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  1. dlalonde's Avatar
    Which services are you using now? Have you stuck with Microsoft or did you move to Google? A bit of both?

    I keep switching. I miss Microsoft but their apps are not always as good on Android which I think is normal given Google owns the OS.

    So what are you guys using?
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    03-12-2019 01:18 PM
  2. Guytronic's Avatar
    I left Windows behind mostly.
    Still keeping 1note and 1drive around.
    Hardly use them these days.
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    03-12-2019 02:33 PM
  3. dlalonde's Avatar
    I left Windows behind mostly.
    Still keeping 1note and 1drive around.
    Hardly use them these days.
    Windows? As in on PC as well?

    So you're using Gmail, Google Drive, Google Docs and so on?
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    03-12-2019 05:08 PM
  4. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Depends on the platform. As the OP mentioned, MS apps don’t always work as well on other platforms and I go straight to Outlook. Whether it’s Android or iOS, the app blows chunks. I mean, the calendar still doesn’t sync with the default calendar app and that’s just crazy. Nine works fairly well and is as feature-rich as Outlook on Windows but push services have always lagged behind. OneDrive, Word, Excel and Powerpoint are as good as it gets so they’re my main apps regardless of platform.

    On Android I use the BlackBerry Hub and the BlackBerry keyboard without hesitation. The Hub allows me to pin separate accounts to my home screen to let me know which account is receiving an email like I did on Windows Mobile. On iOS, the pickins are slim to nonexistent.
    03-12-2019 05:14 PM
  5. chanchan05's Avatar
    Depends on the platform. As the OP mentioned, MS apps don’t always work as well on other platforms and I go straight to Outlook. Whether it’s Android or iOS, the app blows chunks. I mean, the calendar still doesn’t sync with the default calendar app and that’s just crazy. Nine works fairly well and is as feature-rich as Outlook on Windows but push services have always lagged behind. OneDrive, Word, Excel and Powerpoint are as good as it gets so they’re my main apps regardless of platform.

    On Android I use the BlackBerry Hub and the BlackBerry keyboard without hesitation. The Hub allows me to pin separate accounts to my home screen to let me know which account is receiving an email like I did on Windows Mobile. On iOS, the pickins are slim to nonexistent.
    What phone are you on? Outlook Calendar syncs fine on the Samsung default calendar. It even shows the Microsoft To-Do tasks.
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    03-12-2019 07:40 PM
  6. fatclue_98's Avatar
    What phone are you on? Outlook Calendar syncs fine on the Samsung default calendar. It even shows the Microsoft To-Do tasks.
    Unless they updated the app today, Outlook for Android doesn’t sync with any built in calendar. Galaxy S8+, Note 8, Pixel XL, Nexus 6 and Moto Z3 Play - none of them do it. You’ll get calendar notifications but it’s from the calendar feature within the Outlook app.
    03-12-2019 10:33 PM
  7. libra89's Avatar
    Depends on the platform. As the OP mentioned, MS apps don’t always work as well on other platforms and I go straight to Outlook. Whether it’s Android or iOS, the app blows chunks. I mean, the calendar still doesn’t sync with the default calendar app and that’s just crazy. Nine works fairly well and is as feature-rich as Outlook on Windows but push services have always lagged behind. OneDrive, Word, Excel and Powerpoint are as good as it gets so they’re my main apps regardless of platform.

    On Android I use the BlackBerry Hub and the BlackBerry keyboard without hesitation. The Hub allows me to pin separate accounts to my home screen to let me know which account is receiving an email like I did on Windows Mobile. On iOS, the pickins are slim to nonexistent.
    +1 for Nine and OneDrive. I also use OneNote just for the occasional quick note.

    I don't have any interest in exporting my contacts to Gmail.
    03-12-2019 10:36 PM
  8. chanchan05's Avatar
    Unless they updated the app today, Outlook for Android doesn’t sync with any built in calendar. Galaxy S8+, Note 8, Pixel XL, Nexus 6 and Moto Z3 Play - none of them do it. You’ll get calendar notifications but it’s from the calendar feature within the Outlook app.
    I've been syncing my Outlook.com Calendar to my Samsungs since the Note II and with my S7 Edge and now my S9 with no problem. But I don't even have the Outlook app. I sync it directly through Exchange.

    This is great because this lets my Microsoft To-Do show up on the always on display too.

    Here's a screenshot from my S9
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    03-12-2019 10:39 PM
  9. dlalonde's Avatar
    I've been syncing my Outlook.com Calendar to my Samsungs since the Note II and with my S7 Edge and now my S9 with no problem. But I don't even have the Outlook app. I sync it directly through Exchange.

    This is great because this lets my Microsoft To-Do show up on the always on display too.

    Here's a screenshot from my S9
    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...af5fd4141f.jpg
    I didn't know about the tasks in the Samsung calendar! I'm definitely going to go check that out!
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    03-13-2019 05:48 AM
  10. dlalonde's Avatar
    I have not use any of them
    Well that was useful, thanks for playing!
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    03-13-2019 05:49 AM
  11. chanchan05's Avatar
    I didn't know about the tasks in the Samsung calendar! I'm definitely going to go check that out!
    Yeah. All you have to do is go to settings>accounts and backup>accounts>add acount>microsoft activesync. Add your outlook account and boom your emails, calendars, contacts, and tasks show up on the relevant Samsung apps.
    No need for the Outlook app at all.
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    03-13-2019 05:52 AM
  12. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Yeah. All you have to do is go to settings>accounts and backup>accounts>add acount>microsoft activesync. Add your outlook account and boom your emails, calendars, contacts, and tasks show up on the relevant Samsung apps.
    No need for the Outlook app at all.
    You came very close to making me think I was crazy. You should’ve mentioned you didn’t have the Outlook app. Samsung and Sony have good native email clients but if you have a Nokia, Pixel or any vanilla Android phone you only get Gmail. Even though it supports Exchange it’s a limited experience on Gmail which forces you to get Outlook or Nine.

    As I mentioned before, Outlook for Android does not populate your built in Calendar.
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    03-13-2019 06:50 AM
  13. chanchan05's Avatar
    You came very close to making me think I was crazy. You should’ve mentioned you didn’t have the Outlook app. Samsung and Sony have good native email clients but if you have a Nokia, Pixel or any vanilla Android phone you only get Gmail. Even though it supports Exchange it’s a limited experience on Gmail which forces you to get Outlook or Nine.

    As I mentioned before, Outlook for Android does not populate your built in Calendar.
    Why force yourself to use the Outlook app then? Can't your phone directly sync the calendar to Exchange? Just turn off calendar notifications for Outlook app and use it exclusively for email. Or use a different email app then directly sync Outlook Calendar to the phone's built in Calendar.
    03-14-2019 05:49 AM
  14. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Why force yourself to use the Outlook app then? Can't your phone directly sync the calendar to Exchange? Just turn off calendar notifications for Outlook app and use it exclusively for email. Or use a different email app then directly sync Outlook Calendar to the phone's built in Calendar.
    As I said, not all OEMs ship with an email client. Google, Nokia, Motorola and others ship with Gmail only. Some companies also require you to use certain apps that they can enforce policy on, it’s not so cut and dried sometimes.
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    03-14-2019 09:37 AM
  15. chanchan05's Avatar
    As I said, not all OEMs ship with an email client. Google, Nokia, Motorola and others ship with Gmail only. Some companies also require you to use certain apps that they can enforce policy on, it’s not so cut and dried sometimes.
    So basically it's another reason why not to choose 'stock' Android then.

    Sorry. I'm just one of those people who thinks stock is overrated.
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    03-14-2019 09:39 AM
  16. Guytronic's Avatar
    Windows? As in on PC as well?

    So you're using Gmail, Google Drive, Google Docs and so on?
    Not using Windows on a PC much if at all lately.

    With mobile I still enjoy aquamail. I back up to Google.
    I never do any sort of work on mobile being retired, so docs or office apps aren't needed.
    Never thought I would step away from a Windows PC.
    03-17-2019 03:27 AM
  17. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Not using Windows on a PC much if at all lately.

    With mobile I still enjoy aquamail. I back up to Google.
    I never do any sort of work on mobile being retired, so docs or office apps aren't needed.
    Never thought I would step away from a Windows PC.
    I can’t imagine what that’s like, I still have 8 years of indentured servitude to go before retiring. Is it nice? Does the sun shine brighter?
    03-17-2019 11:32 AM
  18. Guytronic's Avatar
    I can’t imagine what that’s like, I still have 8 years of indentured servitude to go before retiring. Is it nice? Does the sun shine brighter?

    So nice when the hand cuffs come off and that gate swings open
    The sun is most definitely brighter.
    03-17-2019 05:46 PM
  19. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Not using Windows on a PC much if at all lately.

    With mobile I still enjoy aquamail. I back up to Google.
    I never do any sort of work on mobile being retired, so docs or office apps aren't needed.
    Never thought I would step away from a Windows PC.
    Aquamail is my email app. I've even used it for business communications with my LG V20.

    I primarily use a Windows PC to compose and edit Word documents and to watch Netflix or YouTube videos. Otherwise, I use my Android phone or tablet more than my PC.
    03-18-2019 01:27 AM
  20. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Aquamail is my email app. I've even used it for business communications with my LG V20.

    I primarily use a Windows PC to compose and edit Word documents and to watch Netflix or YouTube videos. Otherwise, I use my Android phone or tablet more than my PC.
    How is Aquamail “better” than Nine or Outlook in your experience? I’m not a fan of either so I’m always looking for an alternative. The BlackBerry Hub is not available on iOS so I prefer a cross-platform solution.
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    03-19-2019 05:18 PM
  21. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    How is Aquamail “better” than Nine or Outlook in your experience? I’m not a fan of either so I’m always looking for an alternative. The BlackBerry Hub is not available on iOS so I prefer a cross-platform solution.
    I like Aquamail better than the Outlook app, since I am able to attach files that aren't pictures.

    I haven't tried Nine, so I have no idea how well it works.
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    03-19-2019 07:13 PM
  22. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I like Aquamail better than the Outlook app, since I am able to attach files that aren't pictures.

    I haven't tried Nine, so I have no idea how well it works.
    You can attach files on Outlook but I find it a chore. Too many steps for my tastes. Not to mention it doesn’t sync to the phone’s native calendar app.

    Nine is a very feature-laden app but push works on its own schedule, not mine. If they ever get that right I won’t consider anything else.

    I’ll look into Aquamail, thanks for the tip since I’d never heard of it.
    03-19-2019 07:22 PM
  23. chanchan05's Avatar
    You can attach files on Outlook but I find it a chore. Too many steps for my tastes. Not to mention it doesn’t sync to the phone’s native calendar app.

    Nine is a very feature-laden app but push works on its own schedule, not mine. If they ever get that right I won’t consider anything else.

    I’ll look into Aquamail, thanks for the tip since I’d never heard of it.
    I tried Aquamail's free version before (limited to 2 accounts and has a watermark/sig by the dev). It's nice, but I didn't feel it was worth the $10 they're asking, especially when there are pretty solid alternatives that are much cheaper or even free.
    03-19-2019 10:47 PM
  24. Lightning_Racer's Avatar
    Depends on the platform. As the OP mentioned, MS apps don’t always work as well on other platforms and I go straight to Outlook. Whether it’s Android or iOS, the app blows chunks. I mean, the calendar still doesn’t sync with the default calendar app and that’s just crazy.
    I'm relatively new to Android, coming from Lumias 630 and 650. I haven't really worried about the calendar yet through several months of Galaxy S7 ownership (which I broke recently, went back to 650 for a few weeks), and now a Pixel 2 that I'm just getting used to, only got it last Friday. I mainly use the calendar on my Surface Pro 3, and haven't really needed the additional reminders on my phone.

    So I'm wondering, what I'm missing in not getting sync with the default calendar, and why would I want to use the default Google/Android calendar? I noticed this morning that I got an Outlook calendar notification popping up on the Pixel, so the Outlook calendar notifications that I enter on my SP3 show up and work. I tried adding a calendar event on Outlook using the phone, and that works too.

    Main difference for the calendar that I notice compared to my SP3 is that I have two apps on the Surface Pro 3, mail and calendar, vs. one app, Outlook, with calendar as a button within Outlook.

    _________________________

    As for the main question of the thread, I am using the same Microsoft things on the phone as before except the actual phone. So that's Edge (much better on Android than W10M, where it buggy on some sites), Outlook for my mail (Hotmail/Outlook.com has the only personal email account I've used ever, never signed up for gmail, etc.), outlook calendar, Onenote, Onedrive for my photo backup and access to all my files on my SP3. I also use Microsoft News as my main sources of news, as well as the MSN Sports and Weather. I look in the MSN Money app maybe once a week.

    My non-streaming music on my SP3 is listened using Groove. I just uploaded the same files to Google Play, and also have them downloaded to the phone. The interface is much, much worse than the Groove on W10M, but that's all I've figured out so far. I added Spotify recently, and I use the free streaming there. I don't really use the phone for music every day. In the car for every day use, I listen to the car radio (really wish my Pixel 2 had FM radio, as well as a headphone jack to use headphones as an antenna). I mainly use music on my phone for long road trips, especially places out of cell phone and radio range (far north/Alaska/Yukon/northern BC, etc.).

    The Google app I use most is YouTube, which doesn't have a Microsoft alternative.

    I guess my photos are also being uploaded to Google automatically, but I just consider that an extra backup, and don't actually use the backup. I do use Google photos for viewing after a shot though. I rarely edit photos on the phone. I'm pretty happy with the way Photos on Windows 10 is now, and that's my main viewing/editing app. I wish Microsoft would make a Photos app for Android like the one that is on W10M (or better). That might be THE big hole for me now, switching from W10M. I see all Onedrive photos on W10M/Lumia through the Photos app there. The Onedrive app doesn't work as well for viewing photos.

    For maps, I know Microsoft doesn't partner with HERE anymore but I use both that and Google Maps. I also tried Waze, and used my Toyota in-car navigation. I'm kind of split between Google and HERE, depending on where I am driving. I have offline maps downloaded onto my phone for all of US and Canada for HERE maps.

    One thing I haven't spent time figuring out is my long contact list from Outlook.com. I don't call more than 2-4 people regularly, so I just have those entered manually.

    I am using Google Pay, having tried it for the first time several months ago. My main stores (grocery) don't accept contactless payment though. I would have favored Samsung Pay on my Galaxy S7 for the ability to imitate magnetic strip cards, but it had been rooted before I bought it, so SPay was blocked. I don't know if Microsoft Pay/Wallet ever worked. I never tried it on my Lumia 650. Trying it now, it crashes when I try to add a card.

    For search, I still use Bing. When I don't get the results I want, I've tried going to a private window and trying Google to avoid the tracking, and I never find that I'm missing anything.

    On my Samsung, I put on the Microsoft Launcher right away, so I never really got to see what the stock Samsung was like, and probably mistake some Samsung features in for Microsoft or vice versa... It took me a while to figure out the clock/weather widget was Samsung, not Microsoft. For the new Pixel, I'm going to use the Pixel Launcher for a while before trying other Launchers. Other than trying it out some years ago, I really don't use Cortana. I don't ever plan to use Google Assistant (turned off the squeeze feature), so there's a big wasted space on the bottom of my home screen at the moment, a reason to go to a launcher, since it can't be turned off, I think. I liked how the Microsoft Launcher could hide apps I couldn't uninstall, but I don't need that as much on this phone. The Google app left of the home screen is populated by things I watch on YouTube. If I put Microsoft Launcher on, it would be populated by Microsoft News things, and the Outlook calendar things, I suppose. I'm not sure I want that duplication, and never used that left-of-home screen.

    I have Office too, the 365 subscription. Anything else doesn't make sense based on what I always have used for work or personal docs.
    Last edited by Lightning_Racer; 03-20-2019 at 06:15 AM.
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    03-20-2019 04:22 AM
  25. dlalonde's Avatar
    Aquamail is my email app. I've even used it for business communications with my LG V20.

    I primarily use a Windows PC to compose and edit Word documents and to watch Netflix or YouTube videos. Otherwise, I use my Android phone or tablet more than my PC.
    So otherwise you're still full Microsoft even on Android? Not necessarily for apps (like Aquamail) but for services?

    Not using Windows on a PC much if at all lately.

    With mobile I still enjoy aquamail. I back up to Google.
    I never do any sort of work on mobile being retired, so docs or office apps aren't needed.
    Never thought I would step away from a Windows PC.
    Oh! So you're using Linux or Mac?

    Yeah. All you have to do is go to settings>accounts and backup>accounts>add acount>microsoft activesync. Add your outlook account and boom your emails, calendars, contacts, and tasks show up on the relevant Samsung apps.
    No need for the Outlook app at all.
    It works really well! Thanks :)

    I'm relatively new to Android, coming from Lumias 630 and 650. I haven't really worried about the calendar yet through several months of Galaxy S7 ownership (which I broke recently, went back to 650 for a few weeks), and now a Pixel 2 that I'm just getting used to, only got it last Friday. I mainly use the calendar on my Surface Pro 3, and haven't really needed the additional reminders on my phone.

    So I'm wondering, what I'm missing in not getting sync with the default calendar, and why would I want to use the default Google/Android calendar? I noticed this morning that I got an Outlook calendar notification popping up on the Pixel, so the Outlook calendar notifications that I enter on my SP3 show up and work. I tried adding a calendar event on Outlook using the phone, and that works too.

    Main difference for the calendar that I notice compared to my SP3 is that I have two apps on the Surface Pro 3, mail and calendar, vs. one app, Outlook, with calendar as a button within Outlook.

    _________________________

    As for the main question of the thread, I am using the same Microsoft things on the phone as before except the actual phone. So that's Edge (much better on Android than W10M, where it buggy on some sites), Outlook for my mail (Hotmail/Outlook.com has the only personal email account I've used ever, never signed up for gmail, etc.), outlook calendar, Onenote, Onedrive for my photo backup and access to all my files on my SP3. I also use Microsoft News as my main sources of news, as well as the MSN Sports and Weather. I look in the MSN Money app maybe once a week.

    My non-streaming music on my SP3 is listened using Groove. I just uploaded the same files to Google Play, and also have them downloaded to the phone. The interface is much, much worse than the Groove on W10M, but that's all I've figured out so far. I added Spotify recently, and I use the free streaming there. I don't really use the phone for music every day. In the car for every day use, I listen to the car radio (really wish my Pixel 2 had FM radio, as well as a headphone jack to use headphones as an antenna). I mainly use music on my phone for long road trips, especially places out of cell phone and radio range (far north/Alaska/Yukon/northern BC, etc.).

    The Google app I use most is YouTube, which doesn't have a Microsoft alternative.

    I guess my photos are also being uploaded to Google automatically, but I just consider that an extra backup, and don't actually use the backup. I do use Google photos for viewing after a shot though. I rarely edit photos on the phone. I'm pretty happy with the way Photos on Windows 10 is now, and that's my main viewing/editing app. I wish Microsoft would make a Photos app for Android like the one that is on W10M (or better). That might be THE big hole for me now, switching from W10M. I see all Onedrive photos on W10M/Lumia through the Photos app there. The Onedrive app doesn't work as well for viewing photos.

    For maps, I know Microsoft doesn't partner with HERE anymore but I use both that and Google Maps. I also tried Waze, and used my Toyota in-car navigation. I'm kind of split between Google and HERE, depending on where I am driving. I have offline maps downloaded onto my phone for all of US and Canada for HERE maps.

    One thing I haven't spent time figuring out is my long contact list from Outlook.com. I don't call more than 2-4 people regularly, so I just have those entered manually.

    I am using Google Pay, having tried it for the first time several months ago. My main stores (grocery) don't accept contactless payment though. I would have favored Samsung Pay on my Galaxy S7 for the ability to imitate magnetic strip cards, but it had been rooted before I bought it, so SPay was blocked. I don't know if Microsoft Pay/Wallet ever worked. I never tried it on my Lumia 650. Trying it now, it crashes when I try to add a card.

    For search, I still use Bing. When I don't get the results I want, I've tried going to a private window and trying Google to avoid the tracking, and I never find that I'm missing anything.

    On my Samsung, I put on the Microsoft Launcher right away, so I never really got to see what the stock Samsung was like, and probably mistake some Samsung features in for Microsoft or vice versa... It took me a while to figure out the clock/weather widget was Samsung, not Microsoft. For the new Pixel, I'm going to use the Pixel Launcher for a while before trying other Launchers. Other than trying it out some years ago, I really don't use Cortana. I don't ever plan to use Google Assistant (turned off the squeeze feature), so there's a big wasted space on the bottom of my home screen at the moment, a reason to go to a launcher, since it can't be turned off, I think. I liked how the Microsoft Launcher could hide apps I couldn't uninstall, but I don't need that as much on this phone. The Google app left of the home screen is populated by things I watch on YouTube. If I put Microsoft Launcher on, it would be populated by Microsoft News things, and the Outlook calendar things, I suppose. I'm not sure I want that duplication, and never used that left-of-home screen.

    I have Office too, the 365 subscription. Anything else doesn't make sense based on what I always have used for work or personal docs.
    Thanks for the lengthy response!

    I don't think going to safe mode changes anything. Personally I treat everything I do on Android as if Google knows. I could be wrong though but that's the kind of trust I have in them.

    I had Here WeGo as a map but as GPS it's way too outdated. There's a road that hasn't existed for at least a year in a major city and it sent me to it last week. So I'm back to Gmaps.

    As for Bing it is very good indeed. But I still use Google as it usually gets better results.
    03-21-2019 12:08 PM
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