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  1. baseballbert's Avatar
    One of my clients is a marketing professor, and we were talking the latest iPhone buzz. She said Apple is in danger of becoming uncool because it is so mainstream.

    "it is the safe device that even a 52-year-old can easily use. My generation has gravitated to it because it's easy to use. So if 50 year olds use it, how can it still be cool/hip?"

    She also said Nokia may have a shot in spite of the "release" a couple weeks back. Primarily because now there's a cool alternative to having the same phone as your parents, aunts/uncles and grandparents.
    09-17-2012 01:17 PM
  2. Scout_313's Avatar
    I really don't care if the phone I use is "cool" or not so long as it does what I need it to do. I like Windows Phone because it puts so much information right at my fingertips.
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    09-17-2012 01:23 PM
  3. baseballbert's Avatar
    And that pretty much sums up what the people in Redmond set out to do! Perfectly stated!
    09-17-2012 01:26 PM
  4. ImmortalWarrior's Avatar
    Soon hipsters will be saying, "I had an iPhone before your grandma did."
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    09-17-2012 01:30 PM
  5. Old_Cus's Avatar
    Hmmmmm......I guess my wife (57) and myself (56) better hide our window phones so the youngsters won't think they're old folks phones ;)

    Window Phone......so easy even your grandparents can use it!
    09-17-2012 02:30 PM
  6. power5's Avatar
    I think there are more "old" people than "young" people thanks to the baby boomers so I would say any phone system has "old" people using it and asking their younger offspring for the occasional help.
    09-17-2012 02:41 PM
  7. baseballbert's Avatar
    So on the iMore, this same post essentially garnered answers of "she's full of ****." Really? A PhD'd Mktg professor doesn't know what she's talking about when it comes to marketing and consumer behavior patterns?

    GD those iZealots drive me nuts.
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    09-17-2012 03:27 PM
  8. cgk's Avatar
    So on the iMore, this same post essentially garnered answers of "she's full of ****." Really? A PhD'd Mktg professor doesn't know what she's talking about when it comes to marketing and consumer behavior patterns?

    GD those iZealots drive me nuts.
    I have a PhD and am a prof in mobile technologies and their usage - if I say the iPhone is cool - does that mean that it is? Or is an evidence based approach better?
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    09-17-2012 03:47 PM
  9. scottcraft's Avatar
    I don't know whether the iphone is cool or not, but I know a lot of people just preordered the iphone 5.
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    09-17-2012 05:21 PM
  10. alpinestars1z's Avatar
    So on the iMore, this same post essentially garnered answers of "she's full of ****." Really? A PhD'd Mktg professor doesn't know what she's talking about when it comes to marketing and consumer behavior patterns?

    GD those iZealots drive me nuts.
    Same here. When I read a thread there about are you getting the iPhone 5 or not, there was this one dude who was going to get the 920 because he was disappointed with the iPhone 5. Then everyone started attacking him.

    These are also the same people who feel the need to defend Apple's decision not to include NFC and wireless charging, giving such BS excuses.

    If I were to say, "I think the Lumia 920 is better than the iPhone 5."

    Some people there would just hear: "iPhone 5 is crap," even though that's not what I had said.

    I used to be an active member there (I used to own an iPhone actually) but I'm staying away now.
    09-17-2012 05:41 PM
  11. baseballbert's Avatar
    There are nice people on that board, but there seem to be a lot of people who go nuts if someone else feels differently than they do. Go with what works for you whatever the OS!
    Last edited by baseballbert; 09-18-2012 at 12:48 AM.
    09-17-2012 08:46 PM
  12. jimski's Avatar
    Damn, at 56 am I going to be delegated to only being able to buy a Cricket, so I can press the single button and say, "I've fallen and I can't get up". Really now.

    I will admit that I know quite a few 50 something's that are total technology noobs, and yes, they do own iPhones (and don't know how to use them aside from making/receiving calls). "It just works" is more important than you may think.

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    09-17-2012 11:03 PM
  13. jimski's Avatar
    Same here. When I read a thread there about are you getting the iPhone 5 or not, there was this one dude who was going to get the 920 because he was disappointed with the iPhone 5. Then everyone started attacking him.

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    Well, their not spending all the time bickering about whether iPhoneX is thinner, or fatter, or smoother, or heavier than iPhoneY, so they have to ***** about something.

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    09-17-2012 11:05 PM
  14. smoledman's Avatar
    Who cares about "hip" and "cool"? The iPhone is the best smartphone on the planet with the best ecosystem, the best customer service, the best customer satisfaction. The cool/hip thing is so transient.
    09-18-2012 12:33 AM
  15. sconrad308's Avatar
    Who cares about "hip" and "cool"? The iPhone is the best smartphone on the planet with the best ecosystem, the best customer service, the best customer satisfaction. The cool/hip thing is so transient.

    lol. That is debatable. I had one, and returned after about 2 weeks because it was not enjoyable for me. I work on Mac's for my job and will tell you that their service is not the best. It is the cool phone, until they actually use a different one and notice the cool things they do.

    But just go get your iPhone, there is no reason for you to be here since you dislike the WP so much. Goodbye.
    09-18-2012 07:11 AM
  16. power5's Avatar
    Damn, at 56 am I going to be delegated to only being able to buy a Cricket, so I can press the single button and say, "I've fallen and I can't get up". Really now.

    I will admit that I know quite a few 50 something's that are total technology noobs, and yes, they do own iPhones (and don't know how to use them aside from making/receiving calls). "It just works" is more important than you may think.

    Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express Pro
    Jitterbug is where its at my man. :D

    My 64 year old dad loves his apple world. Has Apple TV, Newest iPad, getting iPhone 5, and getting retina MBP next. He likes how he can do everything and it follows his itunes account. I have tried to explain that any platform can do that. Android can, WP can and with w8 coming out, he will even be able to use the same document on his tablet as his AIO and phone, something he can not do 100% with apple.
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    09-18-2012 07:40 AM
  17. power5's Avatar
    Who cares about "hip" and "cool"? The iPhone is the best smartphone on the planet with the best ecosystem, the best customer service, the best customer satisfaction. The cool/hip thing is so transient.
    lol. That is debatable. I had one, and returned after about 2 weeks because it was not enjoyable for me. I work on Mac's for my job and will tell you that their service is not the best. It is the cool phone, until they actually use a different one and notice the cool things they do.

    But just go get your iPhone, there is no reason for you to be here since you dislike the WP so much. Goodbye.
    Its debatable but I think its still true. Well maybe not that iPhone is the best phone, but its iOS may be. Every app is available. Any App you can think of is available in multiple versions. Everything does work as it should. I will have to ask my brother but I would assume wireless sync is a no brainer to setup for apple. For some reason I can not get it working on my TITAN though. I never had to do a hard reset on my iphone 3g in the 2.5 years I had it. Even after updating to the terrible 4.1 experience it never needed to be reset. My TITAN did not even make it a full year and needed to be reset. Not sure if its hardware or software related but should not happen. Sure reboot every so often, but not wipe back to factory.

    That said, new is cool and iphone is no longer as new as it once was. EVERYONE does have one now so its less hip. Hip is only for rare things. I was in the mall last weekend and EVERYONE had an iphone, even the kids. They were all at least the 4 as well. All had some tacky plastic colored case covering the elegantly fragile design as well. I just dropped my TITAN this morning from my sink to my ceramic tile bathroom floor with not even a nick. No need for some tacky case on my phone as it continues to live up to its namesake.
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    09-18-2012 07:50 AM
  18. Big Supes's Avatar
    Who cares about "hip" and "cool"? The iPhone is the best smartphone on the planet with the best ecosystem, the best customer service, the best customer satisfaction. The cool/hip thing is so transient.
    Spoken like a true Apple fan. Jobs would be proud. :)
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    09-18-2012 08:08 AM
  19. Simon Tupper's Avatar
    2 million pre-orders it's more than any other iPhone before, the company is not able to produce that much iPhones by the end of September.

    Do I really need to tell you that the iPhone is still creating a buzz all around the world?

    I think it speaks for itself.
    09-18-2012 08:17 AM
  20. Big Supes's Avatar
    2 million pre-orders it's more than any other iPhone before, the company is not able to produce that much iPhones by the end of September.

    Do I really need to tell you that the iPhone is still creating a buzz all around the world?

    I think it speaks for itself.
    Yeah, it also has nothing to do with carriers pushing this device like there is no tomorrow. I have friends who have received text messages from their carrier informing them that they can pre-order (reserve) their iPhone 5 before their contract expires. . .
    09-18-2012 08:26 AM
  21. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    I guess it's pretty hip to be part of the uncool crowd eh?
    09-18-2012 08:32 AM
  22. Simon Tupper's Avatar
    Yeah, it also has nothing to do with carriers pushing this device like there is no tomorrow. I have friends who have received text messages from their carrier informing them that they can pre-order (reserve) their iPhone 5 before their contract expires. . .
    Do the same thing with the Lumia 920 and it's not going to get 2 million pre-orders... It fun saying that we like WP8, but saying that the iPhone is not cool anymore, when I hear people talking about it everyday and people are anxious to get one... Here in Canada, nobody is talking about the Lumia 920... except me..
    09-18-2012 11:21 AM
  23. crystal_planet's Avatar
    Do the same thing with the Lumia 920 and it's not going to get 2 million pre-orders... It fun saying that we like WP8, but saying that the iPhone is not cool anymore, when I hear people talking about it everyday and people are anxious to get one... Here in Canada, nobody is talking about the Lumia 920... except me..
    I've seen exactly one Windows Phone here, and it was a Windows Mobile device. We just don't have the variety of devices available to us up here. Galaxy/iPhone and a smattering of BlackBerry is all I see.
    09-18-2012 11:28 AM
  24. jaj324's Avatar
    Excellent point. Whether the iPhone is cool or not, its not going anywhere.

    I don't know whether the iphone is cool or not, but I know a lot of people just preordered the iphone 5.

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    09-18-2012 11:28 AM
  25. Simon Tupper's Avatar
    I've seen exactly one Windows Phone here, and it was a Windows Mobile device. We just don't have the variety of devices available to us up here. Galaxy/iPhone and a smattering of BlackBerry is all I see.
    What are you talking about... bell don't have any windows phone, but other carriers had the lumias and titan II
    09-18-2012 11:35 AM
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