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  1. nlsclint's Avatar
    I have also made the switch to android and I have it for sale right now. I want WM10 back. The UI on android just sucks its menu navigation is a nightmare. Not sure how windows ever lost he phone wars to android and IOS other then their lack of advertising and ability to keep up. they just need to make phones a priority and stomp the competition.
    10-10-2017 01:09 PM
  2. Fuzzy John's Avatar
    I have been with Windows ever since the inception of Windows CE and followed thru all its iterations.
    Two weeks ago I decided that Microsoft has let me down and switched to a Samsung Galaxy S8+. This was before Joe Belfiore made his Twitter posts.
    My transition is now almost complete. It has been rough at times and very frustrating.
    I am setup with outlook.com for Contacts, Calendars and Tasks. I have a Google account but I did not want to switch mainly since my computers are all configured for outlook.com.
    I am using Microsoft Outlook for Android mainly because I couldn't find any Calendar apps that fully support my calendars on outlook.com. They all see to want to combine my calendars into a single calendar. But even the Calendar in Microsoft Outlook lacks some features:
    • No support for "Free, Busy, Tentative, Out of Office" and so on.
    • The event reminder alerts seem to have a mind of their own. Sometimes they show, most of the time they don't. And I have yet to see the ability to snooze an alert.

    Mail is almost OK. I have turned of the Focused Inbox and I am using threaded messages. This is where things can get confusing when you have a thread with many replies.
    The built-in Samsung Contacts seems to work but it did give me a lot of aggravations before I got it to where it is now.
    For Tasks I am using Tasks & Notes for MS Exchange. This app works surprisingly well. Maybe Microsoft should learn from it. With Windows 10 Mobile I used 2Day.
    The built-in Messages app (from Samsung) seems to work OK but I found that when I attach videos to messages they are squished from 16:9 to 4:3. I switched to Android Messages which so far works OK, but at least for now Bixby only supports the Samsung Messages app.
    I feel that the Android versions of Word and Excel work somewhat better in Android than they did in Windows 10 Mobile.
    There is only one thing that I still miss from Windows Phone: Cortana reading the text messages and allowing me to reply to them over the Bluetooth radio in my car. I sorely miss this and I am still looking for alternatives.
    10-10-2017 01:19 PM
  3. Adventurer64's Avatar
    So I tried again today. Saw we got a bunch of S8 units. I pulled rank and grabbed one to swap out my crappy S6. The S8 is just as bad only with a horrid aspect ratio.

    Here it is between my 950xl and my son's V20.

    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...bebe3a7f4e.jpg
    I agree 100% on aspect ratio. I was looking at androids yesterday and all are tall and skinny. Yuck. Even the Note 8 is same width as my Idol 4S. Now I'm considering switching to Att so I can have a properly functioning elite X3. Love the aspect ratio and screen size on x3. And the boat, it seems to be worse than my previous droids, Note 4, S4, Motorola, etc.
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    10-10-2017 01:32 PM
  4. breaker119's Avatar
    I don't understand what account I will need and how my contacts will work. My google account - which I hate - has a mess of contacts b/c of their auto-add BS. My Outlook.com contacts are clean and curated. What's the approach to prevent a huge charlie foxtrot?
    10-10-2017 01:46 PM
  5. jeffgeno's Avatar
    It's sad to see I'm going to have to switch platforms. It's clear major apps will drop support at some point soon and the phone will be useless. I haven't yet found a phone or OS that will work for all my requirements, but what will get closest?

    1. Camera at least as good as a 950
    2. Camera button
    3. Expandable storage
    4. Wireless charging
    5. Sync Facebook contact photos
    6. Read and reply to texts over Bluetooth
    7. Not huge

    Seems like I can get
    1, 4, and 7 with an iPhone (maybe 6, does Siri read texts over Bluetooth?)
    2, 3 and 7 with a Sony
    1, 3, 4, and 7 with an S8
    1, 3, and 4 with a V30

    iPhones used to sync Facebook contacts, but that has been dropped with iOS 11. So 5 seems like a total dead end.

    Whatever I end up with, it's going to involve a lot of compromises.
    10-10-2017 02:05 PM
  6. Adventurer64's Avatar
    I don't understand what account I will need and how my contacts will work. My google account - which I hate - has a mess of contacts b/c of their auto-add BS. My Outlook.com contacts are clean and curated. What's the approach to prevent a huge charlie foxtrot?
    When I switched from Android to Windows 10 Mobile 8 months ago, it was fairly easy as far as contacts. I already had an outlook account and everything was synced no problems to my Idol 4S. Just like any other Windows 10 device for that matter. I gave up on Gmail years ago. I believe it will be just as easy other way around. I did sync my Gmail contacts to outlook when I made switch and don't recall that being a problem. All MS services on Android worked well for me on Note 4 8 MThs ago. I'm assuming its even better now.
    10-10-2017 02:25 PM
  7. ThxMAD's Avatar
    I always have been a Windows Phone guy, made my girlfriend get one, my parents as well. I have a Hotmail account, no Gmail account (my Google account is my Hotmail email). I have an Office 365 subscription, use Onedrive and Groove.

    I recently changed my 950XL to an S8, because I didn't see any immediate future for WP. That was a couple of weeks before Joe Belfiore announced WP was dead. Here are my conclusions:

    Positives
    • Lots of apps/apps update: The biggest positive for me. I now have access to many more apps that I use daily. For the apps that I already had on WP, they're the same or better on Android. Just the loading time of the Facebook and Messenger apps are much faster. And they're updated more frequently as well.
    • Chrome and Google search integration: On my PC, I was already using Chrome and Google as my search engine, so not having to use Edge and Bing is a plus for me.
    • Stability: My 950XL used to crash constantly, at least 2 to 3 times a day. I would take it out of my pocket to find it had turned off by itself. And don't tell me the battery was the problem, I tried 3 different ones with the same result. Apps used to crash frequently as well. How nice to now be able to use my phone normally!

    Equivalent
    • Hardware quality: I miss the good old Nokia hardware running Windows, but I must say that the S8 is nice in hand. I like the weight and the overall build quality. I also like the quality of the diplay.
    • Camera: I certainly haven't played with the S8 camera as much as I have with my past 1020 and 950XL, but I must say that the S8 does take great pictures.
    • Office integration
    • Expandable storage

    Negatives
    • Integration of Groove/Onedrive/SD Card: That's probably my biggest problem with my current phone is that my entire music collection is on Onedrive and I used to download my music offline in Groove so I don't use all of my data while listening to music. Now, I can still download my music for offline use, but to store my music on my SD, I would have to install the app on my SD. However, you can't install Groove on the SD (yet). I hope that comes in a future update.
    • No physical camera button: I wish I could just remap the Bixby button to the camera via the settings , but Samsung doesn't allow it so you have to use a 3rd party app which works so-so. Also, who cares about Bixby?
    • No live tiles: I really don't like widgets compared to the live tiles. I can't really put my finger on why, but I think it's because of how well the information was conveyed through the live tiles. I also think the live tiles integrated much better with each other compared to the widgets.
    • No Glance: Glance is better than the always on display. I liked having a full size picture always on with the clock and notifications but the closest I can get to this with the always on display is a mini picture with the clock and notifications.
    • Misc.: I feel like I see more ads than before, no removable battery, no bluetooth text message reading in my car

    Overall, I'm pleased with the change. I think the positives overweigh the negatives. However, I was quite disappointed when Joe's tweets came out. I was secretly hoping that I would be able to change my S8 for a WP in 2 or 3 years.

    Conclusion; I think the switch is fairly smooth for a Windows Phone user.
    10-10-2017 03:50 PM
  8. Mr-Black's Avatar
    Like many others here, it looks like I will have to consider switching to Android soon.

    Has anyone worked out how to transfer Whatsapp chats from Windows phone to Android or even iOS for that matter.

    A Google search comes up with a few possibilities but nothing certain about Windows Phone > Android
    10-10-2017 04:04 PM
  9. ThxMAD's Avatar
    5. Sync Facebook contact photos
    6. Read and reply to texts over Bluetooth
    7. Not huge

    Seems like I can get
    1, 4, and 7 with an iPhone (maybe 6, does Siri read texts over Bluetooth?)
    2, 3 and 7 with a Sony
    1, 3, 4, and 7 with an S8
    1, 3, and 4 with a V30
    Just FYI, I know it's a 3rd party app, but you can use the Sync.Me app on Android to sync Facebook contact pictures.
    10-10-2017 04:10 PM
  10. ThxMAD's Avatar
    Has anyone worked out how to transfer Whatsapp chats from Windows phone to Android or even iOS for that matter.
    I didn't have any problem with Whatsapp on Android. I simply downloaded the app and entered my phone number as you normally do when you log in and it transferred my chat windows automatically.
    Last edited by ThxMAD; 10-10-2017 at 04:22 PM. Reason: Specified "on Android" since th eposter asked about both Android and iOS
    10-10-2017 04:12 PM
  11. Blue Steel's Avatar
    A year ago I was forced to move to either iOS or Android because of the App gap. At the time, the Galaxy S7 was a premium option and seemed to offer a lot of flexibility. The phones specs were great and the hardware has truly been fantastic. However, that is where the fun stops. The actually operating system is simply painful. Sometimes I have to tap the screen two or three times before I can make a simple phone call. I've lost contact information a number of times because I tried to use Outlook as my default mail app. It's user interface is clunky to use and has no consistency. It lacks a ton of features I grew to love on WM10. Simple stuff like Cortana reading my texts to me while in the car and allowing me to respond by voice. The social media integration with my contacts. The beautiful live tiles that told me everything I needed to know without scrolling through pages of icons. The Glance screen that showed me my important information without having to turn the phone on. I could go on and on.

    I had hoped, since MS was supporting iOS and Android better than their own mobile OS, that I would end up using all of their apps and I'd be content with Android. After a year, the only MS app I use is Outlook. I've uninstalled everything else and Outlook is next. In fact, at this point, I no longer have interest in supporting MS on any level. A year ago I had an HP touch screen PC in my kitchen, two small Samsung tablets running Win 10, a Surface Pro 3, two Xbox Ones, two MS Bands, Xbox Live and Groove memberships, and 3 Windows phones.

    One by one Microsoft has dismantled what was becoming an incredible echo system. Yes, Microsoft's reputation has been tarnished for years, so many people were hesitant to invest. I thought with the Surface division, MS was finally turning the ship around. Clearly, they now realize they are no longer a player in the consumer market and have decided to throw in the towel. MS has ruined their own reputation by constantly pulling the rug from under us. I've had enough.
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    10-10-2017 09:22 PM
  12. Adventurer64's Avatar
    I have also made the switch to android and I have it for sale right now. I want WM10 back. The UI on android just sucks its menu navigation is a nightmare. Not sure how windows ever lost he phone wars to android and IOS other then their lack of advertising and ability to keep up. they just need to make phones a priority and stomp the competition.
    I feel your pain. I struggled with android issues and bloat for years and finally switched from Sprint to TMO and was able to purchase an Idol 4S on sale. I looked at androids on Monday and was not impressed, so I'm in no hurry to leave. When did the aspect ratio for phablets change, I hate tall and skinny. Is that aspect ratio better for social media or something? My United app still works, Fitbit Ionic will eventually replace my Band 2 and pinning mobile websites makes up for the app gap. Android is still loaded with bloat and BS. Yuck.
    Blue Steel likes this.
    10-10-2017 09:28 PM
  13. Mr-Black's Avatar
    Really?! I didn't think this was the way it worked.

    Even according to Whatsapp this is not possible..... Account info transfers, but not messages.

    Which is why I was wondering if there is a 3rd party alternative available to do this.

    Changing your phone

    Different types of phone

    If you are moving from one type of phone to another, such as from an iPhone to an Android, and preserving your number, you will keep your account info. This information is tied to the phone number. Simply download WhatsApp on the new phone and verify your number.

    Note: You cannot migrate your messages across different types of phone.
    10-10-2017 09:48 PM
  14. tre10's Avatar
    Download and install Computer Launcher, it's like a full Windows desktop on your Android phone. With all kinds of amazing good stuff.
    This right here. It looks good indeed.
    10-10-2017 10:55 PM
  15. TennisGuy45's Avatar
    I'm using a GS8+, switched over about 2 months ago.

    So far I'm loving it. Enjoy having access to so many apps I was missing on Windows.

    The hardware is beautiful, fast, and leagues higher quality than my 950xl.

    I miss the live tiles, lock screen notificaitons, and a few other things from my Windows phone.

    Still learning and tinkering with Android. The customization capabilities are endless.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    10-11-2017 09:16 AM
  16. RLB88's Avatar
    I recently made the switch from a 950xl to a Moto Z2 Force. The transition was smoother than I expected, thanks to the terrific Moto hardware and Launcher 10 downloaded from the Play Store. With some minor tweaking, the live tile option, and a clock/weather widget, Launcher 10 looks and feels extremely close to the Windows 10 Mobile experience. I also immediately installed the Microsoft App, which is a package of the entire suite of MS apps. I miss being able to pin documents and other objects to the Launcher 10 home screen, but there is probably an Android app for that.
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    10-11-2017 12:07 PM
  17. Maccabeus's Avatar
    How are all of you getting your Outlook.com contacts into the Contacts App on Android? (Or are you?)

    I've been on a 950 and am attempting to set up a new Moto G5S Plus.

    I've installed the Outlook App and within that app, all my emails and contacts and calendar info are there.

    However, there's two problems:

    1. Messages and Phone don't recognize those lists in Outlook. I'm assuming they only read the native Contacts App. Is there a way to sync Contacts with my Microsoft Account? (Rather than just import a static list that will soon be out of date).

    Initiating a call or SMS through the Outlook App is a headache. Way too many steps (open app. Select contact list. Either tap search and type out a name or scroll, scroll, scroll forever through the list. Select person. Select phone number. Answer pop-up about call vs. message. Wait for dialer to open. Press dial button. Take a nap from exhaustion.) this leads to the other issue:

    2. Am I missing a feature in Outlook Contacts (and in the default Contacts, too, as far as I can see) that lets me jump ahead to a particular letter in the alphabet? With Windows, I just tap the letter A and it takes me to the alphabet matrix to jump to any letter. This doesn't appear possible on my G5S+. ?????

    Any help is appreciated!!
    10-11-2017 04:05 PM
  18. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    How are all of you getting your Outlook.com contacts into the Contacts App on Android? (Or are you?)

    I've been on a 950 and am attempting to set up a new Moto G5S Plus.

    I've installed the Outlook App and within that app, all my emails and contacts and calendar info are there.

    However, there's two problems:

    1. Messages and Phone don't recognize those lists in Outlook. I'm assuming they only read the native Contacts App. Is there a way to sync Contacts with my Microsoft Account? (Rather than just import a static list that will soon be out of date).

    Initiating a call or SMS through the Outlook App is a headache. Way too many steps (open app. Select contact list. Either tap search and type out a name or scroll, scroll, scroll forever through the list. Select person. Select phone number. Answer pop-up about call vs. message. Wait for dialer to open. Press dial button. Take a nap from exhaustion.) this leads to the other issue:

    2. Am I missing a feature in Outlook Contacts (and in the default Contacts, too, as far as I can see) that lets me jump ahead to a particular letter in the alphabet? With Windows, I just tap the letter A and it takes me to the alphabet matrix to jump to any letter. This doesn't appear possible on my G5S+. ?????

    Any help is appreciated!!
    When I switched to Android over 2 years ago, I imported my Outlook contacts into my Gmail account. Then I stopped using Outlook for contacts and just use Gmail. Any new contacts get saved in my Gmail account. https://support.google.com/mail/answ..._topic=7280209
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    10-11-2017 04:24 PM
  19. Maccabeus's Avatar
    When I switched to Android over 2 years ago, I imported my Outlook contacts into my Gmail account. Then I stopped using Outlook for contacts and just use Gmail. Any new contacts get saved in my Gmail account. https://support.google.com/mail/answ..._topic=7280209
    That's what I'm hesitant to do. I'm fairly invested in Windows on PC with Edge, Outlook, Calendar, etc.

    After posting the comment above, I found some other threads with folks mentioned an app called Nine that supposedly syncs contacts well.

    I have also read that Edge is coming to Android this month.

    Maybe between the two, I can get things working more smoothly. ???
    10-11-2017 05:11 PM
  20. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    That's what I'm hesitant to do. I'm fairly invested in Windows on PC with Edge, Outlook, Calendar, etc.

    After posting the comment above, I found some other threads with folks mentioned an app called Nine that supposedly syncs contacts well.

    I have also read that Edge is coming to Android this month.

    Maybe between the two, I can get things working more smoothly. ???
    I felt the same way initially, but I've never used Edge. Since Chrome is my default desktop browser (and I use desktop Linux as well as desktop Windows), I found it easier to use Google's apps and services in lieu of Microsoft's.
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    10-11-2017 05:19 PM
  21. sp4rt4n i17's Avatar
    Just Like to drop something here, as I'm reading that you all are using the Outlook app.

    I switched some years ago and wasn't very satisfied with the Outlook app... Instead you all could use the native method of syncing your MS account.

    Go to Settings>Accounts>new/add>Exchange>type your Outlook Mail address and pw, tap "setup manually"(or whatever it's called)>make sure server address is "m.outlook.com", check settings and make sure mail/contact/calender sync is enabled.
    You will get your mails in Gmail or whatever your default mail app is.
    MS will show you a notification in mail app that you should use Outlook app...read it carefully ..at the bottom is the Link/button to sync anyway and "discard" this "recommendation".

    edit: I'm not sure if the Exchange option is always there in some heavily customized Android versions like Huawei's EMUI or Samsung's TW.

    edit2: in case of missing Exchange option, you could try to install Exchange services from Play Store or apkmirror
    Last edited by sp4rt4n i17; 10-11-2017 at 06:32 PM.
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    10-11-2017 06:07 PM
  22. Nate W's Avatar
    Lol edge sucked on their own operating system so why would it work well on Android? Edge is the main reason I left. Horrid browser and hardly ever worked. I am much happier with Android because I have a phone that actually works...

    Switched to a Mate 9
    Edge has much improved through this last update. I am using a Lumia ICON on VZ and Edge works real well now. I was in the same boat as you and feel Edge is one of the sore areas for Windows 10 Mobile. But some of their recent code they revamped has it whirling through pages now, and it scales every time the way it should since I updated to the build 10.0.15063.674. Could just be me and my device, but I have a change of heart about Microsoft Edge on mobile for now.
    10-12-2017 12:33 AM
  23. Nate W's Avatar
    The gmail account really can be used for just syncing your play store apps and doing your backups if you use Googles method for backing up. The email from outlook is best synced using an Exchange client of some type like Nine or Blue Mail work best for me. If you never want to see gmail mail come in, just disable the app in the Setting/Apps section. I do this often since I have my gmail account forwading mail to my outlook. I use primarly my outlook address but have not migrated everything off gmail yet. I agree with others in that the Oulook app for android is not quite there or up to par. To me it is steep let down from the Outlook app on Windows 10 Mobile. Last time I used it my corporate sync would not work because it was using a cloud sync first for push notifications and our active sync detected that. Last time I used it too it could not sync contacts directly. Mail formatting for signatures and headers was not like the Outlook we know. However things may have changed since I last used it as I just use the two apps mentioned above when I use android.
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    10-12-2017 12:41 AM
  24. TuanLVT's Avatar
    Hey guys!
    if u want to transfer ur SMS and MMS messages into ur android devices then watch this!
    10-12-2017 02:13 PM
  25. Maccabeus's Avatar
    I felt the same way initially, but I've never used Edge. Since Chrome is my default desktop browser (and I use desktop Linux as well as desktop Windows), I found it easier to use Google's apps and services in lieu of Microsoft's.
    After posting and reading your replies, further reading through other posts here turned up a variety of discussions on this. Thanks for your actual reply even if you said it elsewhere already.

    Reading those various threads confirmed the value of the Nine - Email & Calendar app.

    With a 2 week free trial, I gave it a shot. Less than 10 seconds after installing it, I had full access to my Outlook contacts via my native Android dialer, Messages app, etc. And, with a slightly better UI than the Outlook for Android app (at least IMO). My initial reaction is very favorable!

    Everything is working well within the phone and syncing fine from phone to PC. I'm waiting to see a PC side contacts addition be updated on the phone. Not sure why that hasn't appeared as quickly as the other way around.

    Assuming that gets resolved, Nine appears to be a great solution for those invested in Outlook, even at the $15 price point.
    Laura Knotek, Nate W and libra89 like this.
    10-12-2017 05:12 PM
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