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  1. Mark Kaplan's Avatar
    Hard to believe people use that many functions while driving, but okay
    It really all comes down to what your requirements are. I am in IT and am always connected. I rely heavily on texts and alerts. When driving, in order to stay safe, I dont want to have to interact with the screen at all. I want to use voice commands for everything. Play this song or artist or playlist. Read me my email. Incoming texts are read to me and I can reply to them. I can say call (name) and the call is made. All with keeping my eyes on the road at all times. This is what Cortana on W10M gave me. This is not what Cortana (or any other app) on Android does.
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    10-19-2017 10:06 PM
  2. Wolfjt's Avatar
    It really all comes down to what your requirements are. I am in IT and am always connected. I rely heavily on texts and alerts. When driving, in order to stay safe, I dont want to have to interact with the screen at all. I want to use voice commands for everything. Play this song or artist or playlist. Read me my email. Incoming texts are read to me and I can reply to them. I can say call (name) and the call is made. All with keeping my eyes on the road at all times. This is what Cortana on W10M gave me. This is not what Cortana (or any other app) on Android does.
    It does come down to personal use for sure. But, everyone just has to move on. Win mobile is dead and people are going to have to get used to what's out there. I loved using voice texting when I had Win phone. I don't miss it one bit in the past couple years I've been on Android.
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    10-19-2017 10:17 PM
  3. Mark Kaplan's Avatar
    It does come down to personal use for sure. But, everyone just has to move on. Win mobile is dead and people are going to have to get used to what's out there. I loved using voice texting when I had Win phone. I don't miss it one bit in the past couple years I've been on Android.
    Well, let's be clear, it's not dead. The current iteration will see bug fixes and be fully supported for quite some time. I think for you and a lot of users that did not rely on these features, the switch is not as painful and I get that. Just understand that for some, losing that basic functionality is quite a big deal. Enough to bring me back tp W10M until it can be replicated elsewhere.
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    10-19-2017 10:28 PM
  4. JeevanP's Avatar
    Do you really use voice commands for all of that? I find tapping on an app just as easy, if not easier
    Maybe but nothing beats the convince of talking to your phone to complete a task is simply freaking awesome.

    Sent from my Mi A1 using Windows Central Forums mobile app
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    10-19-2017 11:30 PM
  5. DallinCrump's Avatar
    It does come down to personal use for sure. But, everyone just has to move on. Win mobile is dead and people are going to have to get used to what's out there. I loved using voice texting when I had Win phone. I don't miss it one bit in the past couple years I've been on Android.
    No, everyone does not have to move on. Not yet, anyway. If you have to move on, go for it. But don't project your own situation onto everyone else.

    I don't currently own a W10M device (though I have in the past), but I'm actually considering getting one now because they are inexpensive, will continue to be supported with security patches and bug fixes through 2019, and do have some unique features that no other platform has yet.
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    10-20-2017 08:30 AM
  6. nwnjjim's Avatar
    I am very happy with my 950 and my wife refuses to give up her 1020. They fit our needs, and that is what's important. We are in our 60's and don't do the social media stuff. We are waiting until the other os's give us what we now enjoy with WM10/8.1. I may have to replace her battery and/or load WM10 on her 1020, but that's fine. Don't understand the rush to move to Android or Apple or the pressure to make a decision now between the two. Everyone is different of course and has their own needs and view of this situation, but we will change when we have to, and change to the os that fits our needs at that time. We also rely heavily on our cameras, that's a primary decision point for us. I don't see anything yet that makes me want to give up the cameras we have now. Not the V30, S8, or new apples.
    10-20-2017 09:48 AM
  7. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Hard to believe people use that many functions while driving, but okay
    I see it out on the road every day. People determined and actively trying to cause property damage, injury and loss of life because they can't stop touching their phones. And I'm not shy about calling people out on it either.

    It only takes a couple of seconds distraction to not see conditions and ram your multi-ton vehicle into something you shouldn't. And all too often there is a living being at the receiving end. You do the physics: 4000 lbs @ 35 mph vs a pedestrian.

    People that trivialize the problem and pretend they are in control of their driving when they are really doing everything except driving gets me hopping mad.

    And attempting to excuse it is worse.

    The time it takes you to look at a notification is enough time to kill someone. And people who can't stop looking at their phones repeat this lapse over and over, day in and day out. You do the statistical analysis: # of times reckless behavior is engaged in until tragedy occurs.

    It's an accident waiting to happen. You'll never convince me otherwise.
    10-20-2017 11:07 AM
  8. beman39's Avatar
    everyone just has to move on. Win mobile is dead and people are going to have to get used to what's out there. I loved using voice texting when I had Win phone. I don't miss it one bit in the past couple years I've been on Android.
    its post like this that make me roll my eyes! LOL obviously you really DIDN'T take advantage of Cortana and other great things WM had to offer, I'm in the same boat of usage as mark Kaplan and whenever I drive not only do I use voice commands for everything AND I stream my music through my car radio using Groove which works on my car speakers but I have it set so my txt and calls go through my Bluetooth ear piece... I can't do that on android using my LG G6... everything gets sent to either my BT headset or through the speakers on my radio... haven't been able to do my set-up like on my X3
    10-20-2017 11:07 AM
  9. Wolfjt's Avatar
    its post like this that make me roll my eyes! LOL obviously you really DIDN'T take advantage of Cortana and other great things WM had to offer, I'm in the same boat of usage as mark Kaplan and whenever I drive not only do I use voice commands for everything AND I stream my music through my car radio using Groove which works on my car speakers but I have it set so my txt and calls go through my Bluetooth ear piece... I can't do that on android using my LG G6... everything gets sent to either my BT headset or through the speakers on my radio... haven't been able to do my set-up like on my X3
    Sorry, but I took full advantage of Cortana and know what it's all about. But instead of hanging onto a dead platform (and yes it is dead) you just have to move on. Everyone is intiteled to not move on and complain that nothing is working anymore, or live in the past and complain that today isn't like it yesterday. But it's also people's porogitive to suggest other things. I'm just trying to say that you won't miss Cortana as much as you think you will. You will find a way to adjust. It's just tech for crying out loud. :)
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    10-20-2017 02:05 PM
  10. Wolfjt's Avatar
    I see it out on the road every day. People determined and actively trying to cause property damage, injury and loss of life because they can't stop touching their phones. And I'm not shy about calling people out on it either.

    It only takes a couple of seconds distraction to not see conditions and ram your multi-ton vehicle into something you shouldn't. And all too often there is a living being at the receiving end. You do the physics: 4000 lbs @ 35 mph vs a pedestrian.

    People that trivialize the problem and pretend they are in control of their driving when they are really doing everything except driving gets me hopping mad.

    And attempting to excuse it is worse.

    The time it takes you to look at a notification is enough time to kill someone. And people who can't stop looking at their phones repeat this lapse over and over, day in and day out. You do the statistical analysis: # of times reckless behavior is engaged in until tragedy occurs.

    It's an accident waiting to happen. You'll never convince me otherwise.
    I agree with you. That is why I don't reply to text or anything while I'm driving. There is no text that is so important that needs to be replied to right away.
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    10-20-2017 02:07 PM
  11. libra89's Avatar
    Well, let's be clear, it's not dead. The current iteration will see bug fixes and be fully supported for quite some time. I think for you and a lot of users that did not rely on these features, the switch is not as painful and I get that. Just understand that for some, losing that basic functionality is quite a big deal. Enough to bring me back tp W10M until it can be replicated elsewhere.
    Based on your very specific usage, which I understand, why not just keep the Android for the app you need and use W10M as your main phone to do a hotspot for times when you need that app when out and about? People are saying that it is dead and I don't know, support until 2019 is longer than a number of Android phones have it for. No features is a bummer for sure but fixes and security is pretty awesome.
    10-20-2017 02:12 PM
  12. RumoredNow's Avatar
    I agree with you. That is why I don't reply to text or anything while I'm driving. There is no text that is so important that needs to be replied to right away.
    O... K...

    Do you really use voice commands for all of that? I find tapping on an app just as easy, if not easier
    But you admit to tap taping apps and from the context of the conversation it implies while driving.

    The OP is espousing Voice Command while in the car and you seem to be saying it isn't necessary.

    I'd say there is absolutely nothing on the phone you need to touch while driving and any touch takes your focus off the road.


    I'll let you have the final word. I'm out.
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    10-20-2017 02:37 PM
  13. Wolfjt's Avatar
    O... K...



    But you admit to tap taping apps and from the context of the conversation it implies while driving.

    The OP is espousing Voice Command while in the car and you seem to be saying it isn't necessary.

    I'd say there is absolutely nothing on the phone you need to touch while driving and any touch takes your focus off the road.


    I'll let you have the final word. I'm out.
    My comment wasn't meant for driving. So, it is what it is. I'm out as well.
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    10-20-2017 03:17 PM
  14. Mark Kaplan's Avatar
    Sorry, but I took full advantage of Cortana and know what it's all about. But instead of hanging onto a dead platform (and yes it is dead) you just have to move on. Everyone is intiteled to not move on and complain that nothing is working anymore, or live in the past and complain that today isn't like it yesterday. But it's also people's porogitive to suggest other things. I'm just trying to say that you won't miss Cortana as much as you think you will. You will find a way to adjust. It's just tech for crying out loud. :)
    I have to ask then why are you here in a W10M forum? Is it just to tell all of us its dead and move on? Is that your mission? The platform, as long as its supported is not dead and the people that use it will continue to use it because there isnt anything else out there that can compare. So, I'm glad you have moved on, you should try Android Central. You will have better luck over there. Have a nice Cortana day!
    10-20-2017 04:13 PM
  15. Mark Kaplan's Avatar
    Based on your very specific usage, which I understand, why not just keep the Android for the app you need and use W10M as your main phone to do a hotspot for times when you need that app when out and about? People are saying that it is dead and I don't know, support until 2019 is longer than a number of Android phones have it for. No features is a bummer for sure but fixes and security is pretty awesome.
    That's exactly what I've done. A pretty expensive way to use an app but that's the way it goes. I am much happier back on W10M.
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    10-20-2017 04:15 PM
  16. libra89's Avatar
    That's exactly what I've done. A pretty expensive way to use an app but that's the way it goes. I am much happier back on W10M.
    That's cool. Is it possible to get rid of that phone and buy a cheaper one? That might hurt less. The Moto G series or even the E ones(came out this year) is pretty solid.

    Of course you don't have to, it's just an idea.
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    10-20-2017 04:26 PM
  17. Wolfjt's Avatar
    I have to ask then why are you here in a W10M forum? Is it just to tell all of us its dead and move on? Is that your mission? The platform, as long as its supported is not dead and the people that use it will continue to use it because there isnt anything else out there that can compare. So, I'm glad you have moved on, you should try Android Central. You will have better luck over there. Have a nice Cortana day!
    Wow, so if someone has a different opinion that person shouldn't be in the forum uh? I'm sorry but I thought this was a tech forum and we are free to express our opinions. How foolish of me. If a consumer OS is not being developed and is not moving forward and does not have third party support, any objective person would say it's dead. Or how about this, a person who's company was developing a Win 10 mobile device before the announcement and has now stopped because there is no future, that same objective person will call that dead too. Have a good day
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    10-20-2017 04:38 PM
  18. DallinCrump's Avatar
    Wow, so if someone has a different opinion that person shouldn't be in the forum uh? I'm sorry but I thought this was a tech forum and we are free to express our opinions. How foolish of me. If a consumer OS is not being developed and is not moving forward and does not have third party support, any objective person would say it's dead. Or how about this, a person who's company was developing a Win 10 mobile device before the announcement and has now stopped because there is no future, that same objective person will call that dead too. Have a good day
    The phones haven't just stopped working.
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    10-20-2017 05:25 PM
  19. DallinCrump's Avatar
    Wow, so if someone has a different opinion that person shouldn't be in the forum uh? I'm sorry but I thought this was a tech forum and we are free to express our opinions. How foolish of me. If a consumer OS is not being developed and is not moving forward and does not have third party support, any objective person would say it's dead. Or how about this, a person who's company was developing a Win 10 mobile device before the announcement and has now stopped because there is no future, that same objective person will call that dead too. Have a good day
    The phones haven't just stopped working.
    10-20-2017 05:25 PM
  20. Mark Kaplan's Avatar
    That's cool. Is it possible to get rid of that phone and buy a cheaper one? That might hurt less. The Moto G series or even the E ones(came out this year) is pretty solid.

    Of course you don't have to, it's just an idea.
    My wife is happy. I'm giving her the S8 Plus and taking her S7 for the app. :)
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    10-20-2017 05:33 PM
  21. Mark Kaplan's Avatar
    The phones haven't just stopped working.
    Dead: deprived of life :no longer alive
    Yep, my phone still works! :)
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    10-20-2017 05:36 PM
  22. Husky44's Avatar
    Hard to believe people use that many functions while driving, but okay
    Here in the PNW, everybody uses lots of phone functions while driving, as is apparent on I5 in/around Seattle. It's easy to spot the Android users, they're the ones who don't go when the light turns green, or continue driving 40 in the interstate even when the traffic in front of them clears--they're looking at their screens tapping away. I too use voice commands a lot, and Cortana is smart enough to sort things to the right app, execute the commands, etc.
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    10-20-2017 10:18 PM
  23. Kirstein Gourlay's Avatar
    Hence my decision to go Pixel 2 XL for my Android adventure.
    I concur. I am using a cheap Chinese phone until my contract is up and I can get a Pixel 2XL. The benefit is being as close to stock as possible. Only the apps I want are on my phone and I have put on Action Launcher. I went to iOS when my 640XL packed up but it is so boring to use. Android versions of apps do more and work better. I do miss Cortana reading my text messages to me and driving mode. There was a lot to love about Win Phone 8.1 that just got lost in W10M imho especially the metro apps.
    10-21-2017 01:20 PM
  24. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    Thank you @Mark Kaplan for summing up nicely why I also do not want to move to Android. Thanks for sharing your experience. As @RumoredNow has said, for Android phones, Samsung is not always the best choice (I had a Note 4 and didn't like it). Maybe the Nokia Android phones would have been better? Either way, hope you manage to settle into Android, otherwise, you are very welcome back as a WP user.
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    10-22-2017 09:55 AM
  25. Bigsteelguy's Avatar
    I understand the feeling, but Android is ok to me. I carry both a Lumia 950XL and an LGV20. I would recommend Launcher 10 on Android and get the paid version with live tiles, and you will get some of the features from Windows phone. You can pin any apps to the home screen. It's really a nice launcher.
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    10-22-2017 11:37 AM
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