01-20-2014 03:43 AM
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  1. Jazmac's Avatar
    I got the Folders app that was recently made available an installed it on my Lumia 920. I got it installed and figured I could work with it. I set up a folder to group about 6 camera apps I had on my phone together and did the same for a few GPS apps I had installed. So Saturday night, I went to the Cosmopolitan in Vegas for dinner at this place called the Wicket Spoon. Nice spot if you've never been. Anyway, out comes the Lumia 920 to snap some pics of my wife and son. I go to look the pics I snapped and my phone went black. Then I saw the Nokia logo. I said, seriously?? We walked on. Later I snapped a few pics and when I went to view them, same thing happened. Last thing I installed was Folders. Uninstalled. Random reboots stopped. Did you install Folders and get a reboot problem?
    01-13-2014 11:30 PM
  2. galw's Avatar
    Yes
    01-14-2014 08:20 AM
  3. Jazmac's Avatar
    Yes
    I'm not sure what it conflicts with on my phone or if it is just the app itself but its a weird bug.
    01-14-2014 08:24 AM
  4. androidtoWM's Avatar
    oh...i got a random reboot as well. you may be right. I was pretty shocked to see my phone reboot (just like old times with Android :) ). I've had this phone for over a year and this is the first time it had crashed and rebooted.
    01-14-2014 09:13 AM
  5. Fallakin's Avatar
    Been dealing with random reboots the past few days, trying to whittle down what it may be.

    Testing removing this now and monitoring. Will update later.
    unstoppablekem likes this.
    01-14-2014 10:20 AM
  6. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    This happened to me actually. I actually don't have any folders pinned, so I'm not sure if it is folders causing my phone to do this, but I took some pictures, went to post it, then my phone rebooted, and pictures deleted. They did save to Skydrive though.
    palandri likes this.
    01-14-2014 10:31 AM
  7. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    Been dealing with random reboots the past few days, trying to whittle down what it may be.

    Testing removing this now and monitoring. Will update later.
    Yeah, I'm going to too.
    palandri likes this.
    01-14-2014 10:33 AM
  8. Jazmac's Avatar
    oh...i got a random reboot as well. you may be right. I was pretty shocked to see my phone reboot (just like old times with Android :) ). I've had this phone for over a year and this is the first time it had crashed and rebooted.
    I have very few issues with my Lumia 920, especially in an app that would cause it to reset itself. This is the second app I know of that does cause my Lumia 920 grief. The other is Amazing Weather, the live tile killer. Soon as I uninstalled it, all live tile functionality returned.
    01-14-2014 10:56 AM
  9. a5cent's Avatar
    Start screen folders, as implemented here, are one of the most idiotic and useless features I've seen on WP. They break live tile functionality, so they are completely at odds with how the metro UI is intended to function... that is ugly, not to mention that using them is painfully slow. I too noticed reboots before uninstalling it shortly afterwards. IMHO start screen folders are one of those solutions people are familiar with from iOS and Android, which translates terribly to WP. Some grouping functionality would be helpful, but people lack the creativity to come up with a solution better suited to WP. Hope Nokia comes to their senses and drops this feature. Surely MS can come up with something better.
    01-14-2014 11:04 AM
  10. Windowlino's Avatar
    I agree: it is painful slow. But I don't see why this app breaks the live tile functionality. Small tiles often don't have any live content, so there is nothing against putting them "away". I'd like to see some kind if grouping feature in the all apps list. This would be great and indeed better than this solution.
    01-14-2014 11:09 AM
  11. a5cent's Avatar
    But I don't see why this app breaks the live tile functionality. Small tiles often don't have any live content.
    It is all about consistency. Sure, placing a small/dead tile into a folder seems unproblematic. You understand the ramifications and consequences, so you know when that makes sense, just like anyone else here at WPC. Many others will not. For them, this makes it far too easy to degrade the WP experience, of which live tiles are a central component. But don't think you'll be completely unaffected. This feature offers enough oppertunities for experienced users to trip themselves up as well... e.g. imagine what happens when an app update adds counter functionality to its small tile, making it a live tile. How many thousands of people will completely miss that, because they have the tile in a folder? You ALWAYS get inconsistent and inelegant behaviour like this, when adding features in a way that goes against the basic principles of how WP is intended to function. By itself, it is just one small inconsistency... do this enough times, and people will start calling your OS messy... that is where WP is currently headed. It is what I hope MS and Nokia working more closely together will help turn around.
    01-14-2014 11:36 AM
  12. Fallakin's Avatar
    I wasn't a fan of it myself. It looked clunky and out of place.

    Besides, most of my tiles are already grouped by type of service... which basically makes 'App Folders' useless.
    01-14-2014 01:46 PM
  13. odin09's Avatar
    I have been using folders and have not had any reboots on my 928.
    01-14-2014 01:56 PM
  14. Fallakin's Avatar
    24 hours later, no random reboots (which were happening around 10-11am est everyday).
    01-15-2014 11:35 AM
  15. Clodderes's Avatar
    Yes, it's slow to use. So, I use it mostly for grouping my apps. Which are by the way many.
    01-15-2014 06:50 PM
  16. Clodderes's Avatar
    I have very few issues with my Lumia 920, especially in an app that would cause it to reset itself. This is the second app I know of that does cause my Lumia 920 grief. The other is Amazing Weather, the live tile killer. Soon as I uninstalled it, all live tile functionality returned.
    I've experience broken live tile before. but not expecting it from Amazing weather. next time I experience it again i will try to remove the app
    Jazmac likes this.
    01-15-2014 06:52 PM
  17. horseybob's Avatar
    App folders has worked well for me on my 928. No lags, reboots, etc.
    01-15-2014 08:40 PM
  18. Jonah Travisano's Avatar
    My 920 never rebooked before I installed the Folders app...I took the app off my phone and the problem seems to have gone away. I like to try new ideas and so I thought I would give a try ,but honestly I think I wouldn't have had it on my phone for very long even without the random rebooks.
    01-15-2014 10:26 PM
  19. Jazmac's Avatar
    I've experience broken live tile before. but not expecting it from Amazing weather. next time I experience it again i will try to remove the app
    I didn't want to uninstall Amazing Weather. I figured, maybe because I was using the free version and bought it. Didn't make any difference. Live tiles never updated with that app installed. Not even Amazing Weather would update. Uninstalled it. All good again.

    App Folders makes your phone feel like android with this reboot stuff.
    01-15-2014 10:28 PM
  20. CGA1's Avatar
    Had it for almost a week on my 920, not a single reboot.
    01-16-2014 03:44 AM
  21. DJWhiteSquall's Avatar
    It's definitely something tied to the use of Folders and the camera, as the only time it reboots for me is when I use the camera and have the Photo Review option turned on, or I have Review turned off but try to look at my pictures from within the camera app itself.

    (Lumia 1020)
    01-16-2014 07:20 AM
  22. Jazmac's Avatar
    It's definitely something tied to the use of Folders and the camera, as the only time it reboots for me is when I use the camera and have the Photo Review option turned on, or I have Review turned off but try to look at my pictures from within the camera app itself.

    (Lumia 1020)
    This is my thought too. I wonder if it is the bunch of camera apps together in a folder causes it. I'm not going to reinstall Folders to see but it would be interesting to find this out.
    01-16-2014 08:18 AM
  23. Jarip's Avatar
    Lumia 920 and 1520 - both with App folder app - no single random reset by either one ... well, no camera apps in folders ...
    01-16-2014 10:55 AM
  24. Jazmac's Avatar
    Lumia 920 and 1520 - both with App folder app - no single random reset by either one ... well, no camera apps in folders ...
    Then do a little recon. Add a bunch of camera apps in a folder on your 920 and update the thread in a day or so.
    01-16-2014 11:47 AM
  25. Kage Maru's Avatar
    I was worried that my phone might be breaking down on me because it's been resetting itself about once a day lately. Now this thread has relieved me of those worries.

    Hopefully they patch the app if it is indeed causing this issue.
    Jazmac likes this.
    01-16-2014 02:19 PM
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