07-27-2014 10:01 AM
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  1. Rob Mintzes's Avatar
    I think the aesthetic updates are beautiful, especially when transitioned across the various platforms. Unfortunately, the Samsungs and HTCs of the world will put their own UI skins over it and begin to compromise the purity of the stock Android operating system, which at its core is a wonderful platform (vulnerabilities and fragmentation aside), by virtue of one having the ability to do pretty much anything with it. When I had the Galaxy S3, I loved the freedom and automation controls that are sorely lacking on my iPhone 4S (the battery life on my GS3 was frustratingly abysmal, so I went back), but that freedom sometimes led me to cripple the device. After a while, it would freeze up for no reason and I would have to run factory restores. The manufacturers should, in my opinion, just stay with Google's stock UI and leave it up to the consumer to determine whether to install a different launcher or not. Given that LG and Samsung are putting out watches with the stock Android Wear UI, it's possible that this might start to be the case, but it's too early to tell.
    06-27-2014 08:18 AM
  2. btgusto's Avatar
    I'm getting an android. Microsoft have screwed us so many times. How can your own app suck on your own OS, It doesn't make any sense. Someone pointed out earlier that Microsoft only wants us to use it's services, not its own OS (really stupid) so I'm switching because google actually wants to be the best. Unlike Microsoft they didn't mKe an OS that they aren't even promoting properly. The Nokia x2 just confirms that Microsoft are screwing us.
    Give an example of our apps that suck on our OS
    06-27-2014 10:05 AM
  3. btgusto's Avatar
    Androids version of flat design does look nice. I do believe android is developing at a faster pace than windows in terms of functionality and abilities within the OS. I've posted this before but 8.1 from 8 seems so huge when looking at the change-log but it actually was just a baby step. A baby step in the fact that it added capabilities that were found in windows mobile and also found in other OSes. Apps are only part of the story here. Functions and the capabilities of the OS is the other part, then design.

    The mistake that I did notice with Android when watching IO is there is no vertical alignment for software and hardware. To get the newest OS you basically have to buy a new phone.
    06-27-2014 11:03 AM
  4. Vishnu Hs's Avatar
    Did anyone saw Google's new keyboard,looks like a rip off of our OS's...
    06-27-2014 11:19 AM
  5. Chregu's Avatar
    Did anyone saw Google's new keyboard,looks like a rip off of our OS's...
    Great, if it increases the quality everybody wins!

    Everybody 'copies' everybody, Microsoft does it too, and again, if it increases quality the customer wins.
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    06-27-2014 11:22 AM
  6. Visa Declined's Avatar
    Hey,how do you use both phones...i mean which app in which phone??im planning on buying an android alongside my wp so..
    I'm not sure I understand the question. I use Microsoft and Google services, but most of the games and stuff I play on my Android devices because of how many there are. If you use both Android and WP, you'll enjoy the best of both platforms and it's really nice. You'll probably get tired of everyone here at WPC bashing Android though, it gets really old. If you go to tech sites that cater to Android, you'll see that they don't even mention Windows Phone.
    Dantekai14 likes this.
    06-27-2014 12:37 PM
  7. PipoDj's Avatar
    I have to get real and say what i really feel when i watched I/O.

    Android L looks cool. the new UI and the under the hood changes made it look more attractive. I have been an android gingerbread user back in the day before i jumped to WP and that decision was the turning point in my mobile life. I love WP to a fault that i even forced my family to use WP (mom and brother) i even started influencing everyone of them to use Microsoft service even if they are using android and iOS. However i am getting intrigued by Android L and what it offers. I definitely would buy an affordable one with performance that matches L620 or L520. I hope that it won't be the Lagdroid everyone is keen to point out.

    I still love WP and won't go away from it for a very long time. But that doesn't make me discredit the goodness that android has to offer.
    06-27-2014 03:34 PM
  8. Vishnu Hs's Avatar
    I'm not sure I understand the question. I use Microsoft and Google services, but most of the games and stuff I play on my Android devices because of how many there are. If you use both Android and WP, you'll enjoy the best of both platforms and it's really nice. You'll probably get tired of everyone here at WPC bashing Android though, it gets really old. If you go to tech sites that cater to Android, you'll see that they don't even mention Windows Phone.
    Oh,im gonna order an android today!! 😍
    06-27-2014 09:47 PM
  9. aitt's Avatar
    Don't you still need a Google account to sign in with? Can one have an Android device and use only services? Nope. To use things like apps, you need store and for that you need Google account.


    Technically you can if you sideload apps out use a different market. You just don't get the full experience

    Posted via Windows Phone Central App
    06-28-2014 07:20 AM
  10. Premium1's Avatar
    I'm getting an android. Microsoft have screwed us so many times. How can your own app suck on your own OS, It doesn't make any sense. Someone pointed out earlier that Microsoft only wants us to use it's services, not its own OS (really stupid) so I'm switching because google actually wants to be the best. Unlike Microsoft they didn't mKe an OS that they aren't even promoting properly. The Nokia x2 just confirms that Microsoft are screwing us.
    Well MS does make more off android then they do on WP so not surprising they seem to not really care if their own OS takes off


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    06-28-2014 09:51 PM
  11. Dantekai14's Avatar
    It's very funny to post Android and Google related thread in WPCentral.
    Most of users are here are Google and Android hater.


    Anyway
    I think Android L is great.
    Every OS has it's advantages and disadvantages.

    WP have only two advantages over Android
    1) Security
    2) Update
    but in WP even basic apps like Xbox Music in beta and hellish laggy. Even Cortana is only available in US right now and rest of countries will get it till late 2015 and MS just now realize that they have to improve their services for rest of the world too.Which will take a long long time.

    In Android this is not case. Google services are far better and superior of non American countries compare to MS services.
    Google Now available for every country and works like a charm.
    I think Google Now will always be better than Cortana. why?
    because of time they were launched.
    Even in 2015 when MS in busy in making Cortana available everywhere. Google will not sit and do nothing. That time they will further improve GN.
    and Google services like Google search, Map etc are better than Bing and Bing map for rest of the world.
    that is why Google now has even more advantages over Cortana because if you ask nearest restaurant or a coffee shop, then we all know Google map as far more informative than Bing map.
    So, GN will pulled better result than Cortana.

    This is just an example.

    In Android L every thing is improved whether it's Chrome, GN or anything else.
    and It's worth checking out because it's a bigger update compared to last 4 Android updates.

    and one more thing
    I really want to see performance test between all three major OS Android L , WP8.1 and iOS 8.
    Jakez98 likes this.
    06-29-2014 01:31 AM
  12. Dantekai14's Avatar
    Great, if it increases the quality everybody wins!

    Everybody 'copies' everybody, Microsoft does it too, and again, if it increases quality the customer wins.
    Totally agreed.
    You can't expect every best feature in one OS.
    All OS has something or some features which they offer best compared to others.
    and
    Bring those best features in OS isn't bad thing.

    and
    yeah WP Notification is carbon copy of Samsung Galaxy phone notification.

    and if remember correctly Android is the first OS which bring centralized notification center in smartphone.
    06-29-2014 01:39 AM
  13. Sport Driver's Avatar
    yeah WP Notification is carbon copy of Samsung Galaxy phone notification.


    Are you sure is not other way around ?

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    06-29-2014 02:06 AM
  14. Dantekai14's Avatar
    It can be other way around only if somehow Samsung had saw future in 2010 that WP is going to release action center in 2014

    Anyway what makes you think that it is other way around?
    06-29-2014 02:15 AM
  15. Sport Driver's Avatar
    I thought you meant this notifications that show up when someone is calling, this is what we know under name toast notifications.
    My bad, sorry.
    06-29-2014 04:15 AM
  16. EC Translating Services's Avatar
    use Microsoft services?

    Google will know as much as you allow them to.
    I am already shifting all my platform from Google to Microsoft. Waiting for the OS and the ecosystem to become riper if Microsoft wakes up.

    I don't agree Google only knows as much as i allow them. Once you are a Chrome/Android/Gmail/(some also G+) user, Google knows basically everything about you. I am for platform fragmentation and no monopolies. Prefer smaller companies with more variety and competition and more privacy. The only way to let Google know only what you want them to know is to avoid part of their services (G+/Chrome) and only use Gmail for the things you think are worth being shared.
    I am on a totally fragmented platform and i am happier. I use different services for different things. I see improvements. Will never go with 1 single operator again except for what i need.
    07-03-2014 01:18 AM
  17. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    I am already shifting all my platform from Google to Microsoft. Waiting for the OS and the ecosystem to become riper if Microsoft wakes up.

    I don't agree Google only knows as much as i allow them. Once you are a Chrome/Android/Gmail/(some also G+) user, Google knows basically everything about you. I am for platform fragmentation and no monopolies. Prefer smaller companies with more variety and competition and more privacy. The only way to let Google know only what you want them to know is to avoid part of their services (G+/Chrome) and only use Gmail for the things you think are worth being shared.
    I am on a totally fragmented platform and i am happier. I use different services for different things. I see improvements. Will never go with 1 single operator again except for what i need.
    AFAIK the Play Store ToS recently changed in such a way, that Google can even access the data you didn't give permission for.
    07-03-2014 05:36 AM
  18. EC Translating Services's Avatar
    AFAIK the Play Store ToS recently changed in such a way, that Google can even access the data you didn't give permission for.
    I am not sure about that but i am sure they see all the traffic you do on Chrome, Gmail etc. Essentially they spy constantly and effortlessly on your private life in order to "improve customer services". I refuse to be part of that game. That's why i moved on WP, which is surely not very private either but it's a bit better. Next step if BB wakes up is going to BlackBerry.
    Silviu Bogusevschi likes this.
    07-03-2014 09:59 AM
  19. colinkiama's Avatar
    I've came back from android land and it's true, no matter how good you're specs are, no matter how recent the version of android you have, it will lag, it will freeze, it will be incosistent (maybe android L will change things). there was even a time when I was using facebook and the app froze because I scrolled too fast. don't waste your money folks, just stick with windows phone, the apps will come (that is the only thing android has over windows phone).
    07-19-2014 02:38 PM
  20. colinkiama's Avatar
    It's very funny to post Android and Google related thread in WPCentral.
    Most of users are here are Google and Android hater.


    Anyway
    I think Android L is great.
    Every OS has it's advantages and disadvantages.

    WP have only two advantages over Android
    1) Security
    2) Update
    but in WP even basic apps like Xbox Music in beta and hellish laggy. Even Cortana is only available in US right now and rest of countries will get it till late 2015 and MS just now realize that they have to improve their services for rest of the world too.Which will take a long long time.

    In Android this is not case. Google services are far better and superior of non American countries compare to MS services.
    Google Now available for every country and works like a charm.
    I think Google Now will always be better than Cortana. why?
    because of time they were launched.
    Even in 2015 when MS in busy in making Cortana available everywhere. Google will not sit and do nothing. That time they will further improve GN.
    and Google services like Google search, Map etc are better than Bing and Bing map for rest of the world.
    that is why Google now has even more advantages over Cortana because if you ask nearest restaurant or a coffee shop, then we all know Google map as far more informative than Bing map.
    So, GN will pulled better result than Cortana.

    This is just an example.

    In Android L every thing is improved whether it's Chrome, GN or anything else.
    and It's worth checking out because it's a bigger update compared to last 4 Android updates.

    and one more thing
    I really want to see performance test between all three major OS Android L , WP8.1 and iOS 8.
    haven't you read that microsoft is trying to add a localised cortana for evey country. cortana uses bing > bing is localised for countries > nearest cinema is shown on cortana for your reigon. Have faith in Windows.
    07-19-2014 02:43 PM
  21. misfitpierce's Avatar
    Well I only use Windows Phone for my main phone lines but have some android laying around for playing around with. I wouldn't say all androids lag and freeze regardless of how much I dislike the platform now. Def true that its a free for all now which messes with optimization but HTC does the best with being skinned. That said pure vanilla android runs pretty well and I can go without lag but on most phones you have to root and optimize things yourself which is the issue. Shouldn't have to do all that.
    07-19-2014 02:44 PM
  22. thatuxguy's Avatar
    The new "material" design language looks cool. And its great to see it used across web and mobile.

    Android however I'm not a fan of.
    07-19-2014 02:47 PM
  23. colinkiama's Avatar
    Well I only use Windows Phone for my main phone lines but have some android laying around for playing around with. I wouldn't say all androids lag and freeze regardless of how much I dislike the platform now. Def true that its a free for all now which messes with optimization but HTC does the best with being skinned. That said pure vanilla android runs pretty well and I can go without lag but on most phones you have to root and optimize things yourself which is the issue. Shouldn't have to do all that.
    That is exactly why I dislike android, why should you have to go spend time rooting and optimizing things when most thing should be fine out of the box and require little maintenance. For example , popular manufacturers disable the saving apps to sd card function or only let you store a bit of data. This means you have to root just so you can store apps to the sd card. On windows phone 8.1 you can store apps to the sd out of the box, just enable the setting. If the app developer doesn't want you to install to the sd for performance issues then they will disable the function just for the app. That's the way it should be, no spending time with your phone, tweaking it until you think its perfect enough but setting the phone up and getting on with things, getting on with life.
    07-19-2014 03:03 PM
  24. colinkiama's Avatar
    but i love the design of android L though. It looks clean and refreshing
    07-19-2014 03:04 PM
  25. smoledman's Avatar
    Looking forward to it on my Nexus devices.
    07-19-2014 03:07 PM
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