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  1. jgjackson's Avatar
    Hey guys!


    Here are a couple of questions I have to get it started:


    I'll definitely be back with more questions and am excited to hear what you guys say! Thanks in advance!
    > 1. Are you guys satisfied with where Windows Phone is right now?
    > Or are people simply waiting (im)patiently for Windows Phone 7
    > (or whatever it's called)?

    Despite what the non-microsoft fanboys blog, the truth is the rest of the world is till trying to catch up with Windows 6.1, let alone 6.5 or 7. I'm not a big fan of touch flow because it isn't configurable enough. I prefer either the standard Windows Today screen with SPB Pocket Plus's Today plugin or SPB Mobile Shell (I actually use both) with some hacks.

    > 2. Is using custom ROMs and the like commonplace on Windows Phone?
    > How many people just use Windows Phone (no skin, ROM, UI, etc)?

    I don't use custom ROMs, but I do use SPB PocketPlus and SPB Mobile Shell with some hacks.

    > 3. Anyone ever think of moving to Android? Is that the most logical
    > destination for Windows Phone refugees? =)

    And loose my software investment? I don't htink so.

    > 4. What do you like about Windows Phone that no other platform offers?

    Remote Desktop Client alone is worth the price of admission. Windows is actually the most open platform out there as you can install anything on it without having to have Microsoft/Apple/Google/whoever give it the stamp of approval. While itunes and it's clones are nice and convenient, Windows Mobile has had Handango.com as a de facto store for ages and almost all applications tie the license to the user name plugged into the phone which makes it easy to move applications from phone to phone as you move from device to device.

    > 5. Does anyone really call it Windows Phone or is it Windows Mobile

    A Windows Phone runs Windows Mobile OS.
    12-16-2009 06:20 PM
  2. waldo15's Avatar
    1. Are you guys satisfied with where Windows Phone is right now? Or are people simply waiting (im)patiently for Windows Phone 7 (or whatever it's called)?
    2. Is using custom ROMs and the like commonplace on Windows Phone? How many people just use Windows Phone (no skin, ROM, UI, etc)?
    3. Anyone ever think of moving to Android? Is that the most logical destination for Windows Phone refugees? =)
    4. What do you like about Windows Phone that no other platform offers?
    5. Does anyone really call it Windows Phone or is it Windows Mobile

    I'll definitely be back with more questions and am excited to hear what you guys say! Thanks in advance!
    1) Definitely not satisfied. WM 6.5 seemed to be a good promise but after delivery it feel way short of the levels I was hoping for; also seeing how other OSes are gaining momentum (i.e. Android devices are getting a big push these days), one but wonders what the heck is MS thinking about doing and why is taking so long. Not to mention the iPhone and its OS/app strong play.

    2) I have not yet cooked any ROM and/or installed a customized ROM in any smartphone yet. I may definitely try it next time I get a new phone just for the learning experience. I feel a bit hesitant to do it on my main phone though.

    3) I gotta admit the Droid marketing campaign got me thinking into it, however what may finally push me into doing it is Nexus One; it all depends how that plays out once Google officially releases it to the masses...

    4) Perhaps the best thing that WM has going for is the strong multitasking ability, as well as the openess to install new apps as well as try out new things (cooked ROMs for example). Also another bit point in my book is the relatively close compatibility with the Desktop. I am tied in one way or another to Outlook, MS office for PC and standard PC apps; in several respects the Windows Phones are a very similar experience to the full desktop experience... but that also impplies all the negative connotations involved in using a Windows OS as well.

    5) Call it a force of habit, but to me they are still Windows Mobile phones.
    12-16-2009 06:51 PM
  3. iunknown's Avatar
    1. Happy with 6.5, eagerly waiting for WM7
    2. Yup, Custom ROMs all the way... have been using since WM5. Though I like the Titanium, I do apply SPB mobile shell or Manilla every now & then.
    3. Android... thought about it; might do it but it would have to be waaaaaaaay better than WM6.5 + Manilla/SPB-MS for me to switch.
    4. Customizability... Android is promising here as well though.
    5. Windows Mobile or WinMo
    12-16-2009 06:56 PM
  4. pmjohnson99's Avatar
    Microsoft needs to embrase the name "WinMo", though it can be comicaly misconstrued it works well 'cause it's short and flows.

    Like Apple did with the name/brand "Mac". Does anyone say "Machintosh" anymore?
    12-16-2009 07:26 PM
  5. onlineaddy's Avatar
    2nd day of entry
    12-16-2009 07:29 PM
  6. Lil_Sunshine#WN's Avatar
    1. Are you guys satisfied with where Windows Phone is right now? Or are people simply waiting (im)patiently for Windows Phone 7 (or whatever it's called)
    I'm satisfied with the way HTC Touch Pro2. I hadn't used a WinMo touch screen device since my Samsung i730 which was a God awful, enormous, battery vampire, brick. I shocked at how much I'm loving my HTC Touch Pro2.

    2. Is using custom ROMs and the like commonplace on Windows Phone? How many people just use Windows Phone (no skin, ROM, UI, etc)?
    Using the stock ROM. I cannot be bothered with all that flashing.

    3. Anyone ever think of moving to Android? Is that the most logical destination for Windows Phone refugees? =)
    Android will definitely be the next platform that I try. Just waiting for the platform to mature a little bit. I have to say, it's growing up pretty fast.

    4. What do you like about Windows Phone that no other platform offers?
    Mortplayer, BeyondPod, WMA-DRM audiobooks from my local library, and ebooks from my library.

    5. Does anyone really call it Windows Phone or is it Windows Mobile?
    It's Windows Mobile or WinMo
    12-16-2009 07:41 PM
  7. jankyhanky#WP's Avatar
    What is this Macintosh? Where can I acquire such a machine? I know of no Apple brands consisting of more than two syllables.
    12-16-2009 07:46 PM
  8. joecatskill's Avatar
    1) I am somewhat happy with my Verizon Omnia coming from a Treo 700p. I do need to reset my phone occasionally which bums me out but I love the ability to customize the look and feel to fit my momentary wishes. Actually wanted the Pre first but not on Verizon so I got this.

    2) No I haven't flashed a cooked ROM mostly since I don't know were to find a 6.5 ROM for the Omnia (a little scared too).

    3) Haven't thought of going andriod though I did play with one in a Verizon store -as you figured, not a good experience.

    4) Again I love the flexibility to customize the looks and sounds of the phone plus my workplace is all microsoft office exchange so having all my data in one place makes me MUCH more effective.

    5) Windows Mobile for me!
    Last edited by joecatskill; 12-16-2009 at 08:08 PM. Reason: spelling errors
    12-16-2009 08:06 PM
  9. Sayo's Avatar
    It looks to me as if most of the people commenting on windows mobile are split right down themiddle when it comes to satisfaction. It seems the die hard people are for the most part satisfied and maybe some of the newbies are a bit more on the opposite side of that argument!
    I'm not so sure. I feel that many Windows Mobile users have stayed with the platform in it's current state because they're:

    1. Requiring an Existing Compatibility
    2. Content With Current Capabilities / Resistant to Change
    3. Hold-outs for Windows Mobile 7

    There are a number great arguments for sticking with Windows Mobile, but few draws for new smartphone users outside of simply device availability (and boy, some of those devices are fairly lustworthy). Ideally, Windows Mobile 7 will fix much of this next year.

    A side note... I'm personally not all that crazy about the name "Windows Phone."
    12-16-2009 09:23 PM
  10. mxian003's Avatar
    1. Are you guys satisfied with where Windows Phone is right now? Or are people simply waiting (im)patiently for Windows Phone 7 (or whatever it's called)?
    2. Is using custom ROMs and the like commonplace on Windows Phone? How many people just use Windows Phone (no skin, ROM, UI, etc)?
    3. Anyone ever think of moving to Android? Is that the most logical destination for Windows Phone refugees? =)
    4. What do you like about Windows Phone that no other platform offers?
    5. Does anyone really call it Windows Phone or is it Windows Mobile
    1. Not completely satisfied, but it fits me the best.
    2. There seem to be very few WinMo phones that come out without some type of UI customization anymore. I think everyone I know who has had a WinMo phone has tried a custom ROM.
    3. Yes and Android is closer to WinMo than anything else out there.
    4. The Today screen is a big one. Another thing is that Live for Mobile lets me have the same contacts and calendar synch'd on phone, Outlook on the desktop and web pretty easily.
    5. WinMo.
    Last edited by mxian003; 12-16-2009 at 09:39 PM. Reason: Calrify
    12-16-2009 09:35 PM
  11. soccernamlak's Avatar
    I will add to this discussion the one thing I do not like about WinMo is that integration with Macs (my primary computer) is pretty much non-existant. Yeah, I know Boot Camp does the trick, but sometimes I wish it would be better.
    12-16-2009 09:45 PM
  12. Dave Blake's Avatar
    1) I have been playing around with WM for the last what like 15 years. I started with a Windows CE 1.0 device it had a monochrome screen. Every device and every software/ROM update has made the device-software combination better. Could Windows Mobile be better sure it could but I for one am happy with the progress that has been made.
    2) Sprint cant make a decent ROM they just cant I have installed custom ROM's on all my devices just as soon as they became available. To say its commonplace not really these devices are expensive and just the thought of messing up is enough to scare most people. The process is really so easy most people would not have a problem so try it you wont regret it.
    3) One word... Yawn...;)
    4) Flexibility and multitasking. Other devices can but not at the level that most WM devices can.
    5) Windows phone is new a way for Microsoft to create a buzz I think, you know, change the name and people will think everything has changed. WM 6.5 is different but not that different all your old stuff still works not like Palms old stuff where you need an immolator to run it. Its Windows Mobile but its also Windows Phone especially if you are talking about the new devices running 6.5. Example I have a Windows Mobile Touch Pro2 running WM6.1 when Sprint releases its 6.5 ROM update is my TP2 now a Windows Phone? According to Microsoft it is.
    12-16-2009 10:08 PM
  13. brat1475's Avatar
    Casey, welcome to the forum. I am curious of your opinions on Windows Mobile since there is a lot of similar situations between Android and WinMo. Here's my answers:

    1. Relatively satisfied. Waiting on Windows Mobile 7 before I completely jump ship.

    2. I was a ROM flashaholic for a while, however not so much now. I run an old ATT Tilt, and I think there is not to much new, fun, and shiny left for this old workhorse. Might feel a little different with a device with better processor, RAM, and screen resolution.

    3. Android has been on my mind lately. I like the apps, OTA updates concept, and surprisingly I like the widgets, call me weird.

    4. I like the outlook integration, versatility of the devices, and having lots of ready info on my today screen, even when using touch flo 2D. I can get a lot of that from Android, my concern is the functionality of the device when I am unable to get a signal or wifi, since I am in the situation often with my job. Also, there's familiarity with the platform for me, I have apps I like, and I know what they can do.

    5. Can't get used to Windows Phone. It started out as PDA, Pocket PC, and Windows Mobile. Windows Phone just doesn't sound as good to me as Windows Mobile.
    12-16-2009 10:31 PM
  14. Tacos's Avatar
    Hey... is it just me or have both of my comments during the last two days been sent to the endless abyss of "moderator approval," eh? Is there any way to get around this? I have more to add, but dont want to take the time to write everything out if it won't be seen...

    Crazy, it works today. In that case, from before...

    1. People don't give it the credit it deserves. Windows Mobile was one of the pioneers in "mobile computing," giving you, at the time, a powerful, portable option in productivity. Wow.. that's a lot of P's.

    2. Anyway, I'm going to have to agree with most consumers now.. It just no longer can maintain relevency in it's current form. I'm on Windows Mobile 6.1, can I upgrade to 6.5? Likely not. 7.0? Nah. Microsoft needs to look to Apple, Google, Palm, etc. in creating an evolving platform on a stationary device.

    3. I use custom roms, but I can also see why those who dont, well.. don't. You don't really have a plethora of safeguards, and most of what people use is very back-alley-esque. Personally, I need it to make the phone do what I need it to do.

    4. Android is new, I think I'll let it settle in first. We'll see what's on the horizon for Windows Mobile 7.0 before jumping ship.

    5. Device choice! Whatever you want, there's likely something from HTC, Samsung, Palm, etc. that will suit your needs. Of course, Android is now getting into this game as well.

    6. Windows Phone is new and weird sounding, like Wii.. people will get used to it.
    12-16-2009 10:36 PM
  15. Tacos's Avatar
    There's a conspiracy! ;)

    All three of my comments over three days have been lost into the seemingly endless abyss of "moderator approval," crazy. Is there any way to get around this? I have much to share, but I don't want to take the time to write everything out if it's not going to be seen...

    Thanks!
    12-16-2009 10:45 PM
  16. nofunnyhats's Avatar
    I hate the term Windows Phone, it tell me Microsoft want to be like Apple. I think they should have just kept Windows Mobile, because it is not just Windows on your phone.
    12-16-2009 11:24 PM
  17. jankyhanky#WP's Avatar
    I am glad MS decided to call their phones Windows Phones. The 'mobile' word was simply superfluous. Of course these 'mobile phones' are the mobile version of Windows.
    Calling all 6.5 devices Windows Phones simplifies marketing and makes the devices instantly more appealing. MS has been bogged down by overly wordy or technical names that ruin a lot of first impressions.
    Companies lose the first impression when they give products awful names. Remember the days when the names all phones (especially Verizon) were just a brand followed by a model number. I had an LG VX7000 or something and the rest of my family had LG VX3600 and VX3800 or some garble to that effect. In recent memory I owned an htc phone branded as the [UTStarcom] Verizon XV6800. Tell me that is not an off-putting name compared to the likes of phones now like the Rogue, Razzle, Imagio, Touch Pro 2, and Droid. People don't get excited about developer model numbers; they get excited about brand names.
    I digress a little, but you can see that simplification is better.
    12-17-2009 03:28 AM
  18. Dave Blake's Avatar
    There's a conspiracy! ;)

    All three of my comments over three days have been lost into the seemingly endless abyss of "moderator approval," crazy. Is there any way to get around this? I have much to share, but I don't want to take the time to write everything out if it's not going to be seen...

    Thanks!
    I don't see any moderated posts from you maybe it was just a glitch. The last 2 are up so it seams to have resolved its self so keep posting and thanks for all your help.
    12-17-2009 06:07 AM
  19. motty69's Avatar
    I've used WinMo (yes, it's WinMo) for about 2 years and have been happy with the progress it has made since I started using it. I'm currently on a VZW TP2 and I love this phone. While a bit underpowered overall it's a good stopgap phone for me. By that I mean that the moblie market is due for a some fairly big changes in the next few years (before I can upgrade again) and this is a solid phone to sit back and watch it all happen. 4G is on the way (new hardware for all), Snapdragon is looking good but Tegra 2 is coming as well (new hardware again), WinMo 7 in a year (new hardware yet again) and Android is moving in the right direction (to early to say new hardware, but my NE2 isn't till 2011). I've jumped the gun a few times in the past, and I'm determined to sit back and watch how things unfold this time. I would love for my next phone to be dual-boot Android/WM7, with a 1GHz processor and true 3D video drivers (I'm looking at you HTC) on a 4G network. It's the future baby, anything could happen!

    As far as custom roms go, gotta have them right now. The stock 6.1 rom on the VZW TP2 was suprisingly good, but once you flash a 6.5 rom with sense 2.5 there's no going back.
    12-17-2009 07:41 AM
  20. SandersJC1964's Avatar
    1. Right now? Not entirely satisfied, but using a 6.5.1 ROM on my Treo Pro has been a mostly pleasant experience, which brings me to;

    2. I have tried various UIs and skins (Spb MS, UL, Manila 2D), but usually would revert back to the stock setup, until the Treo Pro got unlocked, that is. Having never messed with custom ROMs before, I was a little hesitant, but I am glad I flashed to WM 6.5.1. Now I'm not an every day flasher, at least not once I find a ROM that works well for me.

    3. I've definitely considered a transition to Android, especially after playing with a Samsung Moment and the HTC Hero at the Sprint store. However, for the time being, I am sticking with my WM Treo Pro.

    4. Having been a WM user from my days with the Dell Axim x3i, I've grown accustomed to keeping my device and desktop synced, but since Google started enabling syncing via Exchange, and with the advent of Microsoft MyPhone service, I've been getting my info into the "cloud", so an OS transition wouldn't be as tedious as previously.

    5. I just call it my phone.
    12-17-2009 07:59 AM
  21. djitch's Avatar
    So are you aware of anytihing that windows is going to be coming out with anytime soon that is going to be a "kick butt" phone? I was satisfied with my windows phone at first too... then i was turned onto the other formats that exist. And I only saying that windows really needs to step up their game if they want to stay in the game as a major player!
    12-17-2009 08:13 AM
  22. mvierling's Avatar
    - Custom ROMS are very problematic. Viigo does not work on most of them, including the very popular Energy ROMS.

    - I would like to say that I'm waiting for Windows Mobile 7, but the truth is, it is apparently a resource hog and requires a 1Ghz processor to run it. Those of us using Touch Pro 2/Tilt2 won't be able to run it, at least officially. Sure, there will be cooked roms, but it will be so slow that it won't be very functional.

    - Microsoft has been working on Windows Mobile 7 for over 3 years and still can't get it released. Google and Apple have been able to create a new OS for a phone in less than half that time.

    My past two phones have been Windows phones, but Microsoft is either unwilling or unable to create an finger friendly OS for a phone. It is very hard to justify continued use of their outdated OS.
    12-17-2009 09:18 AM
  23. DaNeener's Avatar
    1. It's definitely better than it was 1.5-2 years ago, but I'm looking forward to the WinMo7/Zune software that will be out in a year. Maybe on a HD3?
    2. I've flashed a few ROMs on my Fuze, but do it seldomly.
    3. If it was not for my gf being on my plan, and her love of all things iPhone, I'd have a Hero or Droid (more likely) in my hands right now.
    4. I'm having a REALLY hard time coming up with a definitive answer for that question these days.
    5. WinMo
    12-17-2009 10:26 AM
  24. bahbah's Avatar
    I was on WM 6.1 and while I liked it I was concerned that the platform was not progressing nearly as quickly as others. I recently converted over to the Droid and have been very happy with the experience. Droid is much faster and I find it easier to customize using the marketplace and settings on the device.
    12-17-2009 12:56 PM
  25. Bassmanbob's Avatar
    So are you aware of anytihing that windows is going to be coming out with anytime soon that is going to be a "kick butt" phone? I was satisfied with my windows phone at first too... then i was turned onto the other formats that exist. And I only saying that windows really needs to step up their game if they want to stay in the game as a major player!
    I have one thing to say.....US HD2= kick butt!!!:D
    12-17-2009 03:06 PM
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