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  1. yeewiz's Avatar
    Hi RiseUpGames, I know that your time is very precious and I'm most appreciative of the awesome support you provide for this app. This isn't even your problem, but if you have a few seconds to spare, I'd appreciate any advice I can relay to the developer of Pocket File Manager. PFM is having problems rendering images shot with ProShot. Shots with the default camera app list and render just fine.

    This is the PFM listing for default camera pictures. Tapping on the name renders the image:
    wp_ss_20130701_0003.jpg

    This is the PFM listing for ProShot pictures shot in June. Note no .jpg extensions. Tapping on the name does nothing:
    wp_ss_20130701_0001.jpg


    This is the PFM listing for ProShot pictures shot in February. Note no underscores and no .jpg extensions:
    wp_ss_20130701_0002.jpg

    If you rather not get involved and/or don't have any spare time, please feel free to sh!tcan this request without comment. I would totally understand. OTOH, if you need more details, here's the thread: http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...s/226343-2.htm Page 2 is the only relevant page.

    Thank you again!
    07-01-2013 04:31 PM
  2. RiseUpGames's Avatar
    Hi RiseUpGames, I know that your time is very precious and I'm most appreciative of the awesome support you provide for this app. This isn't even your problem, but if you have a few seconds to spare, I'd appreciate any advice I can relay to the developer of Pocket File Manager. PFM is having problems rendering images shot with ProShot. Shots with the default camera app list and render just fine.

    This is the PFM listing for default camera pictures. Tapping on the name renders the image:
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	wp_ss_20130701_0003.jpg 
Views:	25 
Size:	88.5 KB 
ID:	36711

    This is the PFM listing for ProShot pictures shot in June. Note no .jpg extensions. Tapping on the name does nothing:
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	wp_ss_20130701_0001.jpg 
Views:	24 
Size:	98.4 KB 
ID:	36709


    This is the PFM listing for ProShot pictures shot in February. Note no underscores and no .jpg extensions:
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	wp_ss_20130701_0002.jpg 
Views:	24 
Size:	91.4 KB 
ID:	36710

    If you rather not get involved and/or don't have any spare time, please feel free to sh!tcan this request without comment. I would totally understand. OTOH, if you need more details, here's the thread: http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...s/226343-2.htm Page 2 is the only relevant page.

    Thank you again!
    No worries, I'm here to answer any questions relating to ProShot!

    First, there's a difference in the filenames (the underscores) because in regions where decimal points are used in dates instead of hyphens, it was causing people problems when trying to view images on their machines, so I forced underscores.

    Second, I am not sure why PFM doesn't recognize the photos from ProShot. The pictures taken with the default Windows Phone camera don't include filetype extensions in the name of the files, so I am not sure how it is recognizing those, and not the pics from ProShot.

    I wish I could offer more help :/
    yeewiz likes this.
    07-01-2013 06:11 PM
  3. yeewiz's Avatar
    hmmm, that's weird and not good. appreciate your time and insight. thanks!
    07-01-2013 08:45 PM
  4. Jonathan Piferrer's Avatar
    Riseup... i'd like to suggest something...

    - You should add live tile options.... (Proshot logo or rolling pictures, etc) cause its confusing sometimes with Windows Phone "pictures" live tile.

    Regards!
    07-03-2013 07:14 AM
  5. Davide_sd's Avatar
    Hi RiseUpGames,
    i'm just wandering if there is a way to "normalize" the light intensity; let say i want to take a shot of a river trying a long exposure time, so to achieve a "foggy" effect of the water surface.
    At the moment, the picture will look completely white (in many cases the app crash/is not able to save because too much light hit the sensor). So i'm guessing, if it would possible to normalize/adjust the light intensity in respect with time...
    ...just thinking...

    Anyway, i don't have much time in this period, but hope to try soon to use the Real 3D cinema glasses (the polarization effect) to achive long exposure time in a daylight shot.
    07-04-2013 03:12 PM
  6. RiseUpGames's Avatar
    Riseup... i'd like to suggest something...

    - You should add live tile options.... (Proshot logo or rolling pictures, etc) cause its confusing sometimes with Windows Phone "pictures" live tile.

    Regards!
    There is already an option for this in the 'Settings' panel :)



    Hi RiseUpGames,
    i'm just wandering if there is a way to "normalize" the light intensity; let say i want to take a shot of a river trying a long exposure time, so to achieve a "foggy" effect of the water surface.
    At the moment, the picture will look completely white (in many cases the app crash/is not able to save because too much light hit the sensor). So i'm guessing, if it would possible to normalize/adjust the light intensity in respect with time...
    ...just thinking...

    Anyway, i don't have much time in this period, but hope to try soon to use the Real 3D cinema glasses (the polarization effect) to achive long exposure time in a daylight shot.
    There's nothing that I can do to aid in the capture of long exposures during the daytime since these phones do not have adjustable apertures. I'd recommend using a pair of sunglasses as a mock ND filter instead.
    Jonathan Piferrer likes this.
    07-04-2013 03:53 PM
  7. falconrap's Avatar
    I am really sorry for this, it's a bug that I'm trying to get solved asap (something to do with saving images to the SD card).... haven't had enough time the past few weeks to address it, but now that //build/ is over I will go back to regular updates, with this bug being priority #1
    Just wanted to let you know that this is happening on my Lumia 822 as well (saving photos to SD), but wanted to let you know that this behavior seemed to have started 1 or 2 updates ago. It wasn't doing this before then. I find it is hit or miss when pulling it up as a lens from the main camera app. Maybe this can help you find the bug.
    07-04-2013 04:12 PM
  8. yeewiz's Avatar
    Davide_sd, not sure I understand what you mean by "normalize". But if your picture is completely white, that means you've overexposed the shot. You've got to reduce the amount of light getting to the sensor. To do that, you've got 4 options as I see it:
    1) Reduce the ISO. For example, lower from 400 to 100.
    2) Increase the shutter speed. So if you're at 4 secs., go to 1 sec. Even a 1 sec shot will create that blur which I think is the same as your "foggy" effect.
    3) Put plain old sunglasses in front of the lens to do the shot. RiseUpGames suggested this earlier. Based on my photography experience, polarization effect isn't the problem here, the problem is too much light. However, putting the Real 3D glasses on will do the same as sunglasses because you're cutting the amount of light.
    4) Shoot the shot later in the day when there is less light or when the scene is ion the shade.

    Hope this helps!
    07-04-2013 04:13 PM
  9. Davide_sd's Avatar
    Davide_sd, not sure I understand what you mean by "normalize". But if your picture is completely white, that means you've overexposed the shot. You've got to reduce the amount of light getting to the sensor. To do that, you've got 4 options as I see it:
    1) Reduce the ISO. For example, lower from 400 to 100.
    2) Increase the shutter speed. So if you're at 4 secs., go to 1 sec. Even a 1 sec shot will create that blur which I think is the same as your "foggy" effect.
    3) Put plain old sunglasses in front of the lens to do the shot. RiseUpGames suggested this earlier. Based on my photography experience, polarization effect isn't the problem here, the problem is too much light. However, putting the Real 3D glasses on will do the same as sunglasses because you're cutting the amount of light.
    4) Shoot the shot later in the day when there is less light or when the scene is ion the shade.

    Hope this helps!
    The nice thing about real 3d glasses is the following: if you place the two lenses one in front of the other, you are able to control the amount of light passing through them simply rotating the lenses. If the angle is exactly 90 degrees, no light should pass. =)
    07-04-2013 04:31 PM
  10. yeewiz's Avatar
    if those Real 3D lenses work like that, that's a good tool to have around, a totally variable ND filter. Let us know how it works!
    07-05-2013 10:27 AM
  11. mics_kiss18's Avatar
    Hi, I am planning to buy the application however I would like to know if my Lumia 720 is capable of 4 secs shutter speed. If not, may I know how far can I set it to? Thanks for the reply in advance.
    07-05-2013 11:42 AM
  12. mikeymcz's Avatar
    You can try the free version of the application.
    07-05-2013 01:33 PM
  13. RiseUpGames's Avatar
    ^^ Yep, the trial version will let you poke around, adjust anything you want, and even preview your captured images. The 720 supports up to 4 second image capture :)

    If you're saving photos to the SD card, there's a bug with that I'm trying to fix. It's proving to be strangely complicated, but I think I'm making progress. I'm dedicating the weekend to figuring this out. Am accepting pizza / beer donations :P
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    07-05-2013 01:50 PM
  14. mics_kiss18's Avatar
    hahaha...im willing to buy the application thought. I tried it before however I uninstalled it i do not know why..I dont know how to use it but I will make a purchase later.
    07-05-2013 02:36 PM
  15. mics_kiss18's Avatar
    thanks! I am so happy to know the 720 is capable of 4 secs shutter speed. The low light photos posted are irresistible and I would like to capture trail lights as well. Will definitely purchase later!
    07-05-2013 02:49 PM
  16. mics_kiss18's Avatar
    oh, I would be willing to send a pizza however I am from the philippines! it will already be spoiled when it gets to you..hahaha...
    07-05-2013 02:55 PM
  17. msualum's Avatar
    I have very little to add technically about this app. I just want to endorse it and state how much I love it. I seriously do not think it should be mentioned in the same breath as other camera apps on any platform. The photos I could capture on the 4th are far past awesome. I have a 920 and was happy prior to this app. Now I'm in love. MS should bundle this app with the OS. Definitely best of breed! Thank you riseupgames - consider me a happy consumer.
    Nabkawe5 likes this.
    07-05-2013 04:11 PM
  18. Nabkawe5's Avatar
    You can create a great ND filter using a small piece of glass with a 3M window tint applied to it.
    I have an actual ND filter but the problem it isn't dark enough. :)
    07-05-2013 05:14 PM
  19. Nabkawe5's Avatar
    Why an ND filter for day light photography.

    2013_07_06_01_24_57_proshot.jpg
    This is a 2 sec shutter with ISO set to 100 and exposure set to the lowest (the slider in the middle).

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    2013_07_06_01_26_16_proshot.jpg
    Using an ND filter; Marumi Neo MC-ND8 (it saturates too)

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    2013_07_06_01_30_24_proshot.jpg

    So when would an ND filter help me?
    When you want a long shutter time shot but you have too much light in your picture to do so. (As shown by the first picture i posted)
    or when you want to take a daylight picture with blur in it (not shakiness blur that is :D )
    See in pro cameras one could adjust the Aperture;( think of it like a window where you can adjust the lighting of a room when you open it or close it in various degrees. )
    This aperture is however locked in mobile phones due to size/durability issues, so the only two ways to control light would be ISO; sensors reaction to light depending on the amount of electricity you pass through the sensor you can capture more light or have the sensor read less light. (Keep in mind that the higher the ISO the higher noise you'll get in the end picture; high electricity = electric noise (OEMS remove that noise while saving the picture using either clever algorithms @Nokia or ****ty ones @almosteveryoneelse)
    the other way to control is shutter time; how long should the shutter stay open and accept light into the picture you're taking
    Shutter time goes hand and hand with ISO settings in mobile photography , a long shutter time would capture movement and lights and create cool low light pictures , but would also invite too much light from artificial lights or natural ones so people mostly use a low ISO with long shutter times because it creates almost noise-free pictures with the added benefits of a low light theme for the picture.

    Now In day light even setting ISO to 100 with exposure slider to -2 will still give a very over exposured shot , this where ND filters come in
    Its an external way to control the light going in and while on your pro camera using an ND filter would be a very expensive choice ( the right lens for the right camera) Camera phones have small camera holes so you can use any type of ND , DYI or professional with a satisfying result.

    (In all photography a steady camera gets a steady result a shaky one would give a shaky result , OIS can't help in low light past 2 secs shutter time you'll move and not shake and thus the not shaking part wont matter , and even if you shaked only OIS will jerk the camera the other way to counter your shake thus unwanted movement too so it won't work either. )
    Thanks for reading
    @nabkawe5
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    07-05-2013 07:10 PM
  20. manofice1's Avatar
    Can you adjust aperture with this app?
    07-06-2013 06:24 PM
  21. HansTj's Avatar
    Can you adjust aperture with this app?
    No, you can't.
    07-07-2013 01:08 AM
  22. badcat's Avatar
    Just wanted to let you know that this is happening on my Lumia 822 as well (saving photos to SD), but wanted to let you know that this behavior seemed to have started 1 or 2 updates ago. It wasn't doing this before then. I find it is hit or miss when pulling it up as a lens from the main camera app. Maybe this can help you find the bug.
    Hello RiseUp. I am also experiencing this on a Lumia 822 saving to SD card. I've also run into one other persistent bug that apparently hasn't affected anyone else and I thought I'd mention that as well. Sometimes if I've opened and used ProShot my phones screen won't come back on. I can see the buttons light up but the screen stays dark. I have to do a reset (volume down, power button) to get the phone back. This only happens if I've used ProShot and only sometimes. If ProShot is installed, but not opened, it doesn't happen. And if ProShot is uninstalled it doesn't happen. The phone is on Verizon and is up to date. I'd be happy to provide you with any other info you might need. Thanks for being here and supporting ProShot.
    07-07-2013 08:07 AM
  23. Y2HBK's Avatar
    Any Lumia 928 users that are using this app?

    I have been pretty satisfied with the low light pictures using the default camera app on my 928, but daytime pictures leave a lot to be desired.
    07-07-2013 01:08 PM
  24. yeewiz's Avatar
    Any Lumia 928 users that are using this app? I have been pretty satisfied with the low light pictures using the default camera app on my 928, but daytime pictures leave a lot to be desired.
    Are you shooting in automatic mode? if not, what setting? Can you post some shots?
    07-07-2013 02:00 PM
  25. RiseUpGames's Avatar
    Can you adjust aperture with this app?
    The camera hardware on all WP devices have fixed-aperture lenses, so it is not possible to adjust the aperture.



    Hello RiseUp. I am also experiencing this on a Lumia 822 saving to SD card. I've also run into one other persistent bug that apparently hasn't affected anyone else and I thought I'd mention that as well. Sometimes if I've opened and used ProShot my phones screen won't come back on. I can see the buttons light up but the screen stays dark. I have to do a reset (volume down, power button) to get the phone back. This only happens if I've used ProShot and only sometimes. If ProShot is installed, but not opened, it doesn't happen. And if ProShot is uninstalled it doesn't happen. The phone is on Verizon and is up to date. I'd be happy to provide you with any other info you might need. Thanks for being here and supporting ProShot.
    I am also experiencing this issue on my Lumia 520, but I am certain it has nothing to do with ProShot. Sometimes the screen just won't turn back on and I will have to do a soft reset. I think it is a hardware defect.
    07-07-2013 09:56 PM
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