07-27-2017 08:31 AM
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  1. StyxBoatman's Avatar
    Hi all!

    Just upgraded to the Idol 4S and up to now I'm REALLY enjoying it.

    I did want the thoughts of the owners out there. As the title says, should I get glass/screen protector or not?

    The main reason for the question is that I had to get a screen protector for my Band 2 after the first one I bought got a pretty noticeable scratch and I have no idea how/where/when since I baby my electronics.

    With that previous experience how does this Dragon glass hold up? I really like the crispness of the screen without, so I'm also concerned about the possible deterioration of crispness/quality with a protector. For example, on my old Ativ, I had one, but eventually you could see scratches and dullness to the screen. I tried to remove it, but I decided not to due to the difficulty. It almost was like the protector was "fused" to the screen.

    Anyway, would love to hear your thoughts!
    pedrojustice likes this.
    03-10-2017 10:47 AM
  2. PFSP's Avatar
    Check out this post by RumoredNow.
    A good review of Liquid Glass
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    03-10-2017 01:00 PM
  3. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Check out this post by RumoredNow.
    A good review of Liquid Glass
    @StyxBoatman, PFSP beat me too it.

    I'm about 6 weeks into using Liquid Glass and I still can't get over how cool the stuff is. It's worth looking into for sure.

    If you do go Tempered Glass, try the Mr. Shield brand, great value and excellent fit for the Idol 4S.
    pedrojustice and libra89 like this.
    03-11-2017 12:34 PM
  4. StyxBoatman's Avatar
    Thanks! I really appreciate the responses!

    I'll read the Liquid Glass review and take a look at the Mr. Shield link. A fried also said to go to a T-Mobile store and have them do it for me, that the one they use is pretty good. But honestly, I haven't had time to check it out.
    RumoredNow likes this.
    03-17-2017 06:30 PM
  5. Sedp23's Avatar
    Definitely get a tempered glass screen protector feels like the screen will easily break or scratch. Dropped my phone yesterday it hit the bottom of my car with my car door open and landed face down in the street. My tempered glass protector was on and it cracked my protector but when i removed it the phone was still fine. I'm almost sure if i didn't have it my screen wouldn't shattered

    Sent from Idol 4s
    04-08-2017 01:02 PM
  6. DLong4's Avatar
    Check out this post by RumoredNow.
    A good review of Liquid Glass
    I placed the liquid glass on my IDOL, and then purchased a thin folding case which covers the screen as well. Haven't dared try the hammer test on it, though!
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    04-10-2017 08:43 PM
  7. nate0's Avatar
    I placed the liquid glass on my IDOL, and then purchased a thin folding case which covers the screen as well. Haven't dared try the hammer test on it, though!
    Applied qmadix and also dropped mine on the tile floor at my house. It survived!
    libra89 likes this.
    04-11-2017 10:22 PM
  8. Fancything's Avatar
    A screen protector is needed provided that it is a scratch resistant and will indeed survive heavy scratches and other phone drop accidents.
    04-12-2017 01:30 AM
  9. RumoredNow's Avatar
    I am still digging the heck out of my Qmadix Liquid Glass. Especially the no fingerprints deal. Screen protectors never did that for as long in my experience.
    libra89 likes this.
    04-12-2017 02:33 PM
  10. Dmd74's Avatar
    Using the Qmadix Liquid Glass and so far its excellent.
    RumoredNow and libra89 like this.
    04-19-2017 03:57 PM
  11. Dmd74's Avatar
    I am still digging the heck out of my Qmadix Liquid Glass. Especially the no fingerprints deal. Screen protectors never did that for as long in my experience.
    I really like the liquid glass. Assuming that it continues to hold up, I wonder why it isn't more prevalent.
    RumoredNow likes this.
    04-20-2017 06:32 AM
  12. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Possibly the price? The anti-fingerprint properties alone are a great argument. I assume you saw my knife test video...

    I think skepticism holds most users back though.
    04-20-2017 08:15 AM
  13. PFSP's Avatar
    Possibly the price? The anti-fingerprint properties alone are a great argument. I assume you saw my knife test video...

    I think skepticism holds most users back though.
    Also can be that it is not removable. The process applied to the phone instead of case that I can remove if I don't like it. That combined with probably a little fear that the person may mess it up during the application process all can contribute to the lack of prevalence.
    RumoredNow likes this.
    04-20-2017 11:39 AM
  14. RumoredNow's Avatar
    That combined with probably a little fear that the person may mess it up during the application process all can contribute to the lack of prevalence.
    It's pretty much ***** proof. I would understand the fear, but it is groundless.
    PFSP likes this.
    04-20-2017 04:41 PM
  15. PFSP's Avatar
    It's pretty much ***** proof. I would understand the fear, but it is groundless.
    I agree, just speculating that it may be a contributing reason.
    RumoredNow likes this.
    04-20-2017 05:01 PM
  16. TunedM52's Avatar
    The Mr. Shield screen protectors are great, saved both my 950 and 950XL so many times when I dropped them and the just the protector shattered. However, the one for the 4S I can't recommend, simply because it won't adhere on both left and right side of the phone. The curve on the glass is too great for a flat piece of glass to stick to.

    I found out that it's because they designed the screen protector for the android 4S, which has less of a curve on the screen. How do I know? I own both a Windows 4S and Android 4S and tried the Mr. Shield on both of them and only left it on the android.

    You can see pics in my Amazon review, it's the topmost one.

    Thinking about getting that liquid glass stuff for my Windows 4S, this thing is so fragile and I hate using cases!
    RumoredNow likes this.
    05-15-2017 11:59 AM
  17. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Thinking about getting that liquid glass stuff for my Windows 4S, this thing is so fragile and I hate using cases!
    Do it. It's fantastic and , IMHO, a glass front and back phone really deserves it.
    TunedM52 likes this.
    05-15-2017 01:32 PM
  18. TunedM52's Avatar
    Been about a month since I applied it to my surface pro 4 and idol 4s.

    So yeah, I am starting to believe this is the real deal. Not a single scratch on my alcatel front or back, no fingerprints, but a whole lot more slippery especially on fabric. Probably won't survive a drop onto hard ground. However I don't throw my phone around or treat it roughly, tend to be a little more careful handling an expensive pocket computer, unlike some others. (I need to rant somewhere about all the cracked iphones I am seeing at work today, how do they deal with that?!)

    Surface pro 4 screen looks pristine. I had a glass tempered protector on it before but it interfered with the touch so much to the point of having to remove it. Again, screen looks perfectly brand new. Smudges are greatly reduced, don't have to wipe the screen down every couple hours, looks like nothing is there, a fully clear protector.

    Not sure what else to say.
    I guess this is truly liquid glass, or at least a very, very good oleophobic coating. Definitely worth the money in my opinion, and this is 100% the way to go with the Idol 4S.
    RumoredNow likes this.
    06-09-2017 11:04 AM
  19. aj173's Avatar
    I just threw a standard wet application film on mine. I've always been disappointed eventually with every glass screen protector I've ever owned, and I'm not convinced that they protect screens from breakage. When you drop a phone and the glass protector breaks while the screen doesnt, that just means that you dropped it hard enough to break the screen protector but not the screen itself. The only benefit I see with them is that they feel better than the wet application films.

    Never tried the liquid glass though. What is that? Is it just a typical polyurethane coating?
    06-09-2017 11:37 PM
  20. badelhas's Avatar
    I always use a glass screen protector. The cheapest one I can find on ebay, they are all the same.
    Cheers
    06-10-2017 08:40 AM
  21. TunedM52's Avatar
    Also to note, most Idol 4S glass protectors are designed for the android version which has a flatter screen. I own both variants and the dimensions and weight differ ever so slightly. The sides will not adhere.

    A razor wouldn't damage most unprotected phone screens anyways. Check out JerryRigEverything on YouTube, he makes really informative videos about the durability of different phones with great precision.

    Still pretty happy with the qmadix liquid coating. But i can tell it is going to wear off within a few months unfortunately. Still worth the cost, but a regular glass protector is still the way to go in my opinion, unfortunately not in the Idol's case though (or any curved screen for that matter).
    06-12-2017 02:02 AM
  22. jlwaters11's Avatar
    I'll have to give it a try.. I bought one on Amazon and the screen protectoror was cut short, so it left an 1/8" on either side uncovered. It was quite annoying. I ended up sending it back.
    06-12-2017 09:26 AM
  23. badelhas's Avatar
    I always use a glass screen protector only. Thats why I hate glass backs...

    cheers
    06-18-2017 05:41 AM
  24. nate0's Avatar
    I never like any cases or protectors of any kind on my phones. I did use the qmadix originally and the idol4s took a tumble off our bed which is quite high from our tile at about 3 feet or so. However I'm beginning to think I did not apply mine thoroughly or completely by the book. I sometimes had fingerprints but they cleaned away somewhat easier however. The reason I think I applied less than adequate is not because of dropping it as we know that alone does damage. The drop was on a corner, but later I noticed that it had screen scratches on the front most likely from bumping and moving along the tile after the impact. So I may have had a weak area where less was applied. Great stuff though if having a glass back on a phone. I just can't get past the camera hump on this phone though.

    I recently came to own two of these phones (Idol4s). I own a t-mobile branded one that I unlocked (used) and my original now replaced through an Alcatel RMA one (new). I decided to get two of the Incipio pure cases for the idol 4s for two reasons. I want my family to be able to use one or both of these phones. The cases are clear/neutral and are well made. Buttons work flawlessly. I have an issue with the camera button accidentally launching while I'm unlocked though and that is disappointing even though I read up on that happening and expected it. I went so far as uninstalling/removing the camera completely on the T-mobile one so that my 5 year old could use it for videos and I did not have to worry about random photo taking. But the case from my perspective is sound enough that I do trust it outside or around the home while my five year old uses it.

    I personally would rather use the qmadix only, but I'm so nit picky about the camera hump that I compromised on the incipio case on the phone even while I'm using it for myself now.
    06-25-2017 11:10 PM
  25. TunedM52's Avatar
    Well I was going to post this on RumoredNow's review thread, but this thread is more recent.

    View album below.
    Fail "Glass" Screen Protector - Album on Imgur

    So I'm gonna have to call BS on the Qmadix and all other "liquid screen protectors."
    They do not protect the screen whatsoever. It simply behaving like a factory iPhone oleo-phobic coating, but worse.

    Bought two of the QMadix, one for my W10M Alcatel, and one for my Android Alcatel. Both new at the time. Bought a few knockoff brands for my other phones and surface and macbook.

    For all of them, within a month, the android developed severe scratches on the lower rear glass and didn't resist fingerprints or oils/etc. anymore. Simply by sliding it across the table, as I never use that phone. I just really, really dislike android as an OS.

    Now with my W10 Idol 4S. The coating wore off within a month as well. Back to how it used to be, if not worse than before. And to note, the Lumia 950 was always my main phone, never used the Alcatel as what I feared happened, happened. Shattered the glass back of the phone. Still works fine, but ugh, ruined. On top of the camera issues, SD issues, no NFC, Qi, I've given up on the Alcatel. Probably gonna head to the MS store to pick up the X3 bundle, which is like half price... And you can get it on ebay new for ~$400. What a deal!!


    So, in my experience, GET A REAL GLASS SCREEN PROTECTOR! Either that or rock your phone case-less/naked. Only a screen protector. Use the phone as it was designed. Gone through probably 5 of them with my Lumia 950. Saved the screen each and every single time.

    This is a waste of money, which I'm still trying to get back from Qmadix even though I registered/everything. I'm very disappointed. Now I have to go pay Alcatel or some 3rd party repair shop to replace the back. Would not have happened with a glass protector. It fell off my bed cause the USB cable disconnected. Onto hardwood. That is it.

    While the 950 has survived falling off a moving car, constantly being dropped as I'm obviously not careful lol, and 2 years of wear and tear. Replace the $2 screen protector, get a new Mozo case, brand new phone.

    Again, this is my experience. I applied it properly. But it just wore off so quickly. These two were never my main phones and never left the house. So I'm straight up calling BS on any real screen protection w/qmadix or any knockoff, only upside is the oleo-phobic coating.


    Attached are pics I just took. Alcatel pics with my 950, and the 950 pic was taken with a 930.

    /beginrant
    Ugh I have to do this, so skip it if you don't want to hear my ramblings.

    It's a trap!! Sorry, I'm just very upset right now. I trusted this product. And it completely let me down, in such a light use case. Qmadix are not responding to me. I'm not sure how much alcatel wants to simply replace the back, if anything like apple, $130 for a new screen, at least that's how much I paid to replace my iPhone 6 screen.

    Incipio case for now.. but thank god I have my 950. I love this phone so much. If only it had the 810 chip. The 950XL is still in its box. Freaking huge. And I have relatively large hands. I, along with Steve Jobs, agree on the fact that a phone is a one-handed device.

    Just holding the 930 and my 925 feels so right, as well as my iPhone 5s. Need a bigger screen? That's why I own a SP4 i7, soon to be SB i7 performance base. I just dislike the desire and demand for such large screens on cell phones, freaking phablets. Like, has anyone held the iPhone 6+/6s+/7+? Idiotic IMO, why, just get an iPad/Surface/tablet. Or the LG V20. WTF. Jesus christ dude. I understand the viewpoint. My girlfriend has a 6+ and I hate using it. My iP6 took so long to get used to. 5S was the perfect size, IMO. I'd rather be using a real tablet...
    /endrant lol.

    TL;DR: This is snake oil. Buy a 3 pack of glass protectors off amazon for $5 and you'll actually have peace of mind.
    07-27-2017 12:43 AM
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