07-19-2015 12:52 PM
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  1. Shobin Drogan's Avatar
    Before i start, i want you to know that this isn't an advert, this isn't a hate speech because I am just as excited as any of you for Windows 10 in the next few days and i'm not switching to Android or anything.

    That said, when i saw the specs on this phone, my initial reaction was happy and hurt, all at the same time. Because MS have got some serious challenge ahead.
    The Asus Zenfone 2, is probably the most impressive phone ever made this year and the year had just begun. Just on paper alone, this phone blows my mind to a million pieces, and then the price, it is CHEAPER, than an 830, the 2GB ram model is cheaper than a 735!!

    Full HD 401ppi
    2.3Ghz processor
    2/4GB of ram
    16/32/64gb models with Full SD slot
    5.5 inch display
    3000mah battery
    Customisable back covers
    Double tap to wake, Double tap to lock
    13MP back camera
    5MP front camera
    Starting at $200 unlocked

    And the reason why i'm talking about this phone is that MS is currently working on the 1330, we expect it to be released soon, and i'm sorry for being negative but i just feel like the 1330 going to be blown away by this phone. Even the camera on the Zenfone is impressive.
    If the rumours of the 1330 are true, that it has a weak SoC400 with a 720p screen, it is absolutely destroyed by the zenfone and i am willing to bet that the 1330 is going to cost more. However, I would be really happy if MS can prove me wrong. I don't want you to think I'm being down on Microsoft, i'm not, i just really want them to amp up their game for what they are about to face.

    I think what MS could do at this point is to make a deal with Asus and make a Windows supported Zenfone 2. Otherwise, i really feel this phone is going to take a hit on Windows phone sales figures. I know Asus and MS have a great partnership, i doubt it's hard to get Windows onto the Zenfone 2.
    01-13-2015 09:36 AM
  2. Pete's Avatar
    Hardware specification don't really mean an awful lot when it comes to Windows Phone; the operating System has been engineered to give a smooth response on all supported hardware. What responds well on a 1520 will also response well on a 520.

    Android users make a big deal about hardware because Androids performance is bound to how fast the hardware is.
    01-13-2015 09:39 AM
  3. Shobin Drogan's Avatar
    Android users make a big deal about hardware because Androids performance is bound to how fast the hardware is.
    I would never ever want an Android phone and I know what you mean, but this phone makes ME want to try one, just because of how insane the specs are. Not just in Windows phone because even in the land of Android, i feel like, there is no point of getting a flagship Android phone, because of how good this phone is!
    01-13-2015 09:53 AM
  4. xandros9's Avatar
    I would never ever want an Android phone and I know what you mean, but this phone makes ME want to try one, just because of how insane the specs are. Not just in Windows phone because even in the land of Android, i feel like, there is no point of getting a flagship Android phone, because of how good this phone is!
    we can see how no specs were seemingly compromised, but what about non-paper things - housing, post-ship support, etc?
    01-13-2015 10:47 AM
  5. harharharris's Avatar
    How well does WP's performance compare to Android on similar benchmarks such as multitasking? Are there any such tests to prove this?
    01-13-2015 11:19 AM
  6. tgp's Avatar
    How well does WP's performance compare to Android on similar benchmarks such as multitasking? Are there any such tests to prove this?
    I wish somebody would take an M8 of each platform and do an exhaustive side by side comparison. For months now we've had the perfect opportunity to test this argument, and yet it's never been done that I know of.

    Sent from whatever device I happen to be using today using Tapatalk
    01-13-2015 11:23 AM
  7. Pete's Avatar
    Benchmarking isn't a realistic comparision, we know from experience that it's possible to construct OS subsystems that detect and manipulate benchmarking software ("I see you're running a bechmark app, would you like me to overclock the CPU?").

    User experience is the only true indicator.
    01-13-2015 11:30 AM
  8. tgp's Avatar
    User experience is the only true indicator.
    Exactly! That's why I wish someone would take an M8 of each platform and test them, or even use them for awhile in real life. We've been hearing for a long time that WP is very efficient. Well then, let's prove it! For the first time in history we have both platforms running natively on the exact same hardware.
    prasath1234 and ven07 like this.
    01-13-2015 12:05 PM
  9. fatclue_98's Avatar
    No matter how you slice it, it's still an Android. If anything, it'll cannibalize sales from other Android OEMs.
    01-13-2015 12:19 PM
  10. EBUK's Avatar
    5.5 inch display
    No, too big. Instantly one to ignore.

    I don't understand the return to 1980's brick phones.
    01-13-2015 04:17 PM
  11. Shobin Drogan's Avatar
    No, too big. Instantly one to ignore.
    In asia there is a huge market for phablets. 5.5 inch and 1080p is nothing less than astonishing at that price.
    01-13-2015 08:29 PM
  12. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    In asia there is a huge market for phablets. 5.5 inch and 1080p is nothing less than astonishing at that price.
    I don't think that's limited to Asia. I see a lot of Samsung Note devices here in the US.
    01-13-2015 09:42 PM
  13. link68759's Avatar
    Exactly! That's why I wish someone would take an M8 of each platform and test them, or even use them for awhile in real life. We've been hearing for a long time that WP is very efficient. Well then, let's prove it! For the first time in history we have both platforms running natively on the exact same hardware.

    Buy me an android M8 and I'll have a video finished in 7 days :)
    I actually had an android M8 and a WP M8 at the same time (tldr already bought the M8 and tried to save money buy purchasing it cheaper on Amazon, didn't realize it was Android). Returned immediately, didn't occur to me to do a side by side.

    A side by side would inevitably be imperfect, though. Because you can configure Android however you want, it is always possible to increase its efficiency- it will inevitably win under certain configurations. Comparisons against the stock ROM would be called unfair, which is true: Android has carrier and OEM bloatware WP doesn't. Any task specific benchmark will always be met with "but you didn't use this app!", for both platforms. If only one trial is conducted (as is almost always the case with such things) a one time system process eating up resources could misrepresent general performance, for either platform.

    There would have to be at least two comparison videos: WP vs stock android and WP vs generic custom ROM android.
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    01-14-2015 03:19 AM
  14. dKp1977's Avatar
    No, too big. Instantly one to ignore.

    I don't understand the return to 1980's brick phones.
    That's totally subjective. That it's too big for you doesn't mean that there aren't several millions of people out there who consider this to be the perfect size for a phone. I was skeptical about the 1520 before I actually got one. Now I wouldn't want anything smaller than 6".
    01-14-2015 06:23 AM
  15. nomanquadri's Avatar
    That's totally subjective. That it's too big for you doesn't mean that there aren't several millions of people out there who consider this to be the perfect size for a phone. I was skeptical about the 1520 before I actually got one. Now I wouldn't want anything smaller than 6".
    Totally agree. It's actually the other way around. Since I got my 1520, other smaller phones' size is a problem now. not the 1520's.
    ven07, Tom Snyder and snowmutt like this.
    01-14-2015 06:37 AM
  16. crise's Avatar
    Specs don't say ****. Welcome to Windows phone. The 830 is smoother and has a better camera and better build quality.
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    01-14-2015 06:43 AM
  17. Shobin Drogan's Avatar
    Specs don't say ****. Welcome to Windows phone. The 830 is smoother and has a better camera and better build quality.
    I love how you arrived at that conclusion when you probably never even held the phone.
    Why did you get an 830 then? May as well settle for a 520 because specs dont say sh*t, right?
    There are some things you JUST can't get around with lower specs. This phone has more internal memory, higher ppi, MUCH more ram, better ffc, it has a processor that is literally more than twice as fast as that of the 830. Android is known to bog down the overall experience but this phone is so overpowered, i'm sure even the OS wouldn't matter.
    A year ago everyone said we didn't need a quad core, a year before that everyone said we didn't need more than 1gb of ram, a year before that we said we didn't need a HD screen.
    01-14-2015 07:12 AM
  18. peachy001's Avatar
    Totally agree. It's actually the other way around. Since I got my 1520, other smaller phones' size is a problem now. not the 1520's.
    This is one reason why I am not eager to try one, fear of getting used to it. I have the same issue with the 1020. I dare not try the camera, just in case I get spoilt. Sticking with my 920 for now.
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    01-14-2015 07:13 AM
  19. dKp1977's Avatar
    This is one reason why I am not eager to try one, fear of getting used to it. I have the same issue with the 1020. I dare not try the camera, just in case I get spoilt. Sticking with my 920 for now.
    Haha.. Reasonable. But in this case you'll never want to buy anything new. No smartphone, no computer, no car, no nothing. ;)
    01-14-2015 07:32 AM
  20. kc77's Avatar
    I know everyone here knows that the specs don't always mean the phone will run better and say it's not a selling point, but it definitely is. A lot of people getting a smartphone now just buy the phone with the highest specs. It's a marketing tool.
    01-14-2015 07:39 AM
  21. dKp1977's Avatar
    I know everyone here knows that the specs don't always mean the phone will run better and say it's not a selling point, but it definitely is. A lot of people getting a smartphone now just buy the phone with the highest specs. It's a marketing tool.
    It's more than just a marketing tool. Even though specs don't matter much for WP devices - unlike Android - they do matter depending on what you're planning to do with your phone. If you want to be able to play the latest and greatest games, you're better off getting a device with at least 1GB RAM a rather powerful processor. If you're into photography, you will want to buy a device with a great camera.
    WP doesn't need high end specs in order to provide a smooth and stable experience, but that's about it.
    01-14-2015 07:54 AM
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    01-14-2015 08:09 AM
  23. Shobin Drogan's Avatar
    Here is a comparison to other android flagships...Both versions of Asus Zenfone 2 benchmarked, put up against 2014 flagships - GSMArena Blog
    Its only a hair slower than the one M8, that is incredible.
    ven07 likes this.
    01-14-2015 09:06 AM
  24. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    Those are nice specs for a budget device.

    Thankfully for us, I don't know if it's possible for WP's marketshare to decline any more than it already has
    01-14-2015 09:35 AM
  25. rollindice's Avatar
    Exactly! That's why I wish someone would take an M8 of each platform and test them, or even use them for awhile in real life. We've been hearing for a long time that WP is very efficient. Well then, let's prove it! For the first time in history we have both platforms running natively on the exact same hardware.
    Only thing comes close I remember to doing those tests were in a challenge , remember Smoked By WindowsPhone ?
    snowmutt likes this.
    01-14-2015 10:09 AM
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