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  1. Jay Bennett's Avatar
    Just thought I'd say RE: the price choice. The app is the absolute cheapest price tier that it can be because I agree that apps should be cheap unless they are something very different/special or a game
    06-16-2013 01:00 PM
  2. Jay Bennett's Avatar
    Why's the iMore app free then?
    Because we developed it under a different model whereby I am solely responsible for it rather than being employed by the site.
    Something to consider: Facebook have been struggling to monetise mobile by having a free app with no adverts. If there is no way to make money from development for these devices the market will collapse
    06-16-2013 01:03 PM
  3. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    What Jay has made is universally regarded a top 10 WP app for those who really care about the platform. Just find the .99 and support the man. It's not like he's at home twiddling his thumbs in mid air to make the app happen. His level of app support is amazing, so support the man & go premium.
    Last edited by MSFTisMIA; 06-16-2013 at 01:23 PM.
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    06-16-2013 01:12 PM
  4. Martsicky's Avatar
    People are complaining, and they won't stop... Few of them, due to available payment options - what is understood... Und rest of them, because they associate Microsoft Windows with free apps and games, no matter which country they live, and what is the price of product. They get used to download everything for free, without limited functionality nor ads... Just torrent client required and you won't even spend 0.01$. It's funny. I bet, that 90% of complaining people downloaded game via torrent. Thing worth at least 50$, that huge crew worked on long years... and now it's problem for them to support young creative developer with 1$?!?!?! It's time to change your habits. :)
    Last edited by Martsicky; 06-16-2013 at 01:55 PM.
    06-16-2013 01:36 PM
  5. Tony_Offends_U's Avatar
    I bought a candy bar for a dollar once. It's long gone.
    I bought this app for a dollar once. It's still here. AND it gets updates.
    06-16-2013 03:08 PM
  6. tgp's Avatar
    I understand the argument that it costs to develop and maintain an app, but the iMore and Android Central apps are free. And they are every bit as high quality and maintained just as well as far as I can tell.
    06-16-2013 03:15 PM
  7. aaa6112's Avatar
    I understand the argument that it costs to develop and maintain an app, but the iMore and Android Central apps are free. And they are every bit as high quality and maintained just as well as far as I can tell.
    try catching up with the thread.
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    06-16-2013 03:25 PM
  8. Duvi's Avatar
    I would have paid $4.99 for this app, without hesitation. This app works and works extremely well. One of, if not the best app in the marketplace.

    People are bored and just love complaining IMHO... I can name hundreds of apps that aren't worth .99 cents, even though they're priced higher. Yet, I see less complaining about those apps! It's a shame.
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    06-16-2013 03:34 PM
  9. tgp's Avatar
    Because we developed it under a different model whereby I am solely responsible for it rather than being employed by the site.
    That's interesting! So are the iMore & AC app developers being paid by the site? If so, why not wpcentral?

    By the way, you've done a great job on the app!
    06-16-2013 04:10 PM
  10. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    I understand the argument that it costs to develop and maintain an app, but the iMore and Android Central apps are free. And they are every bit as high quality and maintained just as well as far as I can tell.
    iMore and AC apps will have been developed by people employed by Mobile Nations. Jay is an independent developer who is associated with MN but isn't employed by them. He has to get food on the table somehow.
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    06-16-2013 04:59 PM
  11. lippidp's Avatar
    He has to get food on the table somehow.
    This argument bothers me. Don't get me wrong -- I am not complaining about the 99 cent price. I am going to complain about the notion of giving the developer charity so he can buy food. Screw that. If the product is worth the price then it will sell and the dev will get paid. If it is not worth the price then it will not sell and the dev will not get paid. Similarly, if Jay could be selling the same amount of licenses for more money then he should be doing so -- and is doing everyone a disservice by not doing so. We call this the free market - the best economic system ever developed by man. When you mess it up by throwing socialism or charity into the mix we all lose in the long run and end up with the sense of entitlement that is running rampant in the world today.
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    06-16-2013 08:01 PM
  12. Etios's Avatar
    xyronaut well said in india in 99cent i can hv my awesome lunch ~ :(
    99cent is around 55 rs i can buy 3 burgers is that much money
    So, you bought a Lumia 820 at $400/24k inr but can't pay $1 for an app? doesn't matter how much your lunch costs but since you can afford a smartphone, you can also afford to spend some money on apps which developers deserve.

    In the USA a cell phone can cost between $100 and $500. Are you saying that you pay between 5,500 rs and 27,500 rs or between 16,500 burgers and 82,500 burgers?

    That seems like a very high price. Is it possible?

    I'm trying to understand.
    Let me explain, Food is very cheap in India as its a developing country, developed countries have much higher priced food, rent, healthcare due to higher wages etc..
    He is exaggerating a bit, you get 2 veg burgers for $1 in India but most of the population(99%) eats local Indian food everyday and not the burgers,pasta,pizza etc. You can have local food lunch at $1 at small places or can spend as much as you want at expensive restaurants too if you have the budget.

    But all this doesn't mean that people can't spend on apps, someone who can afford a smartphone worth $200-$700 can easily afford to pay for apps. It is the thinking that has to change not the prices of apps. For example: My friend who owns an Audi A6 which costs $100k in India due to high taxes etc refuses to buy any app and prefers free version instead of paying $1. So, the mentality has to change and people educated that an app takes hardwork and time to make and deserves the money of the users.
    Last edited by eric12341; 06-18-2013 at 04:18 PM.
    06-16-2013 08:22 PM
  13. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    We call this the free market - the best economic system ever developed by man. When you mess it up by throwing socialism or charity into the mix we all lose in the long run and end up with the sense of entitlement that is running rampant in the world today.
    Really? Free market the best system invented by man? I'm on board with most of what you said until I saw this part. I can go pull a couple hundred million people across the globe would disagree with you here. How would you feel about being judged by your own comments with regards to how you get your own income? But I won't turn your comment into a social talking point, because this isn't the place for it....

    Again, it is a top 10 app for people who care about the platform, and casual users who like to get news on the platform. People will buy the app or use the free, ad supported version. No app is truly free, because someone has to invest time to write and update it, the app must get hosted someplace ($), etc. Everyone wants to be compensated for good work. It's not like this is a lousy app at all...
    06-16-2013 08:36 PM
  14. tgp's Avatar
    iMore and AC apps will have been developed by people employed by Mobile Nations. Jay is an independent developer who is associated with MN but isn't employed by them. He has to get food on the table somehow.
    Thanks; that answers my question. But it also brings up another one. Why do iMore & AC get free apps paid for by the site, but wpcentral doesn't? Isn't wpcentral also part of Mobile Nations?
    06-16-2013 09:18 PM
  15. troylytle's Avatar
    Easy. They get more ad revenue.
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    06-16-2013 09:53 PM
  16. chenhogi's Avatar
    I don't think anyone would say they regret the cost of the app
    Agreed. Very good app, and well worth the money.
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    06-16-2013 11:00 PM
  17. ArousedSpoon's Avatar
    Just went and bought the app. Seeing this thread reminded me I had actually never bought the app and just used the trial.
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    06-16-2013 11:19 PM
  18. rdubmu's Avatar
    Yep, the trial version is free and will never expire. We just give you the option to pay to remove ads and unlock premium features that are only possible with a native app. Plus, I put a lot of work into it and continually update with fixes, improvements and new features.

    I don't think anyone would say they regret the cost of the app
    it is by far my most used app. It is also given me the most bang for my buck in terms of finding new apps, and reading up on Windows Phone news. This is one benefit for people to own windowsphone and I would suggest all to download and pay for the premium version if you can afford it.

    I also agree with the poster above about how we should never treat a developer as a charity. If the App is good enough people will buy it. I think that WPcentral should increase the price. It is easily a $4.99 app, and it still gives me much more value than that.
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    06-16-2013 11:22 PM
  19. tgp's Avatar
    I also agree with the poster above about how we should never treat a developer as a charity. If the App is good enough people will buy it.
    Agreed. Android users are known for being stingy though. I've heard that that's why Angry Birds is free on Android but paid on iOS & WP. I tend to go with free apps if they'll do the job, but I use all 3 OS's. If I bought a lot of apps on all 3, the amount I spend would become noticeable!
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    06-16-2013 11:43 PM
  20. rdubmu's Avatar
    Agreed. Android users are known for being stingy though. I've heard that that's why Angry Birds is free on Android but paid on iOS & WP. I tend to go with free apps if they'll do the job, but I use all 3 OS's. If I bought a lot of apps on all 3, the amount I spend would become noticeable!
    I agree with you, I think most of us really rather get the free apps, but apps that are great like the WPCentral App are worth every penny.
    06-16-2013 11:56 PM
  21. rakesh1995's Avatar
    i think op is a child and dosent have a credit card. hey i am an Indian too and you cant get 3 burger any were at 1 $ at least not in India. and about droid games they are add supported. there will be sooooo many adds that will destroy your gaming also premium or add free version of angry bird cost 1.99$ which is twice price that we get
    06-17-2013 06:37 AM
  22. coldestsplash's Avatar
    Bullshyt, you bought a Lumia 820 at $400/24k inr but can't pay $1 for an app? doesn't matter how much your lunch costs but since you can afford a smartphone, you can also afford to spend some money on apps which developers deserve.


    Let me explain, Food is very cheap in India as its a developing country, developed countries have much higher priced food, rent, healthcare due to higher wages etc..
    He is exaggerating a bit, you get 2 veg burgers for $1 in India but most of the population(99%) eats local Indian food everyday and not the burgers,pasta,pizza etc. You can have local food lunch at $1 at small places or can spend as much as you want at expensive restaurants too if you have the budget.

    But all this doesn't mean that people can't spend on apps, someone who can afford a smartphone worth $200-$700 can easily afford to pay for apps. It is the thinking that has to change not the prices of apps. For example: My friend who owns an Audi A6 which costs $100k in India due to high taxes etc refuses to buy any app and prefers free version instead of paying $1. So, the mentality has to change and people educated that an app takes hardwork and time to make and deserves the money of the users.
    I'm also from India and i very much agree with you.
    06-17-2013 06:52 AM
  23. coldestsplash's Avatar
    i think op is a child and dosent have a credit card. hey i am an Indian too and you cant get 3 burger any were at 1 $ at least not in India. and about droid games they are add supported. there will be sooooo many adds that will destroy your gaming also premium or add free version of angry bird cost 1.99$ which is twice price that we get
    I agree, we can get 1 burger for 1$ but not 3 for sure, atleast not at places like mcdonalds, yeah you can get the indian version of burger i.e. vadapav but not burgers
    06-17-2013 06:56 AM
  24. z33dev33l's Avatar
    I'd pay .99 for an ad supported version just to give the developer of the app all of the money he deserves.
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    06-17-2013 06:57 AM
  25. rdubmu's Avatar
    I agree, we can get 1 burger for 1$ but not 3 for sure, atleast not at places like mcdonalds, yeah you can get the indian version of burger i.e. vadapav but not burgers
    Here in the United States, you can buy a McDonald's Burger for $1 , not a big mac or the new quarter pounder burgers, but the McDouble, or Cheeseburger. A regular Hamburger is less than $1
    It sounds like the you guys get it for about the same.
    06-17-2013 08:27 AM
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