app did update yesterday.
    What version are you on?

    Sent from Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows via mTalk
    11-19-2016 08:03 PM
  11. dorelse's Avatar
    What version are you on?Sent from Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows via mTalk
    10.0.14393.448
    11-19-2016 09:00 PM
  12. fatclue_98's Avatar
    10.0.14393.448
    Sorry, I meant the camera app.
    RumoredNow likes this.
    11-19-2016 09:19 PM
  13. dorelse's Avatar
    2016.1021.11.0
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    11-19-2016 10:16 PM
  14. fatclue_98's Avatar
    2016.1021.11.0
    Either you got the numbers juxtaposed or I'm on a newer version. I have 2016.1101.21.0

    Sent from Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows via mTalk
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    11-19-2016 11:02 PM
  15. IndyJG's Avatar
    Your on a newer version. I, too, am on 2016.1021.11.0

    Sent from mTalk on my Alcatel Idol 4S for Windows
    fatclue_98, RumoredNow and editguy like this.
    11-20-2016 03:30 AM
  16. fatclue_98's Avatar
    As I mentioned in my earlier post, I updated all Store apps immediately prior to getting the Fast Ring build. About an hour later there were some 35 apps ready to update and Camera was one of them.
    11-20-2016 10:54 AM
  17. dorelse's Avatar
    Yep, confirmed the numbers. I jumped to the Slow Ring this morning, and the camera app still matches my post above (verified against my 950 as well). So there's a camera update coming down soon. Very cool.I absolutely love the phone, love it, so if there's something in the works to improve the camera, I'm even more convinced I'll keep it.
    11-20-2016 02:16 PM
  18. Sedp23's Avatar
    Took a interesting shot tonight with HDR on Windows camera




    Sent from mTalk
    11-23-2016 08:34 PM
  19. mark233's Avatar
    Windows Camera app
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    Added Edit: Same pic with Adobe Photoshop Express tweaking.
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    Last edited by mark233; 11-27-2016 at 06:04 PM.
    11-27-2016 11:31 AM
  20. editguy's Avatar
    Here are some quick pics I took today. Standard camera app and auto settings.
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    11-29-2016 11:56 PM
  21. Kacchan's Avatar
    You guys definitely make the camera look amazing
    11-30-2016 12:40 AM
  22. cactuspete23's Avatar
    Generally look like good photos! Night shots could be better.
    11-30-2016 06:18 AM
  23. mark233's Avatar
    Dirty leather work glove and wrench. Windows camera app. No flash/edits. Inside overhead LED lighting.
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    11-30-2016 04:53 PM
  24. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Here are some quick pics I took today. Standard camera app and auto settings.
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    Love that Laguna. '73 right?
    11-30-2016 06:15 PM
  25. editguy's Avatar
    Love that Laguna. '73 right?
    Yep, you got it! Here's a pic of it when I got it. I did all of the bodywork, painting and upholstery. It had rusted out quarter panels and floorboards that I had to replace, and hail damage to the top, trunk and hood. It took me a year and a half.
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    11-30-2016 06:37 PM
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