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  1. Ahmadali Shafiee's Avatar
    About Music Player: There is an app named Music+ (MUSIC+ | Windows Phone Apps+Games Store (United States)) which has transparent tile and that's the reason I think it's WP8.1 app. This app has a Music Player.
    06-09-2014 11:16 AM
  2. Ray Adams's Avatar
    What are you trying to say? That I am liar about the decision that Microsoft removed background audioplayer from Silverlight 8.1 applications?
    What the hell did I make "Folder Play" for? Why should I remove something very useful from Pocket File Manager?
    06-09-2014 12:39 PM
  3. Ahmadali Shafiee's Avatar
    What are you trying to say? That I am liar about the decision that Microsoft removed background audioplayer from Silverlight 8.1 applications?
    What the hell did I make "Folder Play" for? Why should I remove something very useful from Pocket File Manager?
    I didn't mean that! Sorry if I made you sad! I was trying to say that maybe there is another way to bring such a useful tool back.

    I'm wasn't saying that you're liar! Just tried to help.

    I'm really really sorry for that!
    06-09-2014 01:21 PM
  4. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    What are you trying to say? That I am liar about the decision that Microsoft removed background audioplayer from Silverlight 8.1 applications?
    What the hell did I make "Folder Play" for? Why should I remove something very useful from Pocket File Manager?
    As a dev,I think you shouldn't have that kinda attitude towards your customers, you know...You have to have lots of patience..... Even if the opposing party is wrong... Just saying. I have seen much worse responses as compared to the polite response given by the guy who posted above me.
    Usama Jawad96 likes this.
    06-09-2014 01:37 PM
  5. Usama Jawad96's Avatar
    As a dev,I think you shouldn't have that kinda attitude towards your customers, you know...You have to have lots of patience..... Even if the opposing party is wrong... Just saying. I have seen much worse responses as compared to the polite response given by the guy who posted above me.
    +620
    I was surprised as well :-/
    06-09-2014 01:50 PM
  6. Ray Adams's Avatar
    Sorry if I was sounded angry. I did not mean to offense anyone. But I am really tired to give same answer hundred of times. Do you know how many emails I am receiving per day? Sometimes it is very hard burden. And again, I apologize that I was too harsh in my answer.

    Microsoft made a hell of a job to make developers live to be very hard. Windows 8.1 now has TWO ecosystem in one bottle. Silverlight (from wp7 and 8.0) and new one, RunTime. And because MS trying to force people to use RunTime they just doing same things over and over by just removing support from tech they do not like anymore.

    I really want to talk with the men behind all those idiotic restrictions implemented in Windows Phone. I just want to ask them, do you guys have Windows Phone? Do you really use it?
    06-09-2014 02:00 PM
  7. amolbaikar's Avatar
    @RayAdams
    Lol
    You already trolled.
    06-09-2014 02:08 PM
  8. Ahmadali Shafiee's Avatar
    Sorry if I was sounded angry. I did not mean to offense anyone. But I am really tired to give same answer hundred of times. Do you know how many emails I am receiving per day? Sometimes it is very hard burden. And again, I apologize that I was too harsh in my answer.

    Microsoft made a hell of a job to make developers live to be very hard. Windows 8.1 now has TWO ecosystem in one bottle. Silverlight (from wp7 and 8.0) and new one, RunTime. And because MS trying to force people to use RunTime they just doing same things over and over by just removing support from tech they do not like anymore.

    I really want to talk with the men behind all those idiotic restrictions implemented in Windows Phone. I just want to ask them, do you guys have Windows Phone? Do you really use it?
    Windows Phone is a very young OS. And it tries to compete with iOS and android with at least 7 years of experience.

    Microsoft spent many years to create the great and powerful .Net platform from older technologies to COM and finally .Net

    So it's predictable that WP can't be great in two years.
    06-09-2014 02:23 PM
  9. Ahmadali Shafiee's Avatar
    I don't know if this can be used for background audio player that you mean or not :Overview: Background audio (Windows Phone Store apps) (Windows)
    06-09-2014 02:39 PM
  10. Ray Adams's Avatar
    This is for RunTime environment. Which is used in "Folder play". Unfortunately old apps are using Silverlight runtime and cannot be upgraded to RunTime wp8.1. You need to rewrite all codes from scratch.

    As about young OS :) Who cares that it is young when you can see, touch and use other OSes? Do you expect that new vehicle company will produce cars like in 1930 year just because they are young? :)
    There is no excuses for MS to be the last in line. They already spent 4 years, not two

    Do not get me wrong, I am MS man :) I like it, but if I wont see bad side of WP, I will be not better than iSheepers or Bugfans, who see nothing bad in their OSes :)
    06-09-2014 03:23 PM
  11. Ray Adams's Avatar
    BackgroundMediaPlayer class (Windows)
    This is link to class used to play audio in background. Rad at the bottom. Runatime only. No silverlight.
    The strange thing is applications compiled for wp8.0, but running in wp8.1 CAN use this class! That means this is artificial restriction, not hardware or software.
    06-09-2014 03:27 PM
  12. Ray Adams's Avatar
    Anyone has the problems with installation 8.1 version of application from Store?
    06-10-2014 01:34 AM
  13. eko_p's Avatar
    Sorry if I was sounded angry. I did not mean to offense anyone. But I am really tired to give same answer hundred of times. Do you know how many emails I am receiving per day? Sometimes it is very hard burden. And again, I apologize that I was too harsh in my answer.

    Microsoft made a hell of a job to make developers live to be very hard. Windows 8.1 now has TWO ecosystem in one bottle. Silverlight (from wp7 and 8.0) and new one, RunTime. And because MS trying to force people to use RunTime they just doing same things over and over by just removing support from tech they do not like anymore.

    I really want to talk with the men behind all those idiotic restrictions implemented in Windows Phone. I just want to ask them, do you guys have Windows Phone? Do you really use it?
    I know how you feel about given the same question every time. I seen your post about music player on page 24 just one page behind this page

    What is it so hard to understand....
    Good or bad ms has made their decision and dev have to choose ... either to keep PFM as 8.0 app with music player or make PFM as 8.1 app with access to internal folder. because PFM is a file manager app the logical choice is obvious

    If anyone want to play music in specific folder you can just make a playlist with ms music app. If you don't like music app you can use mixradio to play your playlist. Ray even spend his time to make Folder Play for those who don't like music and mixradio app

    There are plenty of ways to play your music but there is no file manager unlike PFM
    06-11-2014 09:42 AM
  14. Ray Adams's Avatar
    Thanks for support. I indeed made Folder Play for all who missing this feature in PFM as it is more easy to make player, than rewriting 2 years old project like PFM to new RunTime platform
    06-11-2014 10:24 AM
  15. Ahmadali Shafiee's Avatar
    Isn't it possible to connect folder play and PFM?

    I mean if user has installed folder play play music with the app instead of os default player?

    Or add option to popup menu or add "play music with folder play" option to settings?


    About the young OS: From user point of view it's a great car with same efficiently as Android and iOS. (after WP8.1) it's still not perfect OS but it's the cost of doing a seven years job in two years.

    From developer point of view there is many good points and bad points. From my point of view MS is the most developer friendly company with the best developing tools (I haven't tried xcode but in compare with Android its tools are much better than Andriods) and I like it that it listens to developers.
    But it's true that it has many bad points. The fact that it starts everything from beginning (Like Xbox Music app for WP8.1 or Windows Phone itself: WP8's core is same as Windows although WP7.5 hadn't NT core and that's why I'm saying it's two years old OS) and RunTime technology is same. I don't know how to make my developers (if I had a technology) to migrate from an old technology to newer one. But I think they hadn't any better idea.

    PFM suggestions: (they came up to my mind whenever I use PFM)

    1. When I press + button and then I press back it should (I think it's better to) close the popup menu instead of going to parent folder.

    2. Move "new folder" button to + menu.

    3. (design suggestion) For popup menu (the one that opens when you tap and hold on file/folder):

    Keep basic tools on menu and move utilities to an advanced menu.

    My suggestions:

    Files: Copy/Cut/Delete/Rename/Information
    And since the app is opening every file in phone, "in phone" option is useless (unless there is something that I missed)

    Folders: Copy/Cut/Delete/Rename/Information

    4. Copy to/Move to tool. In desktop it is possible to open two or more windows and for copy paste we easily switch between windows (one window for source and one for target) but here we can't do that and it gets important when you want to organize and categorize files of a folder.

    5. Add "by http" to folders. It's useful when we want to move files between folders. Something like http access to phone and SD. (if there isn't idiotic restrictions)

    6. (I don't know if this is already possible) When I enable by http let me do something else inside the app.

    Since I don't know any place for "Folder Play" I write my suggestions here:

    1. When I select "Music" folder (after tapping on "add" in app bar) I prefer to see the childs of the folder in the page. Not the folder itself (or something like this:
    -Music
    --Arash
    --Hans Zimmer
    --Howard Shore
    --Yanni
    I mean show the childs under the parent folder's name in the main page)

    2. When I play a folder it's good to play it's subfolders too.

    3. Shuffle option: Since Xbox Music can't shuffle an artist, it will be useful option.
    I
    06-12-2014 11:14 AM
  16. Ray Adams's Avatar
    Will think about. As about connection between two apps. User must add folders in PFM and in Folde play to be able to play any file. This is simehting that not all users could understand and it will be very hard to explain it everytime some would ask why it doesnt play :)
    06-12-2014 11:30 AM
  17. Ahmadali Shafiee's Avatar
    Thank you for the latest update :) I mentioned the provider folder names and the loading GIF.

    Thanks :)
    06-12-2014 11:34 AM
  18. Ahmadali Shafiee's Avatar
    And new folder default name and pre selecting :)
    Thanks :)
    06-12-2014 11:37 AM
  19. Ahmadali Shafiee's Avatar
    First question: Can you find out if folder play is installed?
    06-12-2014 11:53 AM
  20. Ray Adams's Avatar
    Probably yes. Why?
    06-13-2014 05:59 AM
  21. Ahmadali Shafiee's Avatar
    Forgot about that question.

    I have an idea. If I wanted to connect PFM and folder play:

    In PFM when user wants to play a folder I create a .tofolderplay file (e.g. Play1.tofolderplay) containing the location of music or folder and pass it to system and system will deliver it to folder play.

    In folder play if it doesn't have access to the folder or file I show error to user that he/she should give folder play access to the folder/file.

    Sorry! since English isn't my first language, it was the only way I could write my idea.
    06-13-2014 12:10 PM
  22. Kodary's Avatar
    you need to tap on the file you want for about 1-2 seconds and a menu will appear. then choose unpack, i don't now if this feature is available in the free version as i have the paid one
    HI again, I just purchased the full version of PFM, but I still don't see the "unpack" option after I tapped and holding on a zip file or an rar file, I'm using wp8.1 running on Lumia 1520. Just wondering what I did wrong, :)
    06-17-2014 12:50 AM
  23. Ray Adams's Avatar
    Look better in popup menu and do not forget that you can unpack files only in local storages (SD Card, Phone memoy), not in cloud
    06-17-2014 01:38 AM
  24. Kodary's Avatar
    Look better in popup menu and do not forget that you can unpack files only in local storages (SD Card, Phone memoy), not in cloud
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    This is the screen shots I took as my confusion lives on. Maybe the reason that caused this problem is because my system's language was set to Simplified Chinese? I asked some of my friends who also got the paid version and running Chinese on their phone, they also don't see the "unpack" option in the pop up menu after holding on to a zip/rar file.
    06-17-2014 05:25 PM
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    This is the screen shots I took as my confusion lives on. Maybe the reason that caused this problem is because my system's language was set to Simplified Chinese? I asked some of my friends who also got the paid version and running Chinese on their phone, they also don't see the "unpack" option in the pop up menu after holding on to a zip/rar file.
    This forum is for 'Pocket File Manager'. What you are using is 'Pocket Explorer' app. There is a separate forum for that app. Find that forum in the following link:

    http://forums.windowscentral.com/dev...beta-10-a.html
    Ahmadali Shafiee likes this.
    06-18-2014 01:30 AM
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