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  1. etad putta's Avatar
    Or don't sign a contract at all

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
    The only reason to sign a contract these days is to get an iphone at a discounted price. Android and windows phones can be purchased at a very low price just a few months after launch.
    01-27-2014 11:58 AM
  2. xandros9's Avatar
    The only reason to sign a contract these days is to get an iphone at a discounted price. Android and windows phones can be purchased at a very low price just a few months after launch.
    Yes, because you can pick up a Galaxy S4 for $300 now, or a Lumia 1520 for a similar price
    01-27-2014 12:02 PM
  3. nasellok's Avatar
    I was an Android user from Eclair up to Jelly Bean (4.2). While Jelly Bean was a blessing over ICS in response and smoothness, it still couldn't overcome the problems I had with freezing and latency.

    On my Galaxy Nexus, running stock options, I couldn't have any more than three screen populated with icons or widgets before it crippled the performance of the phone. Granted, it started getting much worse with age but it never was great right out of the box, especially with ICS. Then started the random problems with the battery drain and wifi/mobile data switching not working. Although I think the wifi/mobile data problem was hardware. Comparing the Galaxy Nexus to my Lumia 928, there is a night and day difference. Both have 1Gb of RAM and 32Gb of storage. The 928 has more stuff on with more background tasks than my Nexus ever had and performance wise the 928 is 200 times better. Yeah, I know the 928 has a 1.5 dual core in it versus the 1.2 dual core of the Nexus but there shouldn't have been THAT much of an improvement, but it was.

    When my wife had the Samsung Fascinate (Galaxy S 1) there was nothing but problems from day one.

    My Kindle Fire is almost useless. Talk about slow, unresponsive, and apps randomly shutdown. I factory reset the tablet once but it’s still a turd. The only thing was use it for at this point is so my two year old can watch educational vids and paint.

    I’m sure performance is much better with newer hardware but in my experience Android is more inferior.
    I have the same issues with my Galaxy Nexus - I would have thrown it into oncoming traffic had it not been for my contract - well, now my contract is up, and I am waiting......waiting.....waiting.......waiting some more, still waiting for Verizon to get their act together and release the damn 929/Icon so I can forever say goodbye to Android. My Wife is in the same boat, only she has HTC Droid Incredible 2, which surprisingly has a much better use history than my Nexus - either way, she needs a new phone, and me being our in-house tech support, I have convinced her to go the WP route with me - we have Windows 8 PC / Dell Venue 8 pro tablets at home, and I have convinced her that she will love it (I base this entirely on my hands on experience with the 928 in the Verizon store), and my reading of this site. I know there are some shortcomings on WP, but they seem to be less and less as more updates are released. I was on Android since the OG Droid 1, and then the Droid X, and then the Galaxy Nexus - so 6 + years of waiting on android updates, etc. Either way, going to switch to WP, and hopefully I love it as much as my Windows 8 tablet/pc. I am really looking forward to seeing what WP 8.1, and threshold will have in store for us all.
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    01-27-2014 12:07 PM
  4. Lloydbm4's Avatar
    I have a few questions, first, which company makes the devices you're having issues with? HTC, Samsung, Motorolla? Second, which carrier? I haven't had an issue (that I haven't caused) with Android, and I've had them since my G1. Not to say I don't like my Lumia, just as a point, none of my Androids have had any of these issues. I have done a lot of custom ROMs, and haven't had lag or anything, and have stock on my S4, with XPosed modules to customize it, and Titanium Backup because who wants to be forced to have Trip Advisor.

    I'm tempted to call this a FUD-like post to be honest, as I don't see anything specific here. Do you think if your issues were widespread, people would continue to use Android? I mean, lag, sure, it *can* happen, but there's cache cleaners. But, the data connection issues, I don't think anyone would use it if that happened.

    I like Android because it feels more like a computer in my pocket, as I can tweak whatever I want. I like WP because it isn't like a computer, it's a smart phone. Never had to go w/o my Lumia working because I tweaked it, but I have had to hobble along without my GS4 because I forgot not to mess with my EFS partition.

    Edited for clarity.
    The OP talks like he is in a 3rd world country. Who the hell buys an Android phone on Gingerbread these days? What are we, back in the year 2010?

    But to the point, the OP's post is FUD. Pure crap. I have a Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 both running 4.4.2 and no issues. (I also happen to own an HTC One, a Galaxy S3, a Lumia 520, an iPhone 5S and a Lumia 1020.) The Nex5 is stock and the Nex7 is rooted with Xposed Modules for that custom ROM feel. The Android OS is much more mature over Windows 8 (even the Lumia Black update), but that is because of the sheer amount of developers for the platform and Google constantly updating Google Apps, not to mention the entire OS.

    Sometimes I just have to shake my head when I read certain threads.
    01-27-2014 07:05 PM
  5. fatclue_98's Avatar
    The OP talks like he is in a 3rd world country. Who the hell buys an Android phone on Gingerbread these days? What are we, back in the year 2010?

    But to the point, the OP's post is FUD. Pure crap. I have a Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 both running 4.4.2 and no issues. (I also happen to own an HTC One, a Galaxy S3, a Lumia 520, an iPhone 5S and a Lumia 1020.) The Nex5 is stock and the Nex7 is rooted with Xposed Modules for that custom ROM feel. The Android OS is much more mature over Windows 8 (even the Lumia Black update), but that is because of the sheer amount of developers for the platform and Google constantly updating Google Apps, not to mention the entire OS.

    Sometimes I just have to shake my head when I read certain threads.
    We're not in 2010, but there are many people who either cannot afford to pay full retail or their credit makes it very difficult to be on-contract. If you live in the US you'll know that we had a pretty rough time in '08 and many good, hard working people lost their collective asses. There are a boatload of GB devices on prepaid carriers that some of these people have to purchase. Not everybody can afford to have a stable as you do. Personally, I have more devices from more platforms than I know what to do with, but I consider myself blessed and fortunate. In other words, chill the **** out.
    01-27-2014 07:48 PM
  6. dkediger's Avatar
    Of course, we can't really see how our WPs are handling this, but I always taken aback by all the detritus left behind by "uninstalled" apps. That and just the free for all for where in the file system they would install or keep data.

    Truly seemed like it was worse than older versions of desktop Windows.
    01-27-2014 07:49 PM
  7. linzi7319's Avatar
    But, I think none of us wants to buy older version whether windows or android. Right?
    01-27-2014 09:45 PM
  8. tekhna's Avatar
    We're not in 2010, but there are many people who either cannot afford to pay full retail or their credit makes it very difficult to be on-contract. If you live in the US you'll know that we had a pretty rough time in '08 and many good, hard working people lost their collective asses. There are a boatload of GB devices on prepaid carriers that some of these people have to purchase. Not everybody can afford to have a stable as you do. Personally, I have more devices from more platforms than I know what to do with, but I consider myself blessed and fortunate. In other words, chill the **** out.
    Luckily the Moto G is 99 bucks on Verizon and getting really quick updates. By far the best deal in tech right now.
    01-27-2014 11:14 PM
  9. tgp's Avatar
    Luckily the Moto G is 99 bucks on Verizon and getting really quick updates. By far the best deal in tech right now.
    True, it is excellent value. The problem with the Verizon Moto G is that it can only be used on Verizon prepaid for at least 6 months. No Verizon postpaid, no Page Plus or other Verizon MVNOs.
    01-27-2014 11:32 PM
  10. MameTozhio's Avatar
    As a dual Android-WindowsPhone user.. there are some biases in this..

    Android 2.3.x is NOT reliable any more, if you want full app support at least use a phone with Android 4.0.x instead.. even then some apps won't work, a lot of groups are moving to Jelly Bean 4.1.x for app development now.

    There are lots of apps on play store to help clean cache which makes the phone much faster.

    But I do feel WP is much more optimized than Android.. I've been using my L520 as a main phone for the past 2 weeks and have been very impressed, and plan to use it as my main phone to the visible future.
    01-28-2014 12:07 AM
  11. stalemate1's Avatar
    The OP talks like he is in a 3rd world country. Who the hell buys an Android phone on Gingerbread these days? What are we, back in the year 2010?

    But to the point, the OP's post is FUD. Pure crap. I have a Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 both running 4.4.2 and no issues. (I also happen to own an HTC One, a Galaxy S3, a Lumia 520, an iPhone 5S and a Lumia 1020.) The Nex5 is stock and the Nex7 is rooted with Xposed Modules for that custom ROM feel. The Android OS is much more mature over Windows 8 (even the Lumia Black update), but that is because of the sheer amount of developers for the platform and Google constantly updating Google Apps, not to mention the entire OS.

    Sometimes I just have to shake my head when I read certain threads.
    Wait a year or two with the Android devices. As mentioned, it takes time, its not instant.

    But EVERYONE who has ever owned an android in MY family (including me) has had issues.

    Google "issue with android" see how many results you get....I'm not the only one.

    Your guess is correct, I live in RSA but its very hard to get a device with ginger bread, you can only get it on very few online retailers and who ever sells one second hand.
    01-28-2014 12:18 AM
  12. stalemate1's Avatar
    As a dual Android-WindowsPhone user.. there are some biases in this..

    Android 2.3.x is NOT reliable any more, if you want full app support at least use a phone with Android 4.0.x instead.. even then some apps won't work, a lot of groups are moving to Jelly Bean 4.1.x for app development now.

    There are lots of apps on play store to help clean cache which makes the phone much faster.

    But I do feel WP is much more optimized than Android.. I've been using my L520 as a main phone for the past 2 weeks and have been very impressed, and plan to use it as my main phone to the visible future.
    Reliability as in consistency with the apps it ran well when you first got it,

    There's, network reliability to consider. There's battery life, there's...many things.
    01-28-2014 12:22 AM
  13. etad putta's Avatar
    Start this thread over at android central so we can see what they think.
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    01-28-2014 01:02 AM
  14. PureView's Avatar
    Are we really forgetting the 'other storage' issue on Windows Phones? That is a problem that gets worse overtime as well. Allegedly it got fixed, but we had to live with it for over a year.
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    01-28-2014 01:16 AM
  15. stalemate1's Avatar
    Start this thread over at android central so we can see what they think.
    I'm not sure that's wise, it could become very heated. I just don't want to risk anyone getting banned.

    I'm also curious to hear what they would say.
    Last edited by stalemate1; 01-28-2014 at 02:09 AM.
    01-28-2014 01:21 AM
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    01-28-2014 02:10 AM
  17. pseudoware's Avatar
    True, it is excellent value. The problem with the Verizon Moto G is that it can only be used on Verizon prepaid for at least 6 months. No Verizon postpaid, no Page Plus or other Verizon MVNOs.
    The problem is it's Verizon.
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    01-28-2014 03:08 AM
  18. Ahmed Hassan7's Avatar
    It dates back to 2009...it released with Android 1.5

    Anything Android 2.3 (ginger bread) or older should be fine. It's just the newer versions of Android that came after 2.3 that you must be weary of.

    The only android device running 2.3 that still available on the market is the samsung galaxy Y. (thats the only one I know of)



    HTC Cha Cha





    Sent from my Lumia 520 using Tapatalk
    01-28-2014 03:18 AM
  19. stalemate1's Avatar
    HTC Cha Cha





    Sent from my Lumia 520 using Tapatalk
    No offense but that device has very poor comparability with apps as apps are made for full touch screens.
    01-28-2014 04:59 AM
  20. m3kk's Avatar
    I have the opposite experience, the newer version the better m latest 4.4 is pretty good
    01-28-2014 06:02 AM
  21. PureView's Avatar
    No offense but that device has very poor comparability with apps as apps are made for full touch screens.
    huh? It's a touch screen phone with a QWERTY keypad. There have been many such Android phones.
    01-28-2014 08:44 AM
  22. stalemate1's Avatar
    huh? It's a touch screen phone with a QWERTY keypad. There have been many such Android phones.
    I only know of two. The cha cha and a galaxy that have a physical keyboard out of hundreds of android devices. :)
    01-28-2014 09:08 AM
  23. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I only know of two. The cha cha and a galaxy that have a physical keyboard out of hundreds of android devices. :)
    The Droid Pro had a fixed keyboard. The Moto Admiral had a fixed keyboard. Let's not even get into the dozens of devices with sliding keyboards.
    01-28-2014 09:17 AM
  24. MameTozhio's Avatar
    The Droid Pro had a fixed keyboard. The Moto Admiral had a fixed keyboard. Let's not even get into the dozens of devices with sliding keyboards.
    And HTC Desire Z/T-Mobile G2
    01-28-2014 09:19 AM
  25. Rockfella's Avatar
    Hey! I was bewildered when the battery dropped to 95% post 100 % recharge just after switching phone on and drained out rapidly within hours. I read somewhere that it takes a few cycles to stabilize. It was much better today and hopefully will get better over the next few cycles. Will update. I have done almost all of this:

    Nokia Lumia 525 - User Guide - Nokia Lumia 525 - Extend battery life - Nokia - Middle East and Africa

    How much battery life do you get from it and do you use it extensively ?

    This could be a deal breaker for me depending on how bad battery life is.
    01-28-2014 09:42 AM
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