01-26-2014 02:58 AM
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  1. crystal_planet's Avatar
    Your Face and Name Will Appear in Google Ads Starting Today

    I'm so glad I dumped that BS service months ago.
    MSFTisMIA and Laura Knotek like this.
    01-09-2014 07:43 AM
  2. Dave Blake's Avatar
    What a garbage company I am so glad to be out of everything Google.
    aximtreo, metalchick719 and jmshub like this.
    01-09-2014 08:09 AM
  3. FinancialP's Avatar
    There is a big opt out option. They've been showcasing the opt out option for a long time now.


    It's very smart from a business perspective. However very creepy from a consumer level.
    01-09-2014 10:32 AM
  4. jmshub's Avatar
    Having an opt out is the only way that Google gets away with stepping over that Creepy-Line again and again and again.
    01-09-2014 10:46 AM
  5. Dave Blake's Avatar
    I put this in the same category as companies that offer a free trial but you have to give them your credit card information first. That way when you forget to cancel they can go ahead and charge you.
    01-09-2014 01:39 PM
  6. crystal_planet's Avatar
    ^^Exactly. Google is skirting the issue with an opt out procedure that they are banking on folks not pay attention to, instead of consumers being out by default.

    This is the kind of stuff Microsoft was crucified for years ago.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    01-10-2014 09:31 AM
  7. Jas00555's Avatar
    ^^Exactly. Google is skirting the issue with an opt out procedure that they are banking on folks not pay attention to, instead of consumers being out by default.

    This is the kind of stuff Microsoft was crucified for years ago.
    dude, I said the exact same thing on twitter and people freaked out over it.

    "no, no, this is innovation!"

    Really?

    "you're not going to see the ads"

    Oh, that makes it much better

    "its going to increase their revenue"

    Well, then I'm glad a multi-billion dollar corporation is making more money

    "MS could never come up with an idea like this"

    Thank God
    QilleRz and HyperChrisX like this.
    01-10-2014 09:36 AM
  8. ag1986's Avatar
    It seems that this will only be visible to people who are in your Circles, right? That makes it equivalent to a Facebook Like, which is also all over the Internet.
    01-10-2014 10:24 AM
  9. Jas00555's Avatar
    It seems that this will only be visible to people who are in your Circles, right? That makes it equivalent to a Facebook Like, which is also all over the Internet.
    Well, Google being Google won't come out and say, at least not that I've seen, so it could just be people in your circles or it could be anyone.

    Plus the difference is that people use Facebook to be social. People don't do the same with Google, even though Google is shoving G+ down peoples throats.

    Here's the exact ToS:
    If you have a Google Account, we may display your Profile name, Profile photo, and actions you take on Google or on third-party applications connected to your Google Account (such as +1s, reviews you write and comments you post) in our Services, including displaying in ads and other commercial contexts.
    01-10-2014 10:55 AM
  10. sahib lopez's Avatar
    dude, I said the exact same thing on twitter and people freaked out over it.

    "no, no, this is innovation!"

    Really?

    "you're not going to see the ads"

    Oh, that makes it much better

    "its going to increase their revenue"

    Well, then I'm glad a multi-billion dollar corporation is making more money

    "MS could never come up with an idea like this"

    Thank God
    yikes i never thought i would see the day when someone would stick up for a company that will plaster your face in ads so that company could get money while they take all your info about you o.o/ i don't know about them but ill stay far away from that company
    01-14-2014 12:02 AM
  11. ag1986's Avatar
    yikes i never thought i would see the day when someone would stick up for a company that will plaster your face in ads so that company could get money while they take all your info about you o.o/ i don't know about them but ill stay far away from that company
    I don't know about you but I do realise that they offer a service in exchange for that information (and to be honest I don't really care anymore - they all do exactly the same thing, e.g. Nokia now showing ads in Here Maps). If you really want to maintain your privacy, you should not use banking services, store loyalty cards and of course stay far away from the Internet.
    01-14-2014 12:16 AM
  12. Reflexx's Avatar
    I don't mind too much about my friends seeing certain endorsements. However, I only want that to appear when I am knowingly and explicitly endorsing something for that purpose.

    I don't like the idea that a comment that I make on YouTube (a Google service) can be used without me explicitly stating so.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    01-14-2014 12:34 AM
  13. Dave Blake's Avatar
    I don't know about you but I do realise that they offer a service in exchange for that information (and to be honest I don't really care anymore - they all do exactly the same thing, e.g. Nokia now showing ads in Here Maps). If you really want to maintain your privacy, you should not use banking services, store loyalty cards and of course stay far away from the Internet.
    Here maps adds are nothing like what Google is doing. Shame on you for making that comparison its misleading. As people pass on or fail to maintain their privacy with one company we open the door for others to do the same. Microsoft doesn't monitor anything you do without first asking your permission. You have to opt in remember when you set up your Windows Phone 8 device? Remember it asked you if Microsoft could take your data to help improve their services? That simple "May we" makes the difference. We will never see anything like that on a Google device.
    sahib lopez and metalchick719 like this.
    01-14-2014 07:13 AM
  14. FinancialP's Avatar
    Here maps adds are nothing like what Google is doing. Shame on you for making that comparison its misleading. As people pass on or fail to maintain their privacy with one company we open the door for others to do the same. Microsoft doesn't monitor anything you do without first asking your permission. You have to opt in remember when you set up your Windows Phone 8 device? Remember it asked you if Microsoft could take your data to help improve their services? That simple "May we" makes the difference. We will never see anything like that on a Google device.
    Huh? That exact same statement is on every device from every maker.
    01-14-2014 08:54 AM
  15. Dave Blake's Avatar
    Huh? That exact same statement is on every device from every maker.

    I didn't see that on my Note 3 or my Nexus 7 during setup. It wasn't on my sisters Chrome book or my Gmail account. I have sold my Note 3 and Nexus 7. I have also basically closed my Gmail. My sister still has the Chrome book thought it sit on a shelf sense she got a Dell Venue Pro 8 for Christmas. I have experience with these devices.
    01-14-2014 09:16 AM
  16. windoors's Avatar
    Google is derailing from the principles set by themselves!
    01-14-2014 09:19 AM
  17. FinancialP's Avatar
    I didn't see that on my Note 3 or my Nexus 7 during setup. It wasn't on my sisters Chrome book or my Gmail account. I have sold my Note 3 and Nexus 7. I have also basically closed my Gmail. My sister still has the Chrome book thought it sit on a shelf sense she got a Dell Venue Pro 8 for Christmas. I have experience with these devices.
    I can't speak for chrome book but it's on my Nexus and iPhone during setup. Even was on my Windows 8 desktop.

    Asking to improve services by sending data is common practice.
    01-14-2014 09:20 AM
  18. sahib lopez's Avatar
    I don't know about you but I do realise that they offer a service in exchange for that information (and to be honest I don't really care anymore - they all do exactly the same thing, e.g. Nokia now showing ads in Here Maps). If you really want to maintain your privacy, you should not use banking services, store loyalty cards and of course stay far away from the Internet.
    I never said anything about privacy I get that nothing is secure on the internet but I called out how google is making money with your info and google users are ok with it. and nokia is NOT the same as google. they are not out to make money out of getting your info on what you search up unlike google
    01-14-2014 12:45 PM
  19. mase123987's Avatar
    I can't speak for chrome book but it's on my Nexus and iPhone during setup. Even was on my Windows 8 desktop.

    Asking to improve services by sending data is common practice.
    That doesn't mean what you think. That specific example is for bugs and issues with services/apps. If there is an issue, that gives them the ability to pull bug logs, info about your computer and what you were doing when it happened.
    FinancialP likes this.
    01-14-2014 12:54 PM
  20. AndyCalling's Avatar
    Personally, I suggest you use a non-pc user name and a cartoon avatar on Google services. Not much chance they'll quote you then.
    metalchick719 likes this.
    01-14-2014 01:20 PM
  21. windoors's Avatar
    If you want to opt-out of new Shared Endorsements in Ads (face stuff) use this link: https://plus.google.com/settings/endorsements
    If you want to opt-out of interest-based ads, use this link https://www.google.com/settings/u/0/ads.
    ag1986 and saBBfanBoy like this.
    01-15-2014 06:01 AM
  22. ag1986's Avatar
    I didn't see that on my Note 3 or my Nexus 7 during setup. It wasn't on my sisters Chrome book or my Gmail account. I have sold my Note 3 and Nexus 7. I have also basically closed my Gmail. My sister still has the Chrome book thought it sit on a shelf sense she got a Dell Venue Pro 8 for Christmas. I have experience with these devices.
    I saw it today on a Nexus 4, during setup, specifically asking me if using my location to improve services was ok as well as the more general one. mentioned elsewhere.

    Similarly, Google Now will not use your location or data from your email inbox or calendar or search history, until you open it for the first time and accept terms and conditions. G+ and Auto-upload on your phone also ask for permission first before starting to do so. Making these endorsements 'opt-out' is scummy to say the least, but you know what they say - there ain't no such thing as a free lunch. Somewhere, somehow, you are paying. Please check again if you happen to have an Android device still around.
    01-15-2014 06:20 AM
  23. ag1986's Avatar
    I never said anything about privacy I get that nothing is secure on the internet but I called out how google is making money with your info and google users are ok with it. and nokia is NOT the same as google. they are not out to make money out of getting your info on what you search up unlike google
    It's just a different business model.

    Google provides a service for free and uses information about you to target ads in response. Nokia sells you hardware (although now it seems that they're serving ads in HERE maps...) and makes money from that. I know more than most people about how Google collects data and I do believe that their services are worth the trade.

    The funny part is how MS can put ads into Win 8/8.1, something that I did pay $40 for, and get away with it: Windows 8.1 Smart Search advertising tracks all user searches | BGR
    01-15-2014 06:29 AM
  24. crystal_planet's Avatar
    Fine. When Microsoft starts using my face and name in ads give me a call and I'll dump their services. Until then, Google is king of this particular dung heap.

    Sent from my Lumia 1020
    metalchick719 likes this.
    01-15-2014 05:06 PM
  25. Dave Blake's Avatar
    People please make sure you know and understand the difference. I don't want you to believe me I want you to do the research yourself so that you know the facts. Nowhere on any Android device setup does it ask you if Google can use your personal identity markers to target advertise others. Now understand the difference. Whatever you put on a Google server via Google services belongs to Google. By placing your email, pictures, phone numbers or whatever you put on a Google server it becomes Googles intellectual property. You surrender all your rights to that data the second the data is uploaded.

    Microsoft clamed no rights to any of your data uploaded to Microsoft servers via Microsoft services. It is stated in the terms of conditions that your personal data is yours Microsoft will not use your stuff, period.

    Please don't believe me go do the research yourself once you have what you need please come and prove me wrong.

    Please provide links....
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    01-15-2014 09:38 PM
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