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  1. Tacos's Avatar
    I have my fingers crossed for the HTC Incredible since the HD2 and Nexus1 are both landing at T-mo. Sad days for the two largest networks.
    I would bet on the HD2 finding its way over to other carriers eventually.. and I don't think anything is for certain on the Nexus One Android phone, but, if not, the new HTC does look pretty interesting.
    12-19-2009 09:51 PM
  2. Bassmanbob's Avatar
    I would bet on the HD2 finding its way over to other carriers eventually.. and I don't think anything is for certain on the Nexus One Android phone, but, if not, the new HTC does look pretty interesting.
    I really wouldn't think so as the debut of the HD2 is likely to be overshadowed by the mysterious 4th generation iphone that is "probably" coming out in june....as much as i would love to see the HD2 on ATT, i just dont think it's gonna happen...:(
    12-19-2009 10:01 PM
  3. soccernamlak's Avatar
    I really wouldn't think so as the debut of the HD2 is likely to be overshadowed by the mysterious 4th generation iphone that is "probably" coming out in june....as much as i would love to see the HD2 on ATT, i just dont think it's gonna happen...:(
    It's suppose to from what I've heard, but as with every HTC device on AT&T, it will never be advertised and be overpriced by 2x what it goes for on other carriers.
    12-19-2009 10:52 PM
  4. lukegarratt's Avatar
    I guess a lot of this discussion is applicable to the US only with the limitations of the various networks.

    In Australia (smaller populaiton base yes) they all pretty much use the 900/1700/2100 frequencies, with 850 reserved for ultra-fast but ultra-expensive plans by the national carrier Telstra. I'm glad we don't have the headache you guys in the US have when it comes to deciding on device v network (until 4 band chips become more common place)

    With respect to the OP:

    1. Are you guys satisfied with where Windows Phone is right now? Or are people simply waiting (im)patiently for Windows Phone 7 (or whatever it's called)? - Based upon what friend's have shown me with their devices - I'm waiting to see what WP7 brings. As it is now, it's just too computery-looking and the HTC devices look lovely, but the whole sense UI integrations looks sporadic.
    2. Is using custom ROMs and the like commonplace on Windows Phone? How many people just use Windows Phone (no skin, ROM, UI, etc)? - Don't know anyone who runs custom roms - and I don't think anybody in any OS/device combo should be expected too.
    3. Anyone ever think of moving to Android? Is that the most logical destination for Windows Phone refugees? =) - The most logical destination would be based upon why you are leaving WinMo. A better day-to-day phone - S60 Nokia. Polished simplicity - iPhone. More control over the device but with baby fed open source - Android. Want to be different - Maemo.
    4. What do you like about Windows Phone that no other platform offers? - Much better 3rd party support without the anal-retentive shutdowns that Apple impose. Security and mail support are a boon too
    5. Does anyone really call it Windows Phone or is it Windows Mobile - WinMo
    12-19-2009 11:32 PM
  5. onlineaddy's Avatar
    another round
    12-20-2009 02:45 PM
  6. jankyhanky#WP's Avatar
    It's suppose to from what I've heard, but as with every HTC device on AT&T, it will never be advertised and be overpriced by 2x what it goes for on other carriers.
    Well that's sort of true. Tilt 2/TP2 is selling on AT&T for $299.99 but HTC has its own rebate of $100 if you trade in any smartphone (good chance to toss those BB Pearls?). It's a ripoff normally, but that HTC bonus makes it a great deal.

    If they keep up these rebates on future WinMo phones, they'll be competitive.
    12-20-2009 03:31 PM
  7. dougsyo's Avatar
    At this point, next phone will be:
    - Tilt/Touch Pro 2 (or successor) - multiple carriers, I may say with ATT
    - Droid (Verizon)
    - Imagio (Verizon - although WHY did they leave out a flash?)
    - HD2 (if it comes to Verizon or ATT)

    I really DO like WM, and I'm starting to do development for it. The primary reason for those phone choices is finger-friendliness.

    Doug
    Last edited by dougsyo; 12-20-2009 at 04:20 PM.
    12-20-2009 04:15 PM
  8. fishzle#WP's Avatar
    The story in australia is just so different. App store access isn't the same, and the fact that many phones are EDGE is just so old-hat. The major networks here are 3G(UMTS)/HSDA. Telstra has announced 21Mbps to the phone, but there are no phones yet. Where are the phones to make use of the network?
    12-20-2009 05:26 PM
  9. soccernamlak's Avatar
    Well that's sort of true. Tilt 2/TP2 is selling on AT&T for $299.99 but HTC has its own rebate of $100 if you trade in any smartphone (good chance to toss those BB Pearls?). It's a ripoff normally, but that HTC bonus makes it a great deal.

    If they keep up these rebates on future WinMo phones, they'll be competitive.
    Ha, hey know, I have a Pearl, it's a great little phone. But yeah, I've learned my lesson after dropping $350 on my Tilt when it first came out and had the screen problem with it 2 weeks later (with AT&T saying not our problem).

    For HTC phones on contract, Amazon Wireless....you really can't beat some of their deals.
    12-20-2009 05:56 PM
  10. Fobok's Avatar
    I know I'm a little late getting into the contest on this site, but hope I'm not too late. :)

    Windows Mobile, I think, has a couple of really cool specific phones. My problems with them have to do with software, having seen a demo of the interface it doesn't seem very well designed in the modern market.

    Still, if the HD2 came/comes to Rogers, I'll be seriously tempted to extend my contract to upgrade.
    12-20-2009 06:26 PM
  11. Sayo's Avatar
    At this point, next phone will be:
    - Tilt/Touch Pro 2 (or successor) - multiple carriers, I may say with ATT
    - Droid (Verizon)
    - Imagio (Verizon - although WHY did they leave out a flash?)
    - HD2 (if it comes to Verizon or ATT)

    I really DO like WM, and I'm starting to do development for it. The primary reason for those phone choices is finger-friendliness.

    Doug
    Isn't there supposedly a touch-friendly version of Windows Mobile 6.5(.1?) gearing up to be released? Pair that slight UI bump with HTC's Sense UI and you might have a recipe for removing most all of the terribly dated design elements of Windows Mobile in advance of Windows Mobile 7.

    ..Not to mention how the HTC HD2 seems to meet all the minimum requirements for an eventual Windows Mobile 7 upgrade.
    12-20-2009 07:11 PM
  12. Sayo's Avatar

    I really DO like WM, and I'm starting to do development for it. The primary reason for those phone choices is finger-friendliness.
    Well, Isn't there supposedly a touch-friendly version of Windows Mobile 6.5(.1?) gearing up to be released? Pair that slight UI bump with HTC's Sense UI and you might have a recipe for removing most all of the terribly dated design elements of Windows Mobile in advance of Windows Mobile 7.

    ..Not to mention how the HTC HD2 seems to meet all the minimum requirements for an eventual Windows Mobile 7 upgrade.

    P.S. It seems I'm getting that "Moderation" comment that others have mentioned too.
    12-20-2009 08:55 PM
  13. Tacos's Avatar
    With all that's been said, I'm still a pretty big fan of the HD2. It has some of the best specs (on paper) of any smartphone I've seen.

    Good contest. And good luck!
    Last edited by Tacos; 12-20-2009 at 10:15 PM.
    12-20-2009 09:59 PM
  14. rodhnc's Avatar
    Smarhphone round-robin contest entry
    12-20-2009 10:32 PM
  15. Bassmanbob's Avatar
    Doesn't Windows Mobile have a touch-friendly version of 6.5(.1?) on the horizon for release? That, paired with HTC's Sense UI, might successfully remove most all of the remaining 'old' and 'unfriendly' UI elements in order to make it more appealing to consumers.
    WinMo has been "more" touch friendly since the release of WM6 but mostly due in part to the patented TouchFlo software implemented by HTC....
    12-21-2009 12:40 AM
  16. JackG058's Avatar
    Hey, does the posts repeating the same thing count toward the contest? If so, I'm surprised that this conversation has stayed focused on the topic as it has thus far.

    WinMo without the aid of HTC or SPB would truly be drab compared to the newer OS's such as Android or webOS. But with the TouchFlo 3D (now SenseUI) or SPB's mobile shell, along with the functionality of WinMo, I think we have a great combo here.
    12-21-2009 12:05 PM
  17. onlineaddy's Avatar
    Is this thread good any more for giveaway entries now that week 2 is underway?
    12-21-2009 01:57 PM
  18. pischk's Avatar
    Here are a couple of questions I have to get it started:

    1. Are you guys satisfied with where Windows Phone is right now? Or are people simply waiting (im)patiently for Windows Phone 7 (or whatever it's called)?
    I love the improvements in Windows Phone 6.5.3; it just gets better and better. It is so finger and gesture friendly, especially compared to version 6.5. With all that I see in 6.5.3, I am so excited about version 7, but I'm definitely not a lame duck until then!

    2. Is using custom ROMs and the like commonplace on Windows Phone? How many people just use Windows Phone (no skin, ROM, UI, etc)?
    I believe Custom ROMs is why Windows Mobile/Windows Phone has not died. For years, the phone carriers have bogged down some great hardware with their bloatware and made many phones unusable or almost unusable. With Custom ROMS, people remove the bloatware and the beauty that is Windows Phone can come out and do its thing!

    3. Anyone ever think of moving to Android? Is that the most logical destination for Windows Phone refugees? =)
    Android is still too much in its infancy for me to depend on it for ongoing business and personal needs. While I really love some of the cool apps being developed on it, many I would not use but once or twice. However, Google is taking advantage of the Microsoft's delays to push out a great platform that will have many usable apps in the near future.

    4. What do you like about Windows Phone that no other platform offers?
    Complete compatibility with Windows-based environments, whether home or work (e.g., Exchange, ActiveSync, Microsoft Office, etc.). I know of people who still lose information when they sync "cross platform" to another phone, whether its notes or additional Contact information.

    5. Does anyone really call it Windows Phone or is it Windows Mobile
    I actually use "Windows Phone" when I refer to my OS. Having grown up with Windows CE, Windows Mobile and now Windows Phone, I can truly enjoy the significant changes and productive changes through the years.

    I hope that Microsoft can do something to get Windows Phone 7 out the door before 4th quarter 2010 and into the hands of consumers before its too late!
    12-21-2009 06:40 PM
  19. WinMoDoug's Avatar
    I have checked out the Droid and Hero. They seem a bit snappier than my HTC TP2, but all in all, I like the configurability of WinMo.
    12-21-2009 10:30 PM
  20. JackG058's Avatar
    I have checked out the Droid and Hero. They seem a bit snappier than my HTC TP2, but all in all, I like the configurability of WinMo.
    Really on the Hero? I carried it for a day to try it out, deciding whether to keep my Touch Pro2 or the Hero. I ended up giving my son the Hero and keeping the TP2. I find my TP2 quick (on par with the Hero) and with a more complete experience for my needs. Plus, the battery life on the TP2 exceeds what usage I found on the Hero. A big point for the TP2 in my book.
    12-22-2009 10:25 AM
  21. cafe_civet's Avatar
    WM: Configuration-yes absolutely! Why do people feel like it's in such dire need of an upgrade?
    12-22-2009 11:07 AM
  22. onlineaddy's Avatar
    another day of entry
    12-22-2009 11:53 AM
  23. bahbah's Avatar
    I was a windows mobile user for several years and was OK with it and it's performance. When the Droid came out I took a look at it and was impressed. I converted over to the Droid and I'm really happy with the experience. I don't think I'll ever go back. WP7 is not due for another year and by the time it comes out, it will probably still be 2 years behind where Android will be at that time. MS is going to need to make some very radical changes if it's going to stay in the mobile OS business.

    I've not pursued the custom ROM's. I'm sure you can get good functionality from this approach but I'm concerned that I'd run into incompatibilities down the road. I expect the native OS to cover all of my needs.

    The transition that I made from WM to Android was very easy and I'd recommend anyone thinking about making the jump to do so.

    The main thing that WM has is ease of syncing with Outlook. Other platforms can do it as well but not as easily. As this issue get addressed on the other platforms, WM will loose it's main competitive advantage. Office is not a big issue for me because I've not progressed to the point of needing it on a mobile handset.

    It will always be Windows Mobile to me.
    12-22-2009 12:38 PM
  24. rodhnc's Avatar
    Smartphone round-robin contest entry
    12-22-2009 08:23 PM
  25. dougsyo's Avatar
    Now that Iris is owned by RIM, I'd like to see a supported WM webkit-based browser again. I'm running into an occasional mobile site that doesn't seem to work quite right with Skyfire, Opera or IE.

    Doug
    12-22-2009 11:03 PM
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